G-BOAF Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Like the models. BUT – they don’t have high-intensity lights on (obviously non-working like all the lights on the 20). Bachmann have added these to the tooling on recent models were appropriate, so strange omission, and a real pitty. Like 20189, lovely livery (although why they painted it from the very high quality green I don’t know). If when I have the cash these are still available, I may bag one. Also hauled by it in May! Don’t like 20227 paint job. Yes it’s a very accurate representation of the real thing but what were they thinking with the roundel, its totally wrong (on the prototype and model), horridly out of proportion. The problem is it makes the whole livery, which doesn’t’ suite the 20 anyway, even worse! Personal opinion. More pics from anyone? Like the models. BUT – they don’t have high-intensity lights on (obviously non-working like all the lights on the 20). Bachmann have added these to the tooling on recent models were appropriate, so strange omission, and a real pitty. Like 20189, lovely livery (although why they painted it from the very high quality green I don’t know). If when I have the cash these are still available, I may bag one. Also hauled by it in May! Don’t like 20227 paint job. Yes it’s a very accurate representation of the real thing but what were they thinking with the roundel, its totally wrong (on the prototype and model), horridly out of proportion, both bar and circle are not thick enough, and the typeface looks a bit small (again proportionally) . The problem is it makes the whole livery, which doesn’t’ suite the 20 anyway, even worse! Personal opinion. More pics from anyone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIAM Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Does anybody know how many models these have been 'limited' to? Answered my own question by emailing LT shop. 504 of each model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_l_jones Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) Answered my own question by emailing LT shop. 504 of each model. So it's an unofficial Limited Edition then...!! Edited November 20, 2013 by martin_l_jones Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purley Oaks Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Drat! Better get my order in sooner or it'll be too late Mal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Isn't 504 the normal Bachmann batch size? Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy P Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Bachmann have their display stand at Swanage this weekend for the Diesel Gala, and in their cabinet was this.... Swanage Diesel Gala 2013 171a.jpg Like the models. BUT – they don’t have high-intensity lights on (obviously non-working like all the lights on the 20). Bachmann have added these to the tooling on recent models were appropriate, so strange omission, and a real pitty. Like 20189, lovely livery (although why they painted it from the very high quality green I don’t know). If when I have the cash these are still available, I may bag one. Also hauled by it in May! Don’t like 20227 paint job. Yes it’s a very accurate representation of the real thing but what were they thinking with the roundel, its totally wrong (on the prototype and model), horridly out of proportion. The problem is it makes the whole livery, which doesn’t’ suite the 20 anyway, even worse! Personal opinion. More pics from anyone? A bit of a strange one this. Bachmann's original "mock-up" ( Swanage Diesel Gala 2013 171a.jpg ) had the underground roundel better proportioned than the real one. The model comes out accurate but looking wrong. Had they stuck with their original plan it would have looked better but would have been incorrect. A difficult call perhaps.Maybe Bachmann should have stuck to their guns and offered a couple of tins of paint to match the loco with the model. then everyone would be happy. These things are not my usual cup of tea but I have the advantage of having a 20 year old son who buys the things I don't. So LT twins for him this Christmas and LMS twins for me. We know were his Mum has hidden them! RP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lochnagar Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 504 is the minimum production quantity of any Bachmann loco. So they won't be around long I'm guessing. Still not received mine, can't get in touch with the shop either after many calls. At the risk of being a moaning so and so, I'm not impressed with LT museum shop at all, this whole order has been a pain in the rear end for me unfortunately! Have to keep trying in the hope someone picks up the phone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petee19 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 I picked up both of these models today from the LTM at Covent Garden,they appeared to have a good stock of them,I. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tetsudofan Posted December 1, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2013 As I understand it from the very nice lady from the LT Museum who phoned me this morning the models will not be appearing in the Museum Shop until later this month. I was hoping to pop into the museum on Wednesday (on my way to Crewe!!) to collect my models but was told that's a no go so my models will be waiting for me at the Museum Shop for my next visit to London on November 30. Now to order a couple of Cl.20 sound decoders...... Keith Popped into the LT Museum this morning, told them that they had a couple of locos for me under the counter and bingo, there they were all labled up and ready for collection. Just as promised. The saving on postage more-or-less covered my £10.65 Web Super OffPeak return ticket from Folkestone . Had a word with the shop manager about future releases and, with a smile on his face, he said expect a "significant" announcement........ On the way up to London saw the white LT Map Cl.66 parked in one of the middle roads at Tonbridge Station - it looked well and truly grotty, well weather-stained. Keith 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petee19 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Popped into the LT Museum this morning, told them that they had a couple of locos for me under the counter and bingo, there they were all labled up and ready for collection. Just as promised. The saving on postage more-or-less covered my £10.65 Web Super OffPeak return ticket from Folkestone . Had a word with the shop manager about future releases and, with a smile on his face, he said expect a "significant" announcement........ On the way up to London saw the white LT Map Cl.66 parked in one of the middle roads at Tonbridge Station - it looked well and truly grotty, well weather-stained. Keith Could 66721 be the next release from the LTM,my guess is it probably will be.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tetsudofan Posted December 1, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2013 Could 66721 be the next release from the LTM,my guess is it probably will be.. Somehow I would not put the release of 66721 in the "significant" category..... Having seen the real thing in the flesh did not think much of it - don't think I would buy one. However some Bachmann-motored EFE underground stock, some proper coaches for Sarah Siddons or even a Metropolitan steamie I would classify as "significant" in my books . Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted August 26, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 26, 2016 Hi all, I have just found this thread. When these models were released I didn't buy either of them. Does anyone have 20189 and/or 20227 as Limited Editions complete with certificates for sale? I would prefer them to be brand new and unused. If so please could you message me. Thank you very much in advance. Kind Regards, Danny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium amwells Posted August 26, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 26, 2016 I could be wrong but I'm not sure that they came with certificates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted August 26, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 26, 2016 I could be wrong but I'm not sure that they came with certificates. Thank you very much for letting me know. I just assumed that they did. If they don't then it's not applicable in my above post. I would just like the Limited Edition certificates if they came with them. Thank you very much in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairburn Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 S & J Models has 20 189 for sale. http://www.sandjmodelrailways.co.uk/90270/info.php?p=3&pno=2 I've no link with them, but they've always got plenty of stock listed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted August 26, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 26, 2016 S & J Models has 20 189 for sale. http://www.sandjmodelrailways.co.uk/90270/info.php?p=3&pno=2 I've no link with them, but they've always got plenty of stock listed. Hi, Thank you very much for letting me know. I have just bought 20189. Thank you very much for telling me. I really appreciate it. Kind Regards, Danny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted August 27, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 27, 2016 Hi all, Is anyone selling a brand new and unused Limited Edition 20227 by the London Transport Museum? If so then please could you message me. Thank you very much in advance. Kind Regards, Danny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted August 27, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 27, 2016 (edited) You'll be lucky! I've been after it for ages to go with 20189, never bought it when it was released and now selling at a premium on the likes of eBay As it happens i was in s and j yesterday morning and saw 189 on the shelf, of course had a look to see if it was the White one which unfortunatly it wasnt, I've paired mine up with a gbrf one for now Edited August 27, 2016 by big jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Apart from the Swanage 2013 gala and one or two light engine moves, I don't think 189/227 were paired that often, especially not on LU metals where the majority (all?) of their work was solo. They've worked together regularly on LU metals in the past but this was when 227 was in Railfreight and 189 in Green. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted August 28, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 28, 2016 You'll be lucky! I've been after it for ages to go with 20189, never bought it when it was released and now selling at a premium on the likes of eBay As it happens i was in s and j yesterday morning and saw 189 on the shelf, of course had a look to see if it was the White one which unfortunatly it wasnt, I've paired mine up with a gbrf one for now I'm thinking the same Jim. It seems to be that 20189 appears for sale sometimes but 20227 doesn't. I think I saw a 20227 model on Ebay for sale a few months ago but I reckon that's the only one I have seen for sale so far this year. I'm thinking of buying 20118 to go with 20189 for the time been. I knew that I should have bought these two when they were available at LTM for less than £100 each. I'm wanting to acquire them now more so because 20142 has received a new livery which I'm sure LTM will commission Bachmann to produce. It would be good to have all three. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted August 28, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 28, 2016 Apart from the Swanage 2013 gala and one or two light engine moves, I don't think 189/227 were paired that often, especially not on LU metals where the majority (all?) of their work was solo. They've worked together regularly on LU metals in the past but this was when 227 was in Railfreight and 189 in Green. I have been thinking the same. Looking at some photos of Flickr their aren't that many photos of 189 and 227 paired up together. It would be nice to acquire both models and 20142 in it's new livery which I am sure LTM will commission Bachmann to produce at some stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spet0114 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Hi all, Is anyone selling a brand new and unused Limited Edition 20227 by the London Transport Museum? If so then please could you message me. Thank you very much in advance. Kind Regards, Danny. One currently on eBay. Yours for 200 notes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSWRfan Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Hattons 'Sale':- Class 20 20189 in London Transport Red - Limited Edition for London Transport Museum - Pre-owned - weathered - gears slip at lower speeds - missing cab windows Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted February 5, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 5, 2017 Hattons 'Sale':- Class 20 20189 in London Transport Red - Limited Edition for London Transport Museum - Pre-owned - weathered - gears slip at lower speeds - missing cab windows Weathered?!? When was it not kept clean? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Hattons 'Sale':- Class 20 20189 in London Transport Red - Limited Edition for London Transport Museum - Pre-owned - weathered - gears slip at lower speeds - missing cab windows Sounds like a pile of junk -no doubt it'll be on at some crazy price Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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