milocomarty Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Start with a tappered dowel with a peice of 1.5mm floristwire stuck in the top... after that twistin and turning 0.6mm floristwire around the top Drill holes in the wooden trunk sticking in some .6mm floristwire and secure them with CA. Cut the loops open and arrange them.Quick coat of primer with a rattlecan.. Give the treetop a coat with a mixture of 50% white glue / 25% wallsealant / 25% RAL 8022 colored latex wallpaint and a coat with MDF sawdust with a fine sieve. Reoeat this step a few times untill the transition between the wireframe and the dowel is almost unseeable Just play around a bit untill it looks like the tree you want it to look like.. Tried a loblolly pine here.. Now they are ready for fibers. Explain these steps later.. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milocomarty Posted March 25, 2015 Author Share Posted March 25, 2015 Quick update on pinetree building. After the frames are ready it's time for some Noch 12mm fibers. Sprayglue from below, fibers with the grassmaster when fibers are added I give them a quick blow with compressed air. Sprayglue added from below and a coat of 6mm fibers.. repeat the first steps and add a final layer of 2mm fibers.. and again blow wiith compressed air from the top. Done with the fibers time for a quick spray with mud brown and olive drab camo paint from a can.. Now it's time for the WS green grass fine turf, T46 if I'm right. Sprayglue added from below and several layers of fine turf added. Not to much at once just build up.. Hope you like this SBS.. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milocomarty Posted March 25, 2015 Author Share Posted March 25, 2015 Well lets start a SBS on the basics.. Twisting trees with floral wire Needed : - 0.6mm floral wire - 1.5mm floral wire - needle nose pliers - cutting pliers - ACC and accelerator - rattlecan primer Basic start with a core wire 1.5mm thick here you start twistin a 0.6mm wire around.. make shure you leave a short groundpin free.. secure the first twisted wire with ACC.. now the fun of twistin and turning begins..turn wire arond the core and determine where your first branch will be , twist another wire anround the other and on you go. Make loops on places where you like your branches... I do twist a couple of loops on the top and secure only the top with ACC.. Now it's time to cut open the loops, as you see a basic tree structure is already there.. In the next step we twist in additional wires to make a more complex branch structure.. closer look.. Know your tree frame is ready for a coat with primer, I do use the cheapest rattlecan primer I can find.. This makes the tree frame ready for the next step, bark..I'll show that in part 2.. Just a short note, when you look at trees you mostly see them grouped. A couple of trees of the same kind grouped together. I do already think about that in this early stage.. looking at this I did think it needs at least one short tree more..so I cut a core wire and placed it.. when I do start adding wire and branches I already can determine were the need to be.. That's it for now, more to follow.. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantheakis Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Excellent! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milocomarty Posted March 25, 2015 Author Share Posted March 25, 2015 Good idea to walk in forrests when you like to model trees. Just take a look at mother nature !! For the next step Needed : - Woodglue (not shure if you call it yellow or white glue but it needs to be the one that will not dry water resistant or a slow drying with a longer open time) - Latex wallpaint in a dark brown color (I use RAL 8019) - Acrylic drywall sealer (not shure what the name over the pond is, dries clear and is acrylic based) - MDF sawdust - Fine kitchensieve First we make the treemix made out of 1/2 part woodglue, 1/4th latex wallpaint thinned with the wallsealant (about 1/4th to).. Start with the primed treeframes, most of the time I do have a couple of 10 made for this step, and cover the trunk and branches with the treemix but make shure you only do the twisted parts.. and add the MDF sawdust wit the fine kitchensieve.. Let it dry for a while. To thicken your trunk or branches repeat the step on the parts you like more volume.. Repeat these steps until you're satisfied about the look of your tree I do use the sawdust coming straight from my sawing machine, has fine parts but also coarser particels..don't throw them away but keep them in a seperate container. I use them on the lower parts, most of the time the most coarse part of the trunk.. The sawdust, fine sieved.. coarse.. just the gluemix on the lower part of the trunk.. coarser sawdust added.. the final step for today is covering the whole tree with the gluemix... Depending on what kinda tree you model you can start painting after this coat dries, for the birchtrees I like to model there will be a step more wich I will show in a follow up.. Modeling birch trees for the final coat on the trunk and branches.. Needed: - flexible jointfiller (acrylic, like the DAP http://www.dap.com/product_details.aspx?BrandID=139&SubcatID=23) - acrylic paint like a titanium buff dark. First start with a blob of paint and a blob of jointfiller, we use the off white titanium buff dark to tone down the white of the jointfiller.. I use a paletknive to mix it and again a small pointed brush to add the paste to the treetrunk . Make shure you still leave the outer wires uncovered, would look like this when your done.. When this paste dries it leaves you the opportunity to smoothen it with a wet brush, or even add more structure with any tool you like, use a x-acto #11 or any other tool.. Did smoothen a bit here... As most of you know drying times are our worst enemy, so I covered a couple and start painting them tomorrow... Last step for the frames, weapons of choise.. - stiff pighair brush - brushes with a funny tip out of somekinda rubber, pointed and flat.. - latex wallpaint RAL 7022 first of all I do paint the lower part of the trunk, and start drybrushing the rest of the trunk and branches with the umbergrey wallpaint using this stiff brush. Now I take the funny ones, adding stips and stripes on the trunk... that's all, time for a testfit on the layout.. with another colormode on the Nikon.. Next update about the foliage.. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milocomarty Posted March 25, 2015 Author Share Posted March 25, 2015 Well after all these inbetweens let us get on with the SBS on the trees. Adding finer branches and foliage.. Needed: Static device like the Noch grassmaster 12mm fibers 6mm fibers 2mm fibers Rattlecan of spraypaint in a brown, brownish/green color Turf like material, used Polak Purex fine light green on this one Leaves I used Polak coarse leaves aspen green Rattlecan flat clearcoat First we start with adding some sprayglue on the outside of the wire branches. Try not to spray the trunk. Take the grassmaster loaded with 12mm fibers and shoot them onto the tree. You can clip the groundlead to the groundpin but I didn't.. depending on the tree you model, how dense the foliage must be shoot a second time with the 12mm, remember always sprayglu on the outside.. repeat this step using 6mm fibers.. repeat this step if it's needed, better go to low on the fibers the first time and add a second layer.. Now the final step in adding fibers, using 2mm to achieve the finest branches. Again sprayglue on the outside and add the fibers with a fine sieve.. Spraypaint time, just try to spraypaint the fibers and not the painted trunk.. Let it dry a short time. Than add sprayglue again on the outside and use a sieve to sprinkle on the turf.. Repeat this step using leaves.. Final a shot of clearcoat, also a rattlecan..and your tree is ready for your layout.. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tase Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Thats some mighty fine work there. Thanks for sharing the tips. I've just ordered a load of the component parts so that I can make my own trees following your instructions. I'll post my progress in du course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRat Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Excellent modelling with great easy to follow steps! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 The best trees I've ever seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
altone Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Looks like quite a lot of work, but they do look excellent. So now I have to add giving this a go to my workbench list. Nice easy instructions too Cheers Gerry C 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted March 26, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 26, 2015 The best trees I've ever seen. This work, if any, warrants a "me too" post. I've seen some fantastic trees on here but these take some beating. Those close-ups of the pines in particular... And very instructive and useful guide too, thanks a lot. Oh, and just to be sure - they are 7mm scale right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milocomarty Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 Thanks gentlemen ! Yes it's 7mm or 1:48 I model, but a lot of people modeling tend to forget how big trees are. Pine trees grow till 65 meter length wich would be over 1 meter in 7mm.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterkern23 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Thanks for posting this info. These trees look so lovely and detailed. Will suit my needs down to the ground! I have most of the components already so guess what I'm doing tonight? Thanks again you're a legend! Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley West Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I can only agree with everything that's been said above. Those trees are truly superb and as Allan Downes above says (praise indeed) they are the best and most convincing trees I've ever seen too. Very helpful and clear instructions too! Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted March 27, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2015 Superb, nothing more to say really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milocomarty Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 For now I shal try to explain a bit and the materials I use...finished a small piece tonight.. the darker bushes are done with Silflor / Mininatur bodendecker immergrun hell...just glued inbetween and on the grasfibers with UHU alleskleber, guess for you Beacon 3in1.. Low growing shrubbs with Wooly fibers, looks like the gardenpond or WS poly fiber, cut to small pieces draped on the bottom and fixed with some puffs of sprayglue..sprinkled some green scatter on it from the modeltree shop in the UK..it's sponge scatter..fixed again with some small puffs of spray glue..the darker green weeds, Mininatur schachtelhalme [/url] Bushes are all from my own Martin Welberg brand, used 20mm and 30mm olive, light green and white, couple of Mininatur bodendecker immergrun glued inbetween. To place and set my bushes just use a drop of hotglue.. Smaller weeds are done by just tip some glue on top of the grassfibers and blow some WS fine turf into the wet glue with a puffer bottle.. Use these kinda applicators for the glue, one filled with UHU alleskleber, the others with 2 kinds of school glue.. Thats all folks !! These are the kinda tricks and techniques I explain in my static grass workshops.. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Impressive work!!! Another follower here... cheers neil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milocomarty Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 Almost done with the low growing shrubs and bushes on the hill, just the top needs to be done. Also made a start at the back of Mikes..again I vary with my own bushes, Mininatur /Silflor stuff, various fibers sprinkled with ground scatter and fine turfs. Use Mininatur /Silflor material what normaly would be used on trees.. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Almost done with the low growing shrubs and bushes on the hill, just the top needs to be done. Also made a start at the back of Mikes..again I vary with my own bushes, Mininatur /Silflor stuff, various fibers sprinkled with ground scatter and fine turfs. Use Mininatur /Silflor material what normaly would be used on trees.. Hi,I've tried something similar a few months back in 4mm, not too happy with them and I reckon a bit more 'puff' from above is needed to get the same result as you pines which are really excellent. I've been pondering over a way to get the frons? To hang down in the way you've achieved. I'll give your way a try I think. The trunks on mine are almost produced in a similar vein and as I will need quite a few I've found it to be a better method to produce them in quantity. My first one will find a place towards the rear I think ! Other trees will be worked upon...... Happy modelling, I won't pine too much 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milocomarty Posted April 12, 2015 Author Share Posted April 12, 2015 Had fun today finishing a couple of parts on the low growing shrubs on Nolans Wharf.. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milocomarty Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 Couple of shots from greens in progress. Repositioned a couple of trees.. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurits71 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Getting better and better Martin. ( goed gedaan jochie sorry little sided line ) M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 More very impressive stuff... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milocomarty Posted April 19, 2015 Author Share Posted April 19, 2015 Thanks !! Its treetime again, try to model some white pines. Use different sizes softwood dowels, wire and Vallejo modeling paste..couple of rough ones on my messy workbench, waterfronts ok to store the almost done..and a couple of trunk shots.. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peak experience Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 These are the finest examples of flora I've seen on a model. Superb 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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