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Many thanks one & all, it seems the Coffee stirrers are to thick for 'proper' deal boards. I don't think I have any veneer material to hand. Re. the overhang, in LNWR Wagons Vol.1 it mentions the there's no upstand above the buffer beam, the top is level with the flooring to allow the overhang of timber? It looks like I've a lot of white brake handles to paint over. There's a bit of chain in the pockets, but a finer - perhaps 30+ links per inch - chain would be more suitable, I do have some, somewhere. Another tweak job to be done.

As others seem to go off topic sometimes........ Timber - 'Deal'. There's a LNWR 24' long Dia 14 'Timber Wagon' in a circa 1890's photo (Photo in the LNWR Soc. Journal, Vol 9, No. 8) that has the description along the side rail "TIMBER WAGON FOR DEALS ONLY RETURN TO LIVERPOOL". What exactly are Deals? I checked timber terminology at https://www.greenspec.co.uk/building-design/timber-glossary/ to no avail. I'm assuming (?) I may be able to cut up a load of wooden Coffee Stirrers for a load. Any guidance, much appreciated. This is the wagon I scratch built some 40 years ago, but added the (to heavy) lettering to yesterday - yes it needs toning down too, it's to bright. I suppose somebody will tell me the chains are to heavy too, I can't disagree with that, but that was the only neckless chain suitable at the time 😎 . Point of Order? When did the ends of brake handles start to be painted white?

I want to acquire a copy of LPC9884 - LNWR, 'Engineer South Wales at Builth Road Shed'. Who sells copies these days?

A few years ago, when, like now, my understanding of French was minimal, I parked in a car park just off the centre of Quimper, probably in the 'Parking Place de la Résistance', and inserted the Euro (or three) for a couple of hours parking at just after 11.00hrs, the ticket showed a finish time of 15.00hrs, worried something was wrong - thus may be fined etc., I found an Information Office (or similar) and I was advised "We don't charge during the (2 hour) Lunch break". What a civilised place 😎 In Concarneau at the time, there was a large car park just opposite (more or less) the Island centre, that was free.

Are you looking for more than very few identified in Vol 2 of LNWR Wagons?

Many shop workers however worked all day Saturday, Thursday was a half day, indeed my late Father in-law played for one of the Worcestershire teams that were known as the 'Early Closers' on Thursday's before WW2, he ran the line (linesman) at one of the pre-war Wembley Finals too. Many of us are old enough to remember that only the Paper Shop was open on a Sunday morning too.

Hopefully they have managed to copy the large collection they had tucked away in another store warehouse somewhere when I was there some 35 - 40 years ago. I was told at the time they didn't have the staff available to copy the drawings. At the time, the 'available' collection was on microfiche and printed off at A2 or A1 sizes. Some? of the descriptions of the items were vague? I spent a a bit of time there, looking through the collection, mainly for South Wales Rlys....

The 'dipping' pen nib I used for many years in lettering PO wagons was the Gillott's '303' nib. The main thing was to have a proper sized holder, something easy to grip, not some slim-line affair like they sell as mapping pens holders.

Mine too, perhaps it's the 'Z' in Penzance, if the steady drip of distributing MRJ is alpha-numeric 🤓 (BRM was in the letter box too, but no RM, though that is available in Sainsbury's - all by Subscription, originally due to Covid lockdown).

Alphabetically ? No, still waiting for mine... Sandy Cr........ . When I use to pick my copy up from WHS pre-Covid, PZ invariably had copies in before the rest of the UK.

Thank you, I have seen a model done like that - though I wouldn't like to have handled the chains, they looked extra heavy, on the model - other models have had four 'rings' along the deck each side with chains attached. I'm trying follow the maxim of "Don't copy a model". I will try a few friends for a copy of the illustration in the book you mention. Many thanks. Livery I'm now happy with - Passenger, yellow lettering, on the side rails.

Back in July 2013, Donw asked "....Anyone know anything about the livery of a Hydra..... " and as far as I can see nobody has answered that question. There's a few models about which show the G W on the side rail, but in the back of my mind I thought I had seen a prototype photo of the Passenger rated Hydra when it was introduced circa 1909, with a slightly larger G W on the riveted 'solebar' below the side rail, of course this may have been a Goods rated 'Loriot' which had the lettering on the 'solebar', and thus my mistake in Livery detail. A further query is the arrangements of/for chains on the wagon, where they fixed at one end of the chain, and how many of them where there? My period of interest is 1910 - 1912. There may well be a photo in a GWR specific wagon book, but as I'm a LNWR modeller, there's a limit to just how many books one can have.

The 'current' Humbrol I've managed to buy over the last 3 - 4 years is like treacle. These have been from different suppliers too. My tins of Humbrol that are at least 10 years old are far superior, though 'obviously' I've used up the popular colours, like black.

The wagon following Loco 89, doesn't seem to have much life left in the wheel rims. The other wagon visible seems to be on a par too....

..... and when did the end of the brake levers need to be painted white? In the Glouc., wagon book, most but NOT all the white tyred wagons had white brake lever ends. A quick glance showed those with unpainted wheel rims didn't seem to have white brake lever ends. All E.& O.E. 🥴

Thank you DCB. I first heard this use of a whistle at a Warley Show, probably pre-NEC, on a 0 Gauge layout, might even have been Paul Jones'. A Pannier tank was in a far siding having done some local shunting and was now ready to come out onto the main running line(s), a couple of 'toots' from the speaker placed near the engine, a few (or more) seconds to change the points, then drop the signal, another quick toot from the 'engine' (presumably saying thankyou) and it moved off onto the running lines and away. Not rocket science, but those viewers there, looked pleased, impressed or something, a nice little sound cameo. My layout is a roundy-roundy now and has both up and down home signals to the station (the other side of the layout is the Fiddle Yard), I also have visitors to the layout, mainly from the Village and (small parties) from the local school, who don't know a lot about model railways, so I have numerous small cameo scenes around the layout which I can explain to them. The whistle sound(s), in moderation, I feel will just add that extra dimension, catch their attention, and I admit give me something to play with as well 🤔 I'm coming up to 79 years old, there's no chance these days of taking the layout out to shows etc., so invited people come to view.

I thought I had (I do somewhere) a 4mm wagon loaded with slates, but I can't find it at present, however I do have this one with 'Stone' slabs in it, cut in the same way as magmouse's slates. I know the slates I cut, took me ages and once collected together, I held them in (horizontal) stacks with 'Kirby Grips'. Agreed perhaps I should put a canvass bag in between the separate piles of slabs to stop them falling towards the centre of the wagon. The wagon itself is probably 45 years old. Re. black card mentioned in a earlier post, when I was working I seemed to have to buy ties on a regular basis, and at major railway stations there was invariably a Tie Rack outlet, their ties came in solid black card packaging, I still have a few of those. And for the pedantic, no it's not a known PO owner at Knighton (LNWR). And the track etc., this is in the Fiddle Yard, helps me see things with my declining eyesight. .

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Thank you, I shall have a go, I have plenty of 'time' for such a project. I will come back and let you know what happens, once something happens 😎

I would like to locate a couple of speakers on my layout, each one by a Home signal, to replicate a LNWR engine calling the signal box, etc., perhaps just a quick blast or two. I've heard a few simple whistle sound modules available, but all have that wheezy, false sound. I'm assuming any of the DCC sound modules have a copy of the real Coal Tank 1054's actual whistle on them. Now apart from buying a whole DCC setup just for the whistle(s), is there any other way of getting what I seek? Thank you.

The only Potato Label I have is this BR one from Inverkeilor to Oswestry, 120 bags in Vehicle M230461. The 2 refers to tarpaulins, so an open wagon. Inverkeilor is my (generations of) Family home, and yes as a youngster (late 1940's, early 50's) I was part of the potato picking gangs (Child labour?), in fact the Scottish School holidays were structured to allow the Schools to be closed during the potato season. And yes I was also a Raspberry etc., picker.

I left off the side chains etc., though again used shackle 5 link couplings on my two of these kits. Agreed this is well cast and goes together nicely.

Martin, back to your original opening line, an 'embankment' is a single slope artificially created. A cutting will have two embankments, one either side of the cutting base. Thus an embankment is just one slope, though the term 'embankment' is taken/assumed to mean a raised area with a downward slope (embankment) either side. Hope this helps, and all's well with you 🙂

Amoxycillen, that's the ONLY one I'm allergic to, honestly.

You make them yourself. The shackle pin is a Peco track pin, The top link is from PC 'Screw Link' Etchings - normally the curved part is through the hook, the two 'holes' connecting to the middle 'screw' representation bit. But here at the top for the Peco track pin to go through. The 3 middle ones are from a (old) neckless chain, and the bottom one bent up from garden iron flower wire. 'Simples'....... OK, perhaps I was pulling your leg a bit re. mentioning 5 link shackled couplings, but........