Pictures of quaint small goods yards in the 70s-90s

[Fat Controller]

4 hours ago, SED Freightman said:

That would be an awful lot of fruit juice.  I seem to recall that there was a two way flow of block trains from Wisbech to Scotland (Barrhead?), conveying empty cans northbound and Spillars petfood southbound.  Interestingly there is a brake van on the rear, was this required for long propelling movements / shunting or were there trainman operated crossings on the branch which required a someone at the back to close gate after the train had crossed ?

The Scottish terminal was Paisley Underwood. I believe the traffic disappeared partially because of the switch to pouches instead of cans, so the train was no longer loaded in both directions.

[C126]

16 hours ago, Fat Controller said:

The HAA is a bit of a mystery. The nearest any worked to the area are the Kent coalfield and the cement works in North Kent. I don't know of any less-than-trainload workings of any sort of MGR hopper, apart from to cement works in East Anglia. Even then, it would be half-a-dozen or more wagons, not a solitary one. If it is the one with modified doors, then perhaps it was being trialled for deliveries to either Hove, or one of the cement works along the Sussex coast, such as Beeding or Southerham.

By 1985, I don't think barriers were required on oil services.

 

Thanks to all of you who have chipped in with info.  Alas, Southerham Cement Works had closed by 1985, Southerham being only a distribution point for Rugby Cement by then.

 

 

14 hours ago, SED Freightman said:

The train you saw would most likly have been 6F91 0902 Hove Yard to St Leonards West Marina, this was sheduled to run round at Eastbourne 1043 - 1124, so could have been running somewhat early, the return left St Leonards as 6F92 at 1303.  Most likely explanation for the use of barrier wagons would be if one of the tanks had defective brakes and therefore required three fitted wagons either side to avoid remarshalling the train during the run round moves at Haywards Heath and Eastbourne.  With a daily trip operating from Hove to either St Leonards West Marina or Newhaven, it would have made sense to have had some barrier wagons at Hove to provide cover for wagons with defective brakes as it would not have been practical to remarshal trains at either Haywards Heath or Eastbourne.  As suggested by the Fat Controller, the HAA is most likely to have been the one used as a barrier wagon, there being no use for such wagons at the Central Division coal depots.

 

Many thanks again for this.  I thought an HAA in revenue earning service for domestic coal depots was rather unusual.  Full timetable information much appreciated; my ownership of these is rather sparse.  Best wishes to you all.

[DLT]

Great topic, only just found it.  

Dave.

[DLT]

On 20/08/2019 at 10:24, Fat Controller said:

You mean that isn't a model? It serves as an instant illustration of 'bucolic'.

Out of interest, where did the steeply-graded line on the right go to?

It appears to be an exchange siding on the level with the tramways I think so didn't actually go anywhere.

Have a look at Roger Farnworth's page here:  https://rogerfarnworth.com/2017/10/02/oakwood-and-dikes-tramways/

For some more photos etc, Google "Marsh sidings, Parkend"

Cheers, Dave.

 

[SED Freightman]

22 hours ago, Fat Controller said:

The Scottish terminal was Paisley Underwood. I believe the traffic disappeared partially because of the switch to pouches instead of cans, so the train was no longer loaded in both directions.

Thanks, I have checked and found that the Spillars Pet Food factory was at Barrhead with the rail traffic being transfered by road to Paisley Underwood, the factory was closed by Nestle in 2004.

[sb67]

I was in Wroxham, Norfolk last week and took these pics of what used to be the old goods yard. I wonder if anybody could point me in the right direction of any pics or info of when it was in use? I did a google search and didn't find too much.

Also the concrete hut looks the same type as the ratio kit, assuming it's still in it's original place, does anyone know when that was still being used and would the small platform have been rail side?

I find the fact it's still around inspiring for a small layout, what if...………….. 

 

 

 

Steve

 

 

[Geep7]

If I recall from previous conversations on here, there was (or still is) a Blue Circle yard at Poole.

 

The was also a couple of sidings at Hayes (WR) on the up side which were at least in use until the late 80's. I have a photo (taken by my Dad) of a couple of VTG ferrywagons in the sidings.

[HillsideDepot]

The "Ratio kit" building also got my attention when I visited Wroxham on holiday in July. Here is a closer picture, taken through the fence of the Bure Valley platform.

[sb67]

That's a better pic Adrian, thanks for posting. I wondered if you could get closer to it but I think it is in a yard that was closed when I was there, didn't have too much time to investigate.

Steve.

Edited August 29, 2019 by sb67

[montyburns56]

I've found a couple of Wroxham showing the yard, including one that shows it being shunted in 1983.

 

 

 

 

 

[Nearholmer]

The crescendo of shunt-signals is particularly good.

[russ p]

Those brakevans in the second picture were there until not very long ago 

 

[stivesnick]

Another possible model goods branch that is still around.

 

The Heathfield Branch in Devon had a range of traffics in the Speedlink era with a number of sidings on the line. At Heathfield itself, the end of the line post Beeching, the disused station had a loop with a double ended siding for china clay traffic. Beyond the station there was an extended headshunt with a back siding serving a oil terminal.

 

 Freight Only yearbook vol 1 (Rhodes and Shannon) has a picture on the branch from 1989 -Class 37 with assorted china clay wagons. 

 

More recently, the line was used for timber loading.

 

Regards 

 

Nick

[sb67]

2 hours ago, montyburns56 said:

I've found a couple of Wroxham showing the yard, including one that shows it being shunted in 1983.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Great photo's montyburns56. In the second photo it doesn't look like it's been used for a while and there's no sign of the concrete store, or is it just behind the brake vans, I wonder how and why that got there?

Steve.

Edited August 29, 2019 by sb67

[Nearholmer]

Just struck me: did anyone mention Hemyock yet?

 

Small and quaint, if a tad specialised.

 

Some diesel-era photos in here http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/the-hemyock-branch.html

 

And more here http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/diesel-railtours-in-cornwall--devon.html

[31A]

3 hours ago, russ p said:

Those brakevans in the second picture were there until not very long ago 

 

 

Wroxham brake vans in August 2008:

 

 

[Rivercider]

On 28/08/2019 at 20:56, sb67 said:

I was in Wroxham, Norfolk last week and took these pics of what used to be the old goods yard. I wonder if anybody could point me in the right direction of any pics or info of when it was in use? I did a google search and didn't find too much.

Also the concrete hut looks the same type as the ratio kit, assuming it's still in it's original place, does anyone know when that was still being used and would the small platform have been rail side?

I find the fact it's still around inspiring for a small layout, what if...………….. 

 

Steve

 

 

I can not answer the questions about when the yard went out of use, but it was receiving fertiliser in the late 1970s. One amusing incident comes to mind.

Back in 1978 when I was in Bristol TOPS the ICI works at Severnside was dispatching large quantities of bagged fertiliser in vanfits to various locations including Wroxham. On one occasion a consignment of 10 vanfits was incorrectly released with the wrong TOPS code, and went to Wrexham! 

 

cheers

[montyburns56]

21 hours ago, Nearholmer said:

Just struck me: did anyone mention Hemyock yet?

 

Small and quaint, if a tad specialised.

 

Some diesel-era photos in here http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/the-hemyock-branch.html

 

And more here http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/diesel-railtours-in-cornwall--devon.html

 

I was struggling to find any pics of it in the 70s until I came across this beauty...

 

 

[montyburns56]

On 29/08/2019 at 20:32, stivesnick said:

Another possible model goods branch that is still around.

 

The Heathfield Branch in Devon had a range of traffics in the Speedlink era with a number of sidings on the line. At Heathfield itself, the end of the line post Beeching, the disused station had a loop with a double ended siding for china clay traffic. Beyond the station there was an extended headshunt with a back siding serving a oil terminal.

 

 Freight Only yearbook vol 1 (Rhodes and Shannon) has a picture on the branch from 1989 -Class 37 with assorted china clay wagons. 

 

More recently, the line was used for timber loading.

 

Regards 

 

Nick

 

Yeah, there is a thread dedicated to it here.

 

 

 

Also there are some wonderful pictures here of it in the late 80s with a Railfreight Grey 50 pulling a load of Speedlink VDAs!

 

http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/mortonhampstead-and-teign-valley-branch.html#

 

 

Edited August 30, 2019 by montyburns56

[montyburns56]

21 hours ago, 31A said:

 

Wroxham brake vans in August 2008:

 

 

 

Someone needs to make a diorama of that little scene!

 

[Rugd1022]

1 hour ago, montyburns56 said:

 

I was struggling to find any pics of it in the 70s until I came across this beauty...

 

 

 

Absolutely lovely! Can date it to between October '71 when the first 25s arrived down west and early part of '74 when most had been renumbered into TOPS 

[Nearholmer]

And, a clean(ish) St Ivel wagon!

 

I used to see them at Clapham/Vauxhall/Waterloo, tripped by an 08/09, and splashed-out on a Wrenn loco and several tank-wagons c1976 as a result.

[montyburns56]

5 minutes ago, Rugd1022 said:

 

Absolutely lovely! Can date it to between October '71 when the first 25s arrived down west and early part of '74 when most had been renumbered into TOPS 

 

Spot on, it says  it is 7656?? in March 74 in the caption.

[spamcan61]

On 21/08/2019 at 20:35, Tim V said:

So this has gone? There were also estates of empty housing like this.

 

 

Blimey ... flashbacks... back in '87 I was living with a woman in Brayford Avenue, just round the corner from here. Keep meaning to go back and see what it's like now.

Edited September 1, 2019 by spamcan61

[Ramblin Rich]

2 hours ago, montyburns56 said:

 

I was struggling to find any pics of it in the 70s until I came across this beauty...

 

 

Very nice, as Nearholmer says, clean milk tank, but also a mineral wagon far right. Was there still coal delivered to the dairy or for domestic use?

2 hours ago, montyburns56 said:

 

Yeah, there is a thread dedicated to it here.

 

 

 

Also there are some wonderful pictures here of it in the late 80s with a Railfreight Grey 50 pulling a load of Speedlink VDAs!

 

http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/mortonhampstead-and-teign-valley-branch.html#

 

 

I hadn't seen those CRS pictures before, answers a few questions about latter day Heathfield traffic. I had no idea about the Ambrosia trial! And I can't make out what the 'sheeted hopper' from the Newton Abbot Clays siding actually is, possibly an HEA? Anyone got an idea?