RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted August 8, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 8, 2019 I have memories of being at Mallerstang on the 11th August 68 and various West Coast diversions were on that afternoon, along with the 15 Guinea special. I'm sure that some of the ones that passed us were double headed. Jamie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 3 hours ago, jamie92208 said: I have memories of being at Mallerstang on the 11th August 68 and various West Coast diversions were on that afternoon, along with the 15 Guinea special. I'm sure that some of the ones that passed us were double headed. Jamie Another vague memory - seeing an up train a bit north of Carnforth in early September 1968 with two D400s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LNER4479 Posted August 8, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2019 7 hours ago, St Enodoc said: When did they start double-heading with D400s? 8th August 2019 Happy now, children? We have two locos to cover for any failures. Bit like the real thing (although to be fair they do run very nicely) Thanks to Barry O for adorning both locos with correct northbound headcode. 26 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted August 8, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 8, 2019 10 hours ago, LNER4479 said: I can spell Altrincham - it's on my birth certificate! Well now I'm embarrassed 'cos I thought I'd checked the spelling! Really do like the images of full length trains in the landscape (especially the D400s ). Do you have any more shows lined up? I think this is one of those layouts I could just stand & watch for a long time.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted August 8, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 8, 2019 25 minutes ago, LNER4479 said: 8th August 2019 Happy now, children? We have two locos to cover for any failures. Bit like the real thing (although to be fair they do run very nicely) Thanks to Barry O for adorning both locos with correct northbound headcode. Very nice, thank you. Now, about those coaches! Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 44 minutes ago, LNER4479 said: Happy now, children? Nearly. What we really really want is sparklers. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted August 8, 2019 Author Share Posted August 8, 2019 20 minutes ago, Ramblin Rich said: Do you have any more shows lined up? I think this is one of those layouts I could just stand & watch for a long time.... Yes, I can provide a bit of an update. As well as Hartlepool, Peterborough and Glasgow (as per footer), I can confirm that we will also be at York with the layout over Easter 2020 (forms came through today). We also have a confirmed invite for Wigan, October 2020. That's more the right area of the country (shh - don't tell Apollo...) All a bit far from the Exe, though, I have to confess. HOWEVER, and at risk of getting you too excited, we have had an e-mail conversation re taking the layout to Taunton in October 2021. So, if you can wait two years... 15 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said: Very nice, thank you. Now, about those coaches! Mike. Yes I agree. That leading MkII does grate a bit, doesn't it ... 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted August 8, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 8, 2019 25 minutes ago, LNER4479 said: Yes, I can provide a bit of an update. ..... All a bit far from the Exe, though, I have to confess. HOWEVER, and at risk of getting you too excited, we have had an e-mail conversation re taking the layout to Taunton in October 2021. So, if you can wait two years.... Oh, I can certainly 2 years wait but would love it if the Taunton show does happen! Especially as it's usually close to my birthday 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
92220 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 On 08/08/2019 at 15:41, LNER4479 said: I can spell Altrincham - it's on my birth certificate! Love all the announcement stories Bien Sur. Talking of which, this tracklaying lark is all very well but how about this little trio to stir the soul of all red blooded LMR fans? Royal Scot 46146 'The Rifle Brigade' makes steady progress up the bank with a Birmingham-Glasgow express c.1958 46256 purrs past Shap Wells with the lightweight 'Caledonian' express (introduced in 1957) Can you hear it shouting to the surrounding moorlands? Patriot 45543 'Home Guard' makes some three cylinder music at the head of a Euston-Perth express I've said it before but isn't RMWeb a wonderful family? I've not wanted to make any presumptuous posts before now but I am now delighted to introduce another rolling stock contributor to the Shap project, Mr '92220' of this parish. Thanks to his generous offer of making some of his currently idle '1B Camden' stock available, we instantly have these three further expresses in the roster, each filling a sizeable gap in the late 1950s/early 1960s timeframe. As a result of this and Barry's visit on Tuesday, the fiddle yard is rapidly starting to fill up - and I haven't even laid all the tracks yet! The 'down', non-banked roads (right hand side) are starting to fill up quite nicely now. Starting over on the right hand side (Road 1), so far we have: Road 1 - Nine out of the 11 vehicles of the 1950's 'Royal Scot'. LMS train behind (stock just stabled there for now) Road 2 - Birmingham-Glasgow. Caledonian behind Road 3 - Empty (but not for long) Road 4 - Crewe-Carlisle parcels train Road 5 - 1967 Birmingham-Glasgow Road 6 - 1967 Royal Scot. Freightliner behind Last two trains are Barry's and it would be very remiss of me not to mention three further distinctive rolling stock contributions from the man himself (as recently seen on his kitbuilding thread). I'll ensure they get properly photographed at the weekend but they are two LMS Period 1 and one LMS Period 2 coaches, all kit built in blood n custard. One of them can be seen as the second vehicle of the 1950s Birmingham-Glasgow. More soon - if you will excuse me, I have some track to lay! Delighted to offer this lot and more, Graham. Glad it’s been useful. best wishes, Iain 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted August 9, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 9, 2019 On 08/08/2019 at 13:04, LNER4479 said: 1971 ... I think. Accelerated timetable, following route improvements, as a prelude to the wire scrapers in 1973. No doubt someone who knows more about such things will correct me. I'm happier answering questions about hiss n p1ss locos... Dad and I did a tour of Scotland (Freedom of Scotland ticket) in 1971. I recall that we had double-headed 50s from Preston to Glasgow (having changed from a local train from Liverpool). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted August 9, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 9, 2019 D400 (and D401) are just in period. Neither had working MU gear at the time (but this bold statement may be incorrect) The Mk2s and Mk1 are Bachmann with floor mounted KDs (Number 5s to be exact). The Freightliner Rake are modified Triang vehicles and containers. Buffers on the end of each 5 unit rake, bogies lowered, new wheels fitted and an approximation for the "caboose" tried on the Freighliner rake. the trains are coming along nicely... is the track finished yet though? 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted August 9, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 9, 2019 23 hours ago, Dr Gerbil-Fritters said: Nearly. What we really really want is sparklers. they can be provided but will need a battery van to go with them... modified Triang ALl1 Bachmann AL5 Modified Hornby AL6 baz 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted August 9, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 9, 2019 39 minutes ago, Barry O said: D400 (and D401) are just in period. Neither had working MU gear at the time (but this bold statement may be incorrect) The Mk2s and Mk1 are Bachmann with floor mounted KDs (Number 5s to be exact). The Freightliner Rake are modified Triang vehicles and containers. Buffers on the end of each 5 unit rake, bogies lowered, new wheels fitted and an approximation for the "caboose" tried on the Freighliner rake. the trains are coming along nicely... is the track finished yet though? Hi Barry D400 when new had multiple unit jumpers. The rest of the class were delivered without them but only ran like it for a short while. The freightliner looks good. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Barry O said: D400 (and D401) are just in period. Neither had working MU gear at the time (but this bold statement may be incorrect) The Mk2s and Mk1 are Bachmann with floor mounted KDs (Number 5s to be exact). The Freightliner Rake are modified Triang vehicles and containers. Buffers on the end of each 5 unit rake, bogies lowered, new wheels fitted and an approximation for the "caboose" tried on the Freighliner rake. the trains are coming along nicely... is the track finished yet though? Hi Barry, I have just this evening finally finished a batch of fifteen Triang FGA/FFA wagons, three sets of five, in just the way you describe except that I have not yet fitted new wheel sets. The old Triang moulding does look quite good once it has had all of its webs attended to, been lowered and painted up, I have also built a caboose for my set as you have. The picture below was taken before the transfers we applied which make all the difference Gibbo. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leander Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 52 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: D400 when new had multiple unit jumpers. The rest of the class were delivered without them but only ran like it for a short while. As far as I can remember, both D400 and D401 were so fitted. The rest had blanking plates over where the multiple unit connections would have been prior to having them fitted retrospectively. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted August 9, 2019 Author Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Barry O said: the trains are coming along nicely... is the track finished yet though? Another '0rgy' of tracklaying today (oo-er missus), just leaving the entrance pointwork into the five 'Up' roads to do. Some initial wiring up is also happening, in anticipation of the 'sparky' (Andrew) visiting early next week but that's REALLY boring ... We want more trains! And coaches. Just discovered that the Keswick portion of the 'Lakes Express' requires TWO Stanier six compartment brake composites... What odds on the RTR boys doing such a vehicle any time soon? Edited August 9, 2019 by LNER4479 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted August 9, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 9, 2019 24 minutes ago, Leander said: As far as I can remember, both D400 and D401 were so fitted. The rest had blanking plates over where the multiple unit connections would have been prior to having them fitted retrospectively. Hi I think you are right, it was both D400 and D401. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearwater Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, LNER4479 said: Another '0rgy' of tracklaying today (oo-er missus), just leaving the entrance pointwork into the five 'Up' roads to do. Some initial wiring up is also happening, in anticipation of the 'sparky' (Andrew) visiting early next week but that's REALLY boring ... We want more trains! And coaches. Just discovered that the Keswick portion of the 'Lakes Express' requires TWO Stanier six compartment brake composites... What odds on the RTR boys doing such a vehicle any time soon? About doubled the moment you pick up your soldering iron... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted August 9, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Gibbo675 said: Hi Barry, I have just this evening finally finished a batch of fifteen Triang FGA/FFA wagons, three sets of five, in just the way you describe except that I have not yet fitted new wheel sets. The old Triang moulding does look quite good once it has had all of its webs attended to, been lowered and painted up, I have also built a caboose for my set as you have. The picture below was taken before the transfers we applied which make all the difference Gibbo. Very nice. That is the "other" caboose as at the NRM. I will get a photo of my version of the other one on Sunday all being well. Baz 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
92220 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, LNER4479 said: Another '0rgy' of tracklaying today (oo-er missus), just leaving the entrance pointwork into the five 'Up' roads to do. Some initial wiring up is also happening, in anticipation of the 'sparky' (Andrew) visiting early next week but that's REALLY boring ... We want more trains! And coaches. Just discovered that the Keswick portion of the 'Lakes Express' requires TWO Stanier six compartment brake composites... What odds on the RTR boys doing such a vehicle any time soon? I think I may have half built one of those with Comet sides on a donor vehicle. But I’m not sure and can’t check for a while. Iain Edit: Sorry, of course I can check. This is a photo of it early in the conversion. It’s one of the early shallow ventilator vehicles but I seem to recall it’s a composite. Iain Edited August 10, 2019 by 92220 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted August 10, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 10, 2019 10 hours ago, Barry O said: they can be provided but will need a battery van to go with them... modified Triang ALl1 Bachmann AL5 Modified Hornby AL6 baz Perhaps I should finish (read: start) my Liliput AL1 that was supposed to run on Hartford. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted August 10, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 10, 2019 9 hours ago, LNER4479 said: Another '0rgy' of tracklaying today (oo-er missus), just leaving the entrance pointwork into the five 'Up' roads to do. Some initial wiring up is also happening, in anticipation of the 'sparky' (Andrew) visiting early next week but that's REALLY boring ... We want more trains! And coaches. Just discovered that the Keswick portion of the 'Lakes Express' requires TWO Stanier six compartment brake composites... What odds on the RTR boys doing such a vehicle any time soon? A friend of my ex-wife once asked me what I was doing in the loft. "Laying points" I replied. "Lucky points" said she... 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted August 10, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 10, 2019 Red Leader, do you mean these?? resided Period II 62ft Brake Composite The real Period III brake Compo and Porthole Comp or should it be a Pd III full third? and all three Baz 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LNER4479 Posted August 11, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) Continuing with stock developments... It was as long ago as February (cripes) when I last posted regarding the work required to create the two missing coaches for the 1950s 'Royal Scot' train (a PROPER train!), Here they are. As a reminder, we have Restaurant Third (Dia. 56) and Kitchen (Dia. 700). Comet sides, affixed to Lima bodyshells. The Kitchen car requires the most work, including additional undergubbins - provided for in the Comet pack. Picked up some Precision carmine and cream spray cans at the York show so here we go with the livery application (not done blood n custard before!) Not displeased with the result. I splashed out on some Tamiya masking tape and took me time. A few tiny tears of the cream as I (gingerly) unmasked it but relatively easily touched up (just sprayed some cream into a small container and brushed it on). No respite with the Dia. 700 - the roof also requires a fair amount of work requiring two packets of roof vents fitting. Here I have soldered two lengths of 0.5mm n/s wire into each of the water fillers at 90 degrees prior to bending to shape. Not yet complete (obviously!) but beginning to take shape. Footboards still to add then lining and lettering. And handles. Lot of work in a coach... Hopefully this should give some idea?(!) Still short of the RTO and the loco requires a bit of work but otherwise aiming to have it all finished by the time of Peterborough show. Meanwhile, a rather different train being worked on. This is intended to be as faithful as possible a recreation of a Derek Cross photograph at Tebay in September 1964, right at the end of the Duchess story. Towards the end, their use on trains such as this was sad but typical. This was the 'Maiden Lane' fully-fitted perishables train, so at least some element of prestige in such a service, a sort of LMR broad equivalent to the ECML 'Scotch Goods'. This is largely the work of Paul Bolton, with a few wagons from Tom D, with Jonathan in the background as wagon consultant. Back in the 1950s, this is the Liverpool-Glasgow/Edinburgh express complete. Was all ex-LMS stock throughout the 1950s so a lovely counterpoint to the Royal Scot. Usually nothing more powerful than a Jubilee was provided for such trains and, although many a game crew 'went for it' up the 1-in-75, we're going to have this as the one banked express train. The cameraman has zoomed in on the front of the train. 92220's Bachmann Jubilee is at the business end - I have permission to renumber the loco if necessary - but the real 'star' item here is the first vehicle in the train. An old LMS 'period II' (pre-Stanier) open coach, added as a strengthener at the front of the train, typical of the era, this is Barry's work which adds a lovely touch of individuality to such a train. The man himself can be seen here, together with Tom and Paul doing a spot of scenery blinging at the bottom end of the scenic section. Finally, another distinctive train in the making. This is intended to depict a 1950s Tebay-Penrith pick-up goods. In case you might be querying the motive power, Fowler 2-6-2T No.40067 was indeed a Tebay shed resident until 1957 so a likely candidate for such a train. No direct photo to work from for this one so we made this one up from what might be typical local traffic, including the inevitable household coal loads. The van was just an out-of-the-box item plonked in the train for now; it will be replaced with something a little more in keeping. All-in-all, a very pleasant afternoon. Thanks, guys. Edited August 11, 2019 by LNER4479 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted August 12, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 12, 2019 7 hours ago, LNER4479 said: Continuing with stock developments... It was as long ago as February (cripes) when I last posted regarding the work required to create the two missing coaches for the 1950s 'Royal Scot' train (a PROPER train!), Here they are. As a reminder, we have Restaurant Third (Dia. 56) and Kitchen (Dia. 700). Comet sides, affixed to Lima bodyshells. The Kitchen car requires the most work, including additional undergubbins - provided for in the Comet pack. Picked up some Precision carmine and cream spray cans at the York show so here we go with the livery application (not done blood n custard before!) Not displeased with the result. I splashed out on some Tamiya masking tape and took me time. A few tiny tears of the cream as I (gingerly) unmasked it but relatively easily touched up (just sprayed some cream into a small container and brushed it on). No respite with the Dia. 700 - the roof also requires a fair amount of work requiring two packets of roof vents fitting. Here I have soldered two lengths of 0.5mm n/s wire into each of the water fillers at 90 degrees prior to bending to shape. Not yet complete (obviously!) but beginning to take shape. Footboards still to add then lining and lettering. And handles. Lot of work in a coach... Did you use the Lima bogies Graham or replace them with something else? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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