Mattmaz Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 Hi all, I'm just thinking out loud here really - I was wondering if anyone had considered or indeed already modelled Wolverhampton Station? It strikes me that with the current availability of fine AC traction & rolling stock in both 00 & N gauge it may now be a distinct possibility. The arrival of Dapol Catenary would be a bonus too. The era I would have in mind would be the late 80s/early 90s, when an Intercity train from Euston would stop & lose it's AC traction in favour of a 47 to haul it through to Shrewsbury & beyond. I used to travel this journey quite a lot to & from Wellington. If I recall correctly there were class 310 EMUs which terminated in the bay platforms to the south of the station, and plenty of DMU stock - both the new (at the time!) sprinters, and older (The type escapes me). Then there were plenty of through trains from Euston too which carried on to Glasgow etc. In fact, the more I type, the more I'm tempted to start modelling it myself! Any thoughts folks? Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest baldrick25 Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 Model in the Low Level station when it was still just about in operation , and you have a huge variety of traction and movements on two levels, one electrified , one not.. Just a thought Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 Well, if you have the space...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve K Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 Model in the Low Level station when it was still just about in operation ... Or even just the frontage as it now appears: Just add weeds to suit your chosen era! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldfield_Park Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 You'd have a chance to run a 304 into the south bay as well. The ran up from New Street with some regularity. I should think it would make for a great model, though personally I would shift the timescale back to the late 70s/early 80s so that I could have whole rakes of Mk1s on the inter-regionals and a greater variety of AC electrics. Could also find room for a pair of 25s on a 'Summer Saturday' run to Aberystwyth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 I did consider Wolverhampton a few years ago, but as always it never happened. I got as far as looking at planning portal plans to see what would fit.Its certainly possible, the curve of the plan almost lends itself to a layout. cheers Shane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted March 4, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4, 2011 You'd have a chance to run a 304 into the south bay as well. The ran up from New Street with some regularity. I should think it would make for a great model, though personally I would shift the timescale back to the late 70s/early 80s so that I could have whole rakes of Mk1s on the inter-regionals and a greater variety of AC electrics. Could also find room for a pair of 25s on a 'Summer Saturday' run to Aberystwyth. The South bay was originally part of the Parcels Depot. It was not signalled for passenger use, but occasionally was used unofficially. I don't know when it became a passenger platform, but it would have been after Parcels traffic ended. Mill St sidings were not trapped against the Parcels siding. These were taken out under scheme plan BS1/83, so not before 1983. The Signalling Record Society has a copy of scheme plan NW880017 entitled Wolverhampton PSB - Upgrading of Bay Platform and provision of Set Back move from WN117 to WN109. This would indicate that the work was not done before 1988 at the earliest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_long Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Does any one know how the track layout was before the centre siding was lifted between plats 1&2 and before plat 4 was built. May be I should just sat in its 80s guise. What I'm planning is a bitsa small layout of just one end of the station, with current preference being the north (or should it be west?) end, but I can't remember how/where the through siding connected to the mains. Did the Euston emus make it into platform 1 or 3 or just in the south (east) bay post siding closure? They must have when the parcels depot was still open if the signalling didn't allow right? 304s would have come through on Manch services wouldn't they? Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium steam-driven boy Posted July 28, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2013 Hi, Some rather nice looking work underway on this topic Regards, Gerry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_long Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Yeah Mark is doing a sterling job on low level, but I'm interested in high level. Thanks Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted July 28, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2013 Does any one know how the track layout was before the centre siding was lifted between plats 1&2 and before plat 4 was built. May be I should just sat in its 80s guise. What I'm planning is a bitsa small layout of just one end of the station, with current preference being the north (or should it be west?) end, but I can't remember how/where the through siding connected to the mains. Did the Euston emus make it into platform 1 or 3 or just in the south (east) bay post siding closure? They must have when the parcels depot was still open if the signalling didn't allow right? 304s would have come through on Manch services wouldn't they? Regards I think some of the plans I have for Low Level include a bit of the "other" station, I'll dig them out and have a look. There might also be something in "Rail Centres: Wolverhampton" which (IIRC) has a chapter on the rebuilding of High Level. From memory the point for the middle road was roughly at the end of platform 1. Mid-80s I think 304s were running through on Manchester-Walsall (via BNS) services. edit: to add platforms 1 and 2 were bi-directional so terminating services could have used either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted July 28, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2013 I thought these photos might be of interest, In both cases the point at the B'ham end of the loop is beneath the first vehicle, I think Here is the other end of the station 90007 was there for driver training I think No model of Wolverhampton would be complete without one of the waterproofed 08s. 08901 seemed to always be there: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_long Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Thanks Mark Just trying to see if that west end/Shrewsbury end would compress slightly to fit the scalefour standard gauge workbench challenge. The 2 loco sidings, the 2 bay lines and less complicated s&c at that end lend themselves better to a bitsa layout than the brum end I think. Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted July 28, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 28, 2013 Hi Dave There are details of the original signalling notice 745G covering the changes at Wolverhampton from Saturday 14th August to Monday 16th August, 1965 here http://www.signallingnotices.org.uk/notices_detail.php?n_id=2195#scans. It has scans of the layout, http://www.signallingnotices.org.uk/scans/2195/diagram%20b.pdf is the one covering the station, also http://www.signallingnotices.org.uk/scans/2195/text.pdf gives the narrative, signal profiles and list of routes for controlled signals. There was a change at the Stafford end fairly early on as road labelled 'Shed' disappeared and the bay became a passenger platform with WN76 as a 3-aspect main signal. This always had a standage problem with long u/f DMUs as with a 3-car set the driver couldn't see the signal. The present platform on the area often referred to as the 'Banana Yard' was built to get over this. Eric . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_long Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Eric Thanks for posting those links, very informative. Just need to workout if I can fit the Stafford end in to 4'8 1/2"s! God knows what I'll need to sort out decent fiddle yards! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977joey Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Did this layout made it to the building stage? Would love to see it done... Cheers, Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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