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On 04/09/2023 at 20:04, Peter Kazmierczak said:

Thanks; thought as much. Now to find a suitable small ex-MR example.. 

 

They don't come much smaller than Ingleton, though it wasn't free-standing, being adjacent to the engine shed:

 

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[Embedded link to catalogue thumbnail of MRSC 61679.]

 

For the next size up, go to Malvern Wells:

 

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[Embedded link to catalogue thumbnail of MRSC 63051.]

 

If you want one that looks bigger but you've only got a narrow space, how about Northampton shed?

 

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[Embedded link to catalogue thumbnail of MRSC 63054.]

 

Four panels wide by five long (16 ft x 20 ft) and two or three panels deep (6 ft or 9ft) seems to be a common size; the one at Blea Moor exemplifies the type and also has a chimney (at the other end to this photo) for added character:

 

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[embedded link to catalogue thumbnail of MRSC 6533.]

 

See also MRSC 77-13556 for a useful drawing showing how the tank was built; also showing that the official term for the support structure was "tank house".

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3 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

 

They don't come much smaller than Ingleton, though it wasn't free-standing, being adjacent to the engine shed:

 

61679.jpg

 

[Embedded link to catalogue thumbnail of MRSC 61679.]

 

For the next size up, go to Malvern Wells:

 

63051.jpg

 

[Embedded link to catalogue thumbnail of MRSC 63051.]

 

If you want one that looks bigger but you've only got a narrow space, how about Northampton shed?

 

63054.jpg

 

[Embedded link to catalogue thumbnail of MRSC 63054.]

 

Four panels wide by five long (16 ft x 20 ft) and two or three panels deep (6 ft or 9ft) seems to be a common size; the one at Blea Moor exemplifies the type and also has a chimney (at the other end to this photo) for added character:

 

65343.jpg

 

[embedded link to catalogue thumbnail of MRSC 6533.]

 

See also MRSC 77-13556 for a useful drawing showing how the tank was built; also showing that the official term for the support structure was "tank house".

 

Ingleton is a bit Airfix kit style. Although looks wooden.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Peter Kazmierczak said:

Just thought; is the top of the tank open so will I have to model the water in it too?

 

That's a bit of a vexed question - very few photos of Midland water tanks taken from above! 

 

This photo taken in 1888 during rebuilding work at Bradford Market Street is the clearest I know and shows a completely open tank:

 

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[Embedded link to catalogue image of MRSC 61853.]

 

But many photos show railings round at least part of the top of the tanks, suggesting at least a walkway. The drawing I linked to above shows the tank open. I'm beginning to suspect that a boardwalk was added to many tanks at some stage, maybe early 20th century. But in general these tanks were not completely covered over.

 

2 minutes ago, KingEdwardII said:

Unlikely unless the designer was a nature lover and wanted a garden pond. The wildlife you would get in an open topped tank would not go down well in the average boiler.

 

I think that fails to take into account the frequency with which the water was changed - a tank the size of the Blea Moor one held about five or six tenders-full of water, so the water might be completely changed in less than a day. These weren't reservoirs but header tanks, as was mentioned above. 

 

Clearly, since the Midland ones were more-or-less completely open, this wan't in fact a problem. 

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42 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said:

I always thought they were covered to stop evaporation and dead birds getting in there. GWR ones certainly were.

 

Again, the rate at which the water was changed probably meant evaporation was insignificant - and they were continuously topped-up, of course. as for dead birds, that's why there's the ladder: a check now and again for extraneous matter in the tank!

 

Evidently the GWR applied some different logic but that's usual.

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1 hour ago, Peter Kazmierczak said:

Does anyone have a photo of the top of an ex-MR water tank?  

 

True, that one at Bradford is not ex-Midland but Midland - there were probably changes as the years went by.

 

I wonder, is there any information on the website about the conversion of Settle water tower to a house?

 

https://settlestationwatertower.blogspot.com/

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I am told that Crofton Pumping Station was kept in operation despite the Kennett and Avon canal falling into disuse because the supply for the water column at Devises came from the canal.

 

I might have thought that connecting it to the town supply might have been cheaper.

 

Interestingly enough Minehead was only to be used In Extremis because water came from the town supply while the main supply was at Williton & came from the river.

 

Post WW1 with the line already losing money the Somerset and Dorset issued instructions as to where locos should be watered on cost grounds

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On 05/09/2023 at 08:16, stewartingram said:

Cambridge station/locoshed was (I'm told) fed by water from Chesterton Junction - the present Cambridge North station site. That must be at least a couple of miles away.

It’s about 2 and 3/4 miles! I know this as I cycle it most days! 
It does make sense as that’s the closest the railway is to the river in Cambridge,  I’ll have a chat with my friends at the tech museum next time I see them. 

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On 06/09/2023 at 13:59, Compound2632 said:
  On 06/09/2023 at 13:13, Steamport Southport said:

I always thought they were covered to stop evaporation and dead birds getting in there. GWR ones certainly were.

I've seen references in footplatemen's recollections that on very hot days, some cleaners were want to go  for a swim  in the  tanks. Maybe that's why the GW roofed them in.  😉

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3 hours ago, Matt37268 said:

It’s about 2 and 3/4 miles! I know this as I cycle it most days! 
It does make sense as that’s the closest the railway is to the river in Cambridge,  I’ll have a chat with my friends at the tech museum next time I see them. 

In the Y of Chesterton Junction there were some railway houses, and a pumphouse (or whatever), which is where the water was (I'm told) pumped along the railway to the station.

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According to Ken Cook, GWR Works manager in the 40s, his predecessor, Hannington, was known to swim in a water tank from time to time. Apparently he also took a cold bath each morning in a pond in his garden, breaking the ice if necessary! In the end his love of water was his undoing as one day he dived head first into a 5 foot deep swimming pool at his daughter's school and fatally hit his head on the bottom.

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