TT-Pete Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 58 minutes ago, RedGemAlchemist said: Thank you for the return to normality, JW. These are some phenomenal photos, mate. Good find. That German 6-2-2 is certainly interesting. Agreed! The caption says "listed it as a AA1 (2’a A 1 n2v)" so is that a 4-2-2-2? The mind boggles, is it a compound - do I see two sets of cylinders driving wheels of different diameters? (And here I was thinking that it was only the LNWR who came up with loopy driving wheel arrangements.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGemAlchemist Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 27 minutes ago, TT-Pete said: And here I was thinking that it was only the LNWR who came up with loopy driving wheel arrangements. Oh, it really wasn't. I've seen European locos which don't even fit into the Whyte notation system. (That image courtesy of the inimitable website of Douglas Self) 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-Pete Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, RedGemAlchemist said: (That image courtesy of the inimitable website of Douglas Self) Love it! http://douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/proprail/proprail.htm 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 hours ago, RedGemAlchemist said: Oh, it really wasn't. I've seen European locos which don't even fit into the Whyte notation system. (That image courtesy of the inimitable website of Douglas Self) And with what looks like a tram-style rail brake after the leading driver? Whacky! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 hours ago, RedGemAlchemist said: Oh, it really wasn't. I've seen European locos which don't even fit into the Whyte notation system. (That image courtesy of the inimitable website of Douglas Self) And with what looks like a tram-style rail brake after the leading driver? Whacky! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 hours ago, RedGemAlchemist said: Oh, it really wasn't. I've seen European locos which don't even fit into the Whyte notation system. (That image courtesy of the inimitable website of Douglas Self) And with what looks like a tram-style rail brake after the leading driver? Whacky! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Sorry for the triple-decker, RMweb was acting up and posted the copies of its own accord! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted November 4, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 4, 2019 4 hours ago, TT-Pete said: Agreed! The caption says "listed it as a AA1 (2’a A 1 n2v)" so is that a 4-2-2-2? The mind boggles, is it a compound - do I see two sets of cylinders driving wheels of different diameters? (And here I was thinking that it was only the LNWR who came up with loopy driving wheel arrangements.) The drawback of the Whyte system is that it does not distinguish between driven and carrying wheels - so a Crampton stern-wheeler and a Webb Teutonic both come out as 2-2-2-0. Webb wasn't alone in experimenting with uncoupled driving wheels; Dugald Drummond experimented with the "double single" with his T7/E10 4-cylinder simple 4-2-2-0s; here the objective was to have a large grate area (long firebox) without long coupling rods: 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
webbcompound Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 4 hours ago, RedGemAlchemist said: Oh, it really wasn't. I've seen European locos which don't even fit into the Whyte notation system. (That image courtesy of the inimitable website of Douglas Self) looks like a GWR guilty secret to me. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted November 4, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 4, 2019 4 hours ago, Hroth said: And with what looks like a tram-style rail brake after the leading driver? It’s a wiper puck-up. They used 2-rail electrification to power a feed water heater. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 May I just squeeze in appreciation of an OT but most enjoyably SE&CR story featuring: a £250,000 1709 Baroque violin, a long days night in Abbey Studios, a late evening Penge East. Beckenham Junction to Orpington service,, a 1990s fly fishing trip to the Outer Hebrides, a long lasting friendship between a Scotland Yard detective and a first class violinist long retired, the detective decides on this last {and most personally satisfying of all) clandestine case in cahoots with a hidden lot of Railway Police for a tense lying-in-wait set piece showdown ... ... played out to smiles and a finale of 'Amazing Grace'! Conan Doyle and even Theopholus O'Doolite himself, me-thinks, are out-fiddled by this realistic contemporary narrative. dh 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm 0-6-0 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 5 hours ago, TT-Pete said: Love it! http://douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/proprail/proprail.htm Propeller driven locomotives are excellent for reducing the problem of overcrowded platforms 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium nick_bastable Posted November 5, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, runs as required said: May I just squeeze in appreciation of an OT but most enjoyably SE&CR story featuring: a £250,000 1709 Baroque violin, a long days night in Abbey Studios, a late evening Penge East. Beckenham Junction to Orpington service,, a 1990s fly fishing trip to the Outer Hebrides, a long lasting friendship between a Scotland Yard detective and a first class violinist long retired, the detective decides on this last {and most personally satisfying of all) clandestine case in cahoots with a hidden lot of Railway Police for a tense lying-in-wait set piece showdown ... ... played out to smiles and a finale of 'Amazing Grace'! Conan Doyle and even Theopholus O'Doolite himself, me-thinks, are out-fiddled by this realistic contemporary narrative. dh a slight error should be a hard days night in abbey studios meanwhile what is his lordship the mayor up to following the last loyal toast ? Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 9 hours ago, Regularity said: It’s a wiper puck-up. They used 2-rail electrification to power a feed water heater. I was going to suggest that, but I chickened out.... Anyhow, so thats where they got the idea for split-chassis model locos? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-Pete Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 9 hours ago, Regularity said: It’s a wiper puck-up. They used 2-rail electrification to power a feed water heater. Cor, there really is a prototype for everything, isn't there? I knew the Swiss did overhead electric kettles, but rail pick-up is a new one on me... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted November 5, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 5, 2019 Deadpan humour fails again! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Annie Posted November 5, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 5, 2019 11 hours ago, runs as required said: May I just squeeze in appreciation of an OT but most enjoyably SE&CR story featuring: a £250,000 1709 Baroque violin, a long days night in Abbey Studios, a late evening Penge East. Beckenham Junction to Orpington service,, a 1990s fly fishing trip to the Outer Hebrides, a long lasting friendship between a Scotland Yard detective and a first class violinist long retired, the detective decides on this last {and most personally satisfying of all) clandestine case in cahoots with a hidden lot of Railway Police for a tense lying-in-wait set piece showdown ... ... played out to smiles and a finale of 'Amazing Grace'! Conan Doyle and even Theopholus O'Doolite himself, me-thinks, are out-fiddled by this realistic contemporary narrative. dh You can't leave it there. What's the title of this amazing story? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-Pete Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Annie said: You can't leave it there. What's the title of this amazing story? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50275613 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 12 hours ago, nick_bastable said: meanwhile what is his lordship the mayor up to following the last loyal toast ? Nick The test track has crept forward ever so slightly, so i'll try to do better over the coming weekend, but mainly I've been engaged in research (unpaid!) for a certain retail commissioner. Hoping that things will start to develop in an interesting way, but we'll see. As a consequence I'm temporarily trained-out, would you believe it, and have turned to Marlborough's campaigns for solace. Fear not, I'm sure I will be back to my bumptiously rail-obsessed self soon! In the meantime .... 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 Meanwhile, a not very funny thing happened on the way to the Forum. If only I'd had some common sense .... Senator Reesius Moggus apologies for the fact that the Plebs are too stupid to understand what he was really saying. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Rixon Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 27 minutes ago, Edwardian said: The test track has crept forward ever so slightly, so i'll try to do better over the coming weekend, but mainly I've been engaged in research (unpaid!) for a certain retail commissioner. Hoping that things will start to develop in an interesting way, but we'll see. As a consequence I'm temporarily trained-out, would you believe it, and have turned to Marlborough's campaigns for solace. Fear not, I'm sure I will be back to my bumptiously rail-obsessed self soon! In the meantime .... A rusticated Metro, how lovely! Except...I hear these London engines have bought up all the shed roads and the locals can't get parked of a night. And they keep whining for a better grade of coal. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted November 5, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 5, 2019 28 minutes ago, Edwardian said: Senator Reesius Moggus apologies for the fact that the Plebs are too stupid to understand what he was really saying. I rather liked the description given by the Grauniad's sketch writer recently: The idiot's thinking man. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Regularity said: I rather liked the description given by the Grauniad's sketch writer recently: The idiot's thinking man. It's a shame that further pain has been caused but also because, as a simple 'heartless gaff' story, it will gain more coverage than the potentially rather significant delay to the report on Russian interference, which appears to be being kept out of the public domain on pretty tenuous grounds just prior to an election campaign ... I shall escape back to the War of Spanish Succession ... 3 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted November 5, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 5, 2019 40 minutes ago, Edwardian said: It's a shame that further pain has been caused but also because, as a simple 'heartless gaff' story, it will gain more coverage than the potentially rather significant delay to the report on Russian interference, which appears to be being kept out of the public domain on pretty tenuous grounds just prior to an election campaign ... Far be it for me to suggest a degree of orchestrated distraction going on there... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 36 minutes ago, Regularity said: Far be it for me to suggest a degree of orchestrated distraction going on there... Oh, Simon, so young and yet so cynical! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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