Novel way of planning out tree locations Pete!

The balls range up to 45mm in diameter, and there are a few which reminded me of Cadbury's creme eggs...which unfortunately, I can't find here

I wouldn't worry too much about not being able to find those, you'll just get goo everywhere when you insert the cocktail stick in the bottom!

Tom.

Is this the surreal version?

Pete,

Don't forget that you'll need to clean the track from time to time, so don't put trees where you'll curse them later!

David

are you sure 2 weeks of in laws hasn't made you barmy ?

Those' trees' made of paper/polystyrene are totally surreal - like something out of the 60s series 'The Prisoner' gone mad!But I get where you're coming from in terms of mapping out before you commit.Always good to see an update on Moorswater

Thanks Mark...I am too young to remember The Prisoner though...

Novel way of planning out tree locations Pete!I wouldn't worry too much about not being able to find those, you'll just get goo everywhere when you insert the cocktail stick in the bottom!

Thanks Tom - I normally scoop out the fondant with a small spoon though first...incredibly sickly...and perhaps good to get away from them.

Is this the surreal version?

Fish...

Looking good Pete, it reminds me of Mark's winter scenes on Whitney. Keep up the momentum, it's almost there.

Thanks Bryn...I was thinking of wintery scenes when I did it...

Don't forget that you'll need to clean the track from time to time, so don't put trees where you'll curse them later!

Thanks David - Good point...might have to invest in one of those track cleaning wagons as a back up...

are you sure 2 weeks of in laws hasn't made you barmy ?

First the robbery...and now this...had you not yet clicked that with me 'the lights are on but nobody's home'?...

Whilst I agree that trees are often modelled too small making them much larger could reduce the impact of the viaduct. Its the difference in viewpoint. AS always we need to find the compromise that gives the right effect. Like the idea Pete I wonder if a coat of green paint would help to judge the effect?

Don

Good planing practice again, Pete! I agree about the size of the trees - especially toward the front of the layout - it'll help force the perspective. Looking great.

Now that's attention to detail - planting mock trees! As a compromise between the expensive 4d models and making your own trees I find the Woodland Scenics kits come out well and are quite therapeutic to make! Using cheap ready made trees at the back to give impression of depth and cover can work really well. The sculptamold has come out well, it's great stuff to work with. Mind you I personally find a tub if it puts me off porridge - although my sons left over porridge and wetabix sets so hard it might make a possible alternative!

Thanks Tom - Yes a few cheaper trees in the mix would help with density...

I know you're only planning position here Pete, but don't be afraid of getting some good size trees in there! :DToo often we get the trees on our trainsets too small and their impact on the scene is lost. You mention that the trees were quite young in the 80's. By the late eighties, it appears that some of those trees were pushing 45/50ft? http://www.djipix.co...subcategory=19#Incidentally, it looks like they might have copied your design on that viaduct...

Thanks Tony - Fair comment...I need to recheck my photos as the ones of 1976 at Moorswater the trees are barely twice the height of a class 25...

I'd tend to agree with Tony, some of the trees at CJ must have been pretty high in the early 80s - cos the certainly were 10 years ago...as for Scultamould and porridge, I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks that!

Not withstanding the comments above, when I look at photos of Coombe Junction, same era, the trees are three times the height of a class 25

Whilst I agree that trees are often modelled too small making them much larger could reduce the impact of the viaduct. Its the difference in viewpoint. AS always we need to find the compromise that gives the right effect. Like the idea Pete I wonder if a coat of green paint would help to judge the effect?Don

I think your right Don...its about compromise and what gives the right effect. Earlier I had a look on the fab 'Diesels in the Duchy' thread and the trees are not that large, but the whole scene just 'looks right'...Thanks for the green paint suggestion Don, but I will keep them white as they will be reused on my architectural models...which are normally white...

or the "Track Mop" made by Mill Lane Sidingshttp://www.mill-lane...lstrackmop.htmlHoward

Thanks Howard - Noted and stored in my memory for the future...

Good planing practice again, Pete! I agree about the size of the trees - especially toward the front of the layout - it'll help force the perspective. Looking great.

Thanks Mike - I presume you mean larger at the front getting smaller to the rear...there may be a danger of not seeing any trains soon...

This was carefully applied so that the viaduct and both dries buildings are still removable to allow offsite work on them. Soon I need to bite the bullet and bed them in so scenics can progress.

Don't forget the cligwrap trick; used with a little foilage or long flock and any gaps are nigh invisible..

Cadbury's creme eggs...which unfortunately, I can't find here

OH GOO!

Michael

Don't forget the cligwrap trick; used with a little foilage or long flock and any gaps are nigh invisible..

Thanks Michael - Not sure I know of 'Cligwrap' but I think I know what you are describing. The buildings need to be bedded in soon even if the viaduct remains removable...

I guess he means wrapping your buildings (err... temporarily) in clingfilm so that you can push the sculptamold/polyfilla/whatever right up to their edge. Silver foil also works well - it can be better at staying where it's put in some situations.

Thanks Andy - I will probably fix the buildings quite soon as it helps to keep momentum on progress...rather than me dithering about what shades to paint them...

Really clever idea that with the balls! Will you buy the trees or make them from scratch?

Thanks Jeremy - I hinted in my text that I would buy them...and with some 4D trees between 5 and 10 notes per tree, the 10€ spent on various balls to mock it up was well worth it...I will reuse them for the same process on the other two boards too...