jwealleans Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Surprised this hasn't been mentioned before now, but I can't see it in the search: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-36950451 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted August 2, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 2, 2016 Not good - but unless it poses an immediate danger road closures take timers plan in - which is exactly what NR had done. It's just a bit unfortunate the wall finally gave way 3 days before the plan to start repairs could comense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted August 2, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2016 We have booked a day out in Scarborough using the new Saturday St.Pancras return service.Hope this doesn't mess up the plans.Thanks for the heads up on this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest B Exam Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 5M85 23.36 Nottingham-Leicester ECS last train under the bridge before the partial collapse shortly after midnight. Good job it was running 5 mins early otherwise it would of ran into the debris! Also of note its only 200 yards from another bridge collapse in 2008! That time a tipper lorry drove under a footbridge with his rear raised and knocked the bridge off its mounts. 158856 Working a Nottingham-Norwich subsequently ran into the now demolished bridge, seriously injuring the driver. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locoholic Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Oh dear. Doesn't reflect very well on Network Rail. I wonder if the bridge will be demolished and rebuilt with greater clearance to allow for electrification? Any chance for Nottingham and Sheffield to be served via Corby? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Any chance for Nottingham and Sheffield to be served via Corby? The closure is north of Leicester, so using the line via Corby won't bypass it. I suspect the biggest problem is that most of the units needed to work London-Leicester are currently stuck north of the blockage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted August 2, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 2, 2016 This is causing major disruption on East Midlands Trains and related services. NR may get the debris off the line in time for tomorrow but the bank & rest of the bridge is evidently unstable and the heavy rain may have hastened the slippage, so don't count on it reopening very soon. A diversion via Corby & Manton Jct doesnt help destinations North of Leicester as the junction at Syston is South of Barrow. Of course, the GCR is running Teddy Bears Holiday Express trains Loughborough Central-Leicester North, which may help local traffic! Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomag Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Having done a number of assessments of brick arch bridges in the 1990's there was a tendency with some railway company bridges for the spandrel wall to part from the barrel. This is not helped by some not having footpaths (as it seems here), so there is no dissipation of lateral loads caused by HGVs. To badly paraphrase Voltaire - it is good that from time to time a bridge collapses (without injury) for the encouragement of maintaining bridge inspection budgets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Rather ironically, Grove Lane bridge would have had plenty of clearance for OHLE. Presumably London passengers from Sheffield are being directed to travel via Doncaster/Retford, Nottingham ones via Grantham and Derby via B'ham. Some Sheffield-London trains are being turned round at Loughborough, but (as already mentioned) the Corby line is no use for diversions in this instance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Locals reported on the radio that the pathway at the point of the collapse, has suffered from subsidence for years and that repairs usually involve a bit of backfill and re-tarmac the surface. The photo below appears to show previous patch-up work..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cary hill Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 I must have thought that bridge was looking in poor condition in the Summer of 2013 as I don't normally photograph brickwork: It's diagonally opposite to the collapsed part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted August 2, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 2, 2016 If the embankment is moving as mentioned above this could take some time to fix. I suppose the key thing will be whether the other arch is stable in which case they could at least start running on the slow lines. As mentioned above there isn't an easy diversion apart from reversing at Leicester and running via Coalville and Burton and I don't think that line's in a very good state. Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leander Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Now, if the Melton line was still open from Nottingham there'd be a diversionary route available. Ah well! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Jamie, I'd have thought that it was a definite "no-no" to try to run trains under a partly collapsed bridge, especially when the integrity of the whole structure is unclear. Using the Coalville line would be a non-starter too, I'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
£1.38 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 At least Barrow on Soar has 3 railway bridges, so 2 should still be operational. Maybe they need to bite the bullet and just knock the old structure down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Looking at the pictures in this article: https://uk.news.yahoo.com/rail-chaos-commuters-barrow-upon-083813785.html?nhp=1 It certainly seems to have collapsed good and proper! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted August 2, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2016 At least Barrow on Soar has 3 railway bridges, so 2 should still be operational. Maybe they need to bite the bullet and just knock the old structure down. So have you any ideas on what you do with the rubble and possible further collateral disruption and damage that course of action would cause ? Sheffield,Nottingham,Derby and Chesterfield and other major centres are currently without a direct rail connection to London.This needs to be restored as quickly and safely as possible as I am sure it will be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cary hill Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 At least Barrow on Soar has 3 railway bridges, so 2 should still be operational. Maybe they need to bite the bullet and just knock the old structure down. First completely daft suggestion on this thread so far, particularly as this collapsed bridge together with the next bridge north form part of the village one way traffic system for coping with large lorries etc., Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 for coping with large lorries etc., Or not as seems to be the case... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 I'm sure all the options are on the table for resolving this asap, including demolition. Demolition would be the obvious option from a rail perspective, but I imagine it's a last resort for the road users. If it wasn't due to be rebuilt for electrification, I expect it will be now... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
£1.38 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 First completely daft suggestion on this thread so far, particularly as this collapsed bridge together with the next bridge north form part of the village one way traffic system for coping with large lorries etc., Sorry, I meant they should demolish & rebuild - not just demolish it and close the link altogether. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meil Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Who owns the bridge? Network Rail or the local Highway Authority? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Just to clarify, for those enthusiasts who have visited the area, the bridge concerned is the one used to obtain the attached pic., in fact I was standing on the part of the pavement that has now collapsed in order to do so. John. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Just to clarify, for those enthusiasts who have visited the area, the bridge concerned is the one used to obtain the attached pic., in fact I was standing on the part of the pavement that has now collapsed in order to do so. John. I can recommend a very good dietician.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted August 2, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2, 2016 Apparently contractors drilled some expository holes but went through a water main which caused the collapse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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