sp1 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Amongst all the excitement over the newly announced Peco Bullhead track, no one seems to have picked up on the fact that they have also announced a new turntable motor, or was I dreaming........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adams442T Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Yes, looks interesting with, if I read it correctly, 8 exit positions. It could be very useful under some of the nicer etched tables, London Road for instance, or even with the venerable Airfix/Dapol offering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp1 Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 Yes, looks interesting with, if I read it correctly, 8 exit positions. It could be very useful under some of the nicer etched tables, London Road for instance, or even with the venerable Airfix/Dapol offering.Not only that, but they mention retooling their own turntable slightly so that this is a clip fit - I know that the purists might want a different turntable, but at least Pecos is based on a British prototype, unlike, say Fleishmann - I think Pecos is based on an SR one?? - but, a simple to fit together indexed turntable: no contest, I'm having one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyingscotsmanfan Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 If they are retooling does this mean it won't fit to the current turntables also any ideas on price etc?I know of two that need motorisation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadway Clive Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Hopefully there will be some way of securing to an existing turntable, maybe by drilling holes and bolting. That would enable it to compete with the existing motorising kits. I use the ancient motor and transparent plastic gear box advertised for decades in RM - very noisy and reliant on sight for alignment. I'm wondering if the 8 exit positions are fixed or adjustable, and is this in addition to a complete (reverse) turn? Otherwise just 4 positions might count as 8 exits! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rue_d_etropal Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 A simple non motored alternative might have been nice, and probably cheaper. The assumption that everything has to be electrically driven is short sighted, unless you are targeting mainly DCC supporters. On a similar idea, how about re-introducing the r2p signals that Ration did for a while. The simple mechanism did not suffer from motor burn out. They also needed less depth under board than the Dapol ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted February 4, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 4, 2016 Hopefully, this might lead on to an expanded range of turntable kits. e.g. a 60' version which would look more at home on a small/medium sized layout. Then I can stop hunting for one of the smaller (70' in HO) Heljan ones........ John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I welcome this announcement. I am toying with the idea of a turntable on my next layout. If Peco do a british-outline one that is easily motorised, that could just swing it for me. I know there are after-market solutions for the existing Peco TT but an all-in-one solution would be welcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnich Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I welcome this announcement. I am toying with the idea of a turntable on my next layout. If Peco do a british-outline one that is easily motorised, that could just swing it for me. I know there are after-market solutions for the existing Peco TT but an all-in-one solution would be welcome. Has there been any update on when this motor will be released? I purchased the peco turntable for my new build layout hoping it would be available fairly shortly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B15nac Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Any news on these yet I wonder Kind regards Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejstubbs Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Both Rails and MRD are still showing the PL-55 as pre-order, due 2017. The original article about it on the Peco website says the motor will have eight positions, not exit positions (which could indeed mean only four actual positions for the table itself). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
66C Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Hopefully, this might lead on to an expanded range of turntable kits. e.g. a 60' version which would look more at home on a small/medium sized layout. Then I can stop hunting for one of the smaller (70' in HO) Heljan ones........ John Alternatively you might wish to consider the following: http://www.kitwoodhillmodels.com/ho-65ft-turntable/ Regards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColHut Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Did this item ever see the light of day? it is variously listed as "TBA" and "discontinued" on various websites? regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Did this item ever see the light of day? it is variously listed as "TBA" and "discontinued" on various websites? regards I have one and it is a very nice kit, as far as I am aware, still available. Information about motors, noise and fitting them, is discussed here https://www.dccconceptsforum.com/post/mister-rustys-workbench-dcc-peco-turntable-control-9914890?&trail=30 These are not the only options, of course, but if you turn the sound on with the video comparisons of the motors, you can get a good idea of what might suit you. One of the important topics mentioned is the turntable sagging with locos placed on the turntable. I found a small amount of flash along the floor joins [it needed a magnifying glass to spot it] which left the walls and the top lip with 3 small gaps. The gaps prevent the continuity of the circle formed by the wall and top lip, removing the structural integrity and strength of the intended circle. Any appreciable weight on the Turntable would allow these gaps to close together, which, in turn allows the walls to partially collapsed inwards, hence the floor of the turntable sagging. With the flash removed, the sides fit together and form a strong structure, which will take the weight of a loco with ease. Hope this is of assistance. Julian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul80 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 I went with the MERG turntable controller with geared stepper motor, 16 positions and each one individually adjusted, it's not cheap at around £80 plus the turntable but it works well with very accurate positioning. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColHut Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Thankyou both. I seem unable to press the thanks button at the moment. I will check out both options. regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Alder Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 The Peco motor is featured in their 2019 newsletter marked as in progress and with a modified design, so presumably is still planned for release. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium steam-driven boy Posted February 12, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 12, 2019 Hi, Also mentioned very briefly in the March '19 Railway Modeller, subscription copy arrived today: Quote Development work continues... Regards, Gerry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
standardblue Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 My dad spoke to Peco at Model Rail Scotland last weekend, he got the impression that it'll be released fairly soon. Seems they had some trouble developing the control to stop it in the right place, but that they may have removed that feature from the final product. (It was originally meant to have several preset stopping points.) Mark 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) As a sort of aside, I do rather wonder about the desire for Indexed control for a turntable. We do all sorts of things to make our train sets look, sound and operate like the full size versions {apparently made as prototypes for our 1:76 inadequates}. Where turntables are modelled, there seems to be a wish to control them with a system which wasn't anywhere like typical of the full size ones. Turntables were variously powered by human muscle, Loco vacuum, Loco steam, external electric / IC {?} motor etc. The decision about where the turntable stopped was, in all these cases, a decision made by the operator. Also, Indexing sets the Bridge rotating at a set speed, until the expected destination, at which point it stops just as abruptly as it started. That would hardly have been how a large Bridge, containing an even heavier Loco, might have commenced or completed it's traverse. Indexing seems an expensive way to replicate operations that were not typical of how they were achieved on full size versions. Regards Julian Edited February 25, 2019 by jcredfer 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLBH Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 On 25/02/2019 at 20:43, jcredfer said: Also, Indexing sets the Bridge rotating at a set speed, until the expected destination, at which point it stops just as abruptly as it started. That would hardly have been how a large Bridge, containing an even heavier Loco, might have commenced or completed it's traverse. Indexing seems an expensive way to replicate operations that were not typical of how they were achieved on full size versions. A sufficiently clever controller could have realistic-looking acceleration and deceleration, if the developers decided that it was a feature worth incorporating. Any decent motor controller does it anyway, simply because for all but the least demanding applications starting full speed and then stopping abruptly is a good way to destroy the gears! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 4 hours ago, RLBH said: A sufficiently clever controller could have realistic-looking acceleration and deceleration, if the developers decided that it was a feature worth incorporating. Any decent motor controller does it anyway, simply because for all but the least demanding applications starting full speed and then stopping abruptly is a good way to destroy the gears! Indeed so, I'm well aware of means to introduce acceleration and deceleration, after a single accessory selection and have a full set of DCC Concepts details on how, thanks to Richard. However, the bridge will still go at a set speed, regardless of load. All of which has nothing to do with the point that Indexing was not like the methods the full size turntables used. On 25/02/2019 at 20:43, jcredfer said: We do all sorts of things to make our train sets look, sound and operate like the full size versions Just to be clear, Indexing doesn't replicate how the full size ones were and still are operated, but if you want to spend time and money Indexing, rule No. 1 applies, enjoy. Regards Julian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Derails Models Posted October 10, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 10, 2019 It's here! Long awaited, the Peco turntable motor has now been released to the public and will be arriving on the shop shelves very soon! Here's all of the info and some pictures. Plenty of shops are already taking advance orders for this item. :) From Peco themselves: "At last, we are very happy to be able to offer a complementary motor for our popular turntable kits. Although these were never designed to be motorised it was clear for a long time that modellers have been looking for ways to be able to avoid the use of their hands to turn the deck on their layouts! Now we can offer our very smooth, silent motor, an easy-to-use and simple arrangement that will be perfect for most situations. This new motor is suitable for all PECO turntables, so that includes the N, OO/HO, O-16.5 (On30), SM-32 and the HOm scale versions. This non-indexing motor (which means that there are no pre-set or programmable settings) means that the modeller can simply line up the deck against the exit or entrance road by eye, and the controls allow for small adjustments should things not align perfectly. This gives the modeller ultimate flexibility and control, and means that existing turntables on layouts can easily accommodate the new motor without any major track re-laying exercise! Power has to be provided from an independent 12vDC 2 amp supply, but other than that everything needed is included. Operating the motor is straightforward: you press and hold either of the clockwise or anti-clockwise buttons to rotate the deck and release the button when you wish to stop. Operation is extremely smooth. Retro-fitting the motor to an existing turntable in-situ is easy. The kit is supplied with three mounting fixtures that, when assembled, are glued to the underside of the turntable deck. There is also a special joining collar that links the motor to the central shaft of the turntable deck. Although this is a tight interference fit it is best that this is also glued into place. Full instructions are included in the kit." 2 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpgibbons Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 RRP GBP62.50, which is reasonable compared to DIY solutions I've seen. As the article says, the kits were not designed to be motorised so I look forward to hearing how well this works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted October 12, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 12, 2019 Interesting. I've got one of these turntables to build and was thinking of making my own mechanism for it using Meccano. But I was under the impression that the new Peco motor was going to incorporate[orate indexing (and it seems earlier posters in this thread thought that too), but this doesn't appear to be the case now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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