Very good result it is too. I've a pair of green uns.I'll probalbe follow your advice.

That's a definite and noticeable improvement If you get some 40 link/inch chain let me know, I've been trying to find somewhere in the UK with it in stock for AGES!

David, It is quite simple - just need to disconnect the supply wires red and black from the PCB then feed it through after. I did one at a time so that I could check which way to reconnect them back to the PCB afterwards. And check that the driveshaft reengages with the motor... not too fiddly, but takes a bit of practice if you've not done it before.

Above all... give it a go!B)

James... me too! Jon (43179) got some from somewhere.. and you can get it in the US (see his blog about his 37), but shipping is cost prohibitive. When I find some (if) I'll get plenty... I can always send you some. Perhaps you could keep an eye out too!

Ta, Jon

The Deltic looks much improved! Did you realign the bogie sideframes too?

For fine chain try craft stores for fine jewelary chain; my mum deals with jewelary at craft fairs and got me some rather fine chain which I've used on my class 37s -

Chain from these soruces doesn't seem to attract the odd premimum which chain from model suppliers seems to have.

Thanks James. I did try one jewelary chop - but will continue looking.

Didn't alter the sideframes no... I've missed something there have I. I realise that 37 bogies need some thinning, but didn't think the 55 ones looked too bad... although they should be the same (cast vs fabricated and steps asides)... and same for the 50s. They would benefit from bteer brake cylinders though - as on the Hornby 50s.

Anyway, thanks for commenting and the suggestion

On the only Deltic I've done the sideframe benefitted from being moved in slightly and raised about 0,5 mm - they're the same design as the 37 frames. The newer class 37 frames just need narrowing - these are a new design - the ones from the all axle drive locos.

With the drop it won't be noticable but this does over emphasise the gap between the body and bogies. The main thing is that your Deltic looks heavy like a 100 ton plus loco sitting right down on its underpinngs

Enterprising western, thanks for the pointer - just ordered the last packed of 12". They'll be getting more in in September.

Hi Jon

I suspect you may have gone the wrong way here. I havent done a deltic but assuming the bogies are the same as the earlt 37's the loco doesnt sit too low on its bogies, rather the bogie side frames sit too low agains the wheels - the axleboxes certainly dont line up with the axles

This picture shows my 37 with no other modification than to move the sideframes up

HTH

Jim

Jim, from my own experience of Deltics I actually think you need to do both to the Bachmann model - then you can replicate the very small gap between the body and bogies.

Hi Jim and James... oh dear - sounds like I';m headed for a Harry Enfield Tim nice but dim sketch.

I think that the bogies are ok - axle boxes do seem to line up with axles.... but will check again later to see if they could be moved up a smudge.

Thanks for the continued interest and debate;).

Jon, it's only a small mis-alignment.

You can just see it in this view I think - it's less than 0,5 mm but it is there. It's one of those things which is hard to spot, though it may not look quite right; but once you see it, it sticks out like a sore thumb.

Have a closer look; if you decide to realign them it'll allow you to really reduce the gap between body and bogie frames.

James, I'll look at athe model. I know this photo makes them look misaligned, but the camera was sat on the same surface as the loco, so the lense centre was about level with the door step... so persepctive, combined with the OO gauging, may have made this look worse that it is...

Here's another photo, taken prior to bogie height adjustment. In it you can see the tyre and I think that it's central on the axle box. But as I said.., I 'll check.

Couldn't manage to upload a picture to this reply (?), so here's a link http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php/gallery/image/20072-tulyar/

Thanks again James.... it's always good to continue with the education.

James,

I didn't manage to get any photos... but... I looked closely at the bogies, and those on my 37. I can see that on the 37, there is a slight difference in the centring of the axles/axlebox covers. I found the best way to view this was by latying the loco on its side and looking straight down and back - in onto the bogies so that you can see the wheel disks and centre, behind the bogie... and by doing this, it is clear to see the slight lack of alignment. It is only slight ... less than a millimetre... but yes, it's there. Same check on 55s... different result. On the two I checked, the bogies seemed about right. The leading axle on one was slightly misaligned, but the rest seemed ok, so there is a slight difference between the 55 and 37. The 37 I have is an 8pin chassis... the 55s checked were a 8pin and a 21 pin. I have others to check.

I would suggest looking at the model in each case and deciding what to do.

Getting the look of 50+ tons on each bogie needs a bit of squishing down. Hope I've achieved it.

Will post a couple of more pictures once I've got some brake chains and worked out how to fit them.

Chain arrived today from P & H Models. Excellent. Got some 0.2mm wire to attach it too (coincidentally on way home). Will try tonight and post some results once some paint's been applied:)