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Fragonset 33103 in Cornwall 2006


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  • RMweb Gold

Hi there,

 

Been looking at adding some extra loco types to my Cornish based layout other than the usual BZ regulars.

 

I found some fots of 33103 'Swordfish' around Cornwall in March 2006 from a site I use a lot and well worth a look-link below:

 

 

http://www.southwestrailphots.fotopic.net/

 

It's hauling a single green carriage and my questions are:

 

What type of coach is it?

 

What is it?

 

What was it doing in Cornwall?

 

How could one be modelled?

 

Has anyone modelled one?

 

Fots below plus an amazing shot of the train on the Calstock Viaduct-a bit too east of Cornwall for me thoughwink.gif :

 

http://www.southwestrailphots.fotopic.net/p46200996.html

 

http://www.southwestrailphots.fotopic.net/p46201000.html

 

http://www.southwestrailphots.fotopic.net/p46201001.html

 

Hattons are selling off Heljan 33103's at £44 so could make an interesting variation on the norm.

 

Thanks.

 

Mark

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Hi there,

 

Been looking at adding some extra loco types to my Cornish based layout other than the usual BZ regulars.

 

I found some fots of 33103 'Swordfish' around Cornwall in March 2006 from a site I use a lot and well worth a look-link below:

 

 

http://www.southwest...ts.fotopic.net/

 

It's hauling a single green carriage and my questions are:

 

What type of coach is it?

 

What is it?

 

What was it doing in Cornwall?

 

How could one be modelled?

 

Has anyone modelled one?

 

Fots below plus an amazing shot of the train on the Calstock Viaduct-a bit too east of Cornwall for me thoughwink.gif :

 

http://www.southwest.../p46200996.html

 

http://www.southwest.../p46201000.html

 

http://www.southwest.../p46201001.html

 

Hattons are selling off Heljan 33103's at £44 so could make an interesting variation on the norm.

 

Thanks.

 

Mark

 

The green coach is an inspection saloon called Caroline. It gets around a bit. It's fitted with driving controls so that it can be propelled but that might be post-2006.

 

A picture of the saloon itself.

 

I'm not sure of the provenance of the saloon but I have a feeling it's only modelable in its current form by modifying a brass kit. It gets discussed on here moderately regularly.

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The green coach is an inspection saloon called Caroline. It gets around a bit. It's fitted with driving controls so that it can be propelled but that might be post-2006.

 

A picture of the saloon itself.

 

I'm not sure of the provenance of the saloon but I have a feeling it's only modelable in its current form by modifying a brass kit. It gets discussed on here moderately regularly.

 

Hi Tim,

 

Thanks for the reply.

 

At least I know what it's called now! wink.gif

 

That's probably why I've never been aware of previous discussions due to it being called 'Caroline'.

 

It's a good fot though.

 

Thanks once again.

 

Mark

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Hi Martin,

 

Thanks for the info. That's a useful site.

 

Guess the question is as anyone built Caroline and from what source. Guess it would be a bit of a task?

 

Cheers.

 

Mark

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Mark,

 

No Nonsense Kits appear to be working on something that seems to fit the bill. Extract from http://www.nnkits.co...Revised_MTK.htm

 

EMU 44

 

SR GENERAL MANAGER'S SALOON (EX HASTINGS DMU)

 

t.b.a

 

Kit currently being re-tooled

 

 

Cheers Phil,

 

Sounds interesting although I can vaguely remember MTK kits from the 80's being swines to build and I think there have been posts on here about them.

 

Will keep my eye out.

 

Thanks.

 

Mark

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I have a rtr version of the saloon. These are readily available but are hand-built. I'll try and add some pics...

 

http://clagmonster09.../p59415146.html the saloon at YRK

http://clagmonster09.../p59415147.html with a pait of 37s

 

Hi Wensley,

 

Thanks for your reply.

 

Be interested in seeing the fots.

 

Cheers.

 

Mark

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Hi Wesley,

 

Thanks for that picture. Certainly looks impressive. Be good to see some more fots as well. What shade of green is it?

 

As for Tim's comment re: RTR I think it's a case of the Emporer's New Clothes!!!biggrin.gif

 

Can't you see the bogies and underframe gubbins?wink.gif laugh.gif

 

Thanks once again to you both.

 

Cheers.

 

Mark

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So are you the manufacturer Wensley?

 

If so what is the material used for Caroline?

 

Tell me more.

 

Thanks.

 

Mark

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No. Built by Britannia Pacific Models...

 

 

 

Hi Wensley,

 

Thanks for the info-I'll look into it later.

 

Tell me a bit more about the Caroline you're building and do you have any more fots.

 

Thanks also Derek for your earlier picture.

 

Cheers.

 

Mark

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