RMweb Premium Popular Post jamie92208 Posted June 24, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) Good morning from a sunny Charente. I've managed to find a few more from the early 80's so here goes. We start in mid 1983 and first up I think is taken at Knottingley with a 56 heading south on the S & K though I would be happy to be corrected. Next up, I must have had a trip out to London and here is a rare beast, the Class 210 DEMU that unfortunately never went into series production. Here coming in to Paddington. Next we move into 1984 and another 56, I think on the East Coast Main Line north of York though it could have been near Burton Salmon. We had our first foreign holiday with the kids that year and stayed in a tent at Quiberon in southern Brittany. There was a branch line down the peninsula. Believe it or not some of this class are still in service. I will start another thread of European photos when I get to scan my main collection. However there is a railway connection. We used the Weymouth to Cherbourg ferry and here is a railway owned Sealink ferry at Cherbourg before we sailed home. I'm not sure whether the magnificent ocean terminal that you can see in the background is still there. All being well some more tomorrow. Jamie Edited August 3, 2022 by jamie92208 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted June 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 24, 2020 50 minutes ago, jamie92208 said: Good morning from a sunny Charente. I've managed to find a few more from the early 80's so here goes. We start in mid 1983 and first up I think is taken at Knottingley with a 56 heading south on the S & K though I would be happy to be corrected. Next up, I must have had a trip out to London and here is a rare beast, the Class 210 DEMU that unfortunately never went into series production. Here coming in to Paddington. Next we move into 1984 and another 56, I think on the East Coast Main Line north of York though it could have been near Burton Salmon. We had our first foreign holiday with the kids that year and stayed in a tent at Quiberon in southern Brittany. There was a branch line down the peninsula. Believe it or not some of this class are still in service. I will start another thread of European photos when I get to scan my main collection. However there is a railway connection. We used the Weymouth to Cherbourg ferry and here is a railway owned Sealink ferry at Cherbourg before we sailed home. I'm not sure whether the magnificent ocean terminal that you can see in the background is still there. All being well some more tomorrow. Jamie The ocean terminal is still there - converted into an aquarium and sea museum with a nuclear submarine attached. Really enjoying these photos!!! Cheers Darius 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post jamie92208 Posted June 25, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) A late good morning to all. A visit to have my locks trimmed by the fair Veronique has delayed things. Anyway we are still in 1984. I didn't have much chance to take railway photos for various family reasons which resolved themselves in November when our daughter arrived. However I did manage a trip out, probably with the boys to Tinsley. This photo was taken. Quite an eclectic collection, a class 13, a steam loco tender and an old style tank wagon together with a 56. Then we move on to 1985 and the boys were both off school with chicken pox so we had a family outing to Beamish. Social distancing wasn't a problem as I remember it as being nearly deserted. This was in steam however. And some shunting was taking place. The trams were running. A good day out was had by all. Probably March 1985. Life was busy as I had just got promoted to Bradford and the miners strike was still going. However that came to and end in 85 but we went on holiday to Bournemouth and obviously the kids needed some train action. This was at Boscombe. Hopefully some more in a couple of days. Jamie Edited August 3, 2022 by jamie92208 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post jamie92208 Posted June 28, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2020 (edited) Good evening all from a damp and dark Charente. I've done quite a bit of scanning over the past two days. We have now moved onto 1985 and we went out for a family walk alongside the Rochdale Canal which was in the course of restoration. We did a lot of these sometimes by train to the start sometimes by car but always by train from the end back to the start. We are here at Mytholmroyd. The boys watch the unit depart whilst Beth and Rachel sit it out. Rachel would be about 6 months and travelled on my back on the walks. Whilst the kids were young I couldn't work on my layout in the loft above their bedrooms so did some ship modelling. I decided to built a 1/96th scale model of a WW1 super dreadnought HMS Conqueror. I discovered that the shipbuilders model of it was in storage at the Maritime Museum's store near Greenwich. They allowed me to go an photograph it. at 12' long the 1/48th model was impressive if needing a little tlc. I believe that the model has now had some tlc and is on public display. In Mid 1987 we had a trip to Blackpool and saw a few trams. Centenary double decker 762 was in service. It's now preserved at Crich. I did get a couple of models built including this one of the large tug, Smit London I met another warship modeller at Leicester one day and we sailed our models on the local lake, His was another WW1 dreadnought HMS Neptune. My own part completed model of Conqueror and the model of the tug were brought down from the loft before we moved to France and sold on Ebay, at least they are in good hands. Jamie Edited August 3, 2022 by jamie92208 22 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Turnbull Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 It's bad enough carting some of my American gauge one stuff about. Ship models must be even worse! Chris Turnbull Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted June 29, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Chris Turnbull said: It's bad enough carting some of my American gauge one stuff about. Ship models must be even worse! Chris Turnbull Yes, the hull for Conqueror was the size of a small canoe. What I got made was a wooden plug for the hull with cardboard plating ready for a fibreglass mould to be made that the proper hull could be cast from. A guy from near Northampton bought it and is completeing the model. We met at Doncaster to transfer it. By chance he knew the guy who made the Model of Neptune. Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted July 1, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) Good morning. Much scanning has been done over the past few days so here are a few more. The Tardis is now in 1987 and we start near Mill Lane, Bradford with a rather poor shot of the Royal Train with, IIRC, Prince Charles on board heading down into the interchange. No that wasn't my personal transport parked up. The neg got slightly damaged in the file pocket. Next we have a rather better shot of the loco when it was running round. A few years later Mrs Thatcher herself got one of her 3 railway journeys, heading backwards out of the Interchange in the rear cab of a DMU, but that's a story for another time. Next we have a 142 in Regional Railways livery outside The Plant at Doncaster. Probably late January 87. I must have been on a day out as the next shot was at York with a colourful combination. I did like the red and cream Metro colours. The last shot today isn't directly railway related however there is a strong connection. My minister and friend Jim Crompton and I had been entrusted with looking after the kids whilst our wives went to London for a day out. My three are the 1st, 3rd and 4th from the left. We had gone by train over the S & C and were having our picnic in the gardens between Carlisle Castle and the railway. This is where I was pushed in a pram aged less than 9 months, by my father who noted down which Duchesses he saw in 1952/53. The sound of them to my young ears must have been hard wired into my youthful brain. From my Dad's notebook I even know which locos passed us. In 1987 we came back via Shap and Preston and the train was so packed that we ended up in the luggage cage in the brake van. More tomorrow. Jamie Edited August 3, 2022 by jamie92208 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Turnbull Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 2 hours ago, jamie92208 said: The sound of them to my young ears must have been hard wired into my youthful brain. I am of a similar vintage to you and can also recall many hours by the railway line at Beetons Way crossing at Bury St Edmunds with my mother. Inexplicably, she did not take any numbers but I'm pretty sure that there were no Duchesses! Chris Turnbull 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted July 1, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Chris Turnbull said: I am of a similar vintage to you and can also recall many hours by the railway line at Beetons Way crossing at Bury St Edmunds with my mother. Inexplicably, she did not take any numbers but I'm pretty sure that there were no Duchesses! Chris Turnbull That sounds good. Fortunately my Dad was a spotter and recorder and I have inherited his trainspotting diaries and journey logs. Thus I know which Duchesses I saw during a picnic where the M6 now is in the Lune gorge when I was 6. Happy days. Jamie 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted July 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 1, 2020 2 hours ago, jamie92208 said: That sounds good. Fortunately my Dad was a spotter and recorder and I have inherited his trainspotting diaries and journey logs. Thus I know which Duchesses I saw during a picnic where the M6 now is in the Lune gorge when I was 6. Happy days. Jamie Ah,but, the rule is you can't count them unless you wrote them down! Mike. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owd Bob Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 I saw a class 86 on an 'Avengers' episode once on T.V.and then underlined it in my ABC 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post jamie92208 Posted July 2, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) Good afternoon from a cloudy Charente. I've got a few more offerings. We start on what I am fairly certain was 4th March 1987 at a very cool Horbury Junction. I'd dropped Rachel off at school nearby and went down to photograph a royal working. I got there just as the grubbiest 47 I've ever seen was pulling the train off the Crigglestone branch where it had stabled overnight. The very grubby loco was swiftly replaced with a rather cleaner one shown here. The occupant was Princess Diana one her way to engagements in Leeds and Saltaire. What she thought about spending the night looking at the delights of Crigglestone lagoons and British Oak Coal Staithes is not recorded. None of my colleagues reported bumping into her in the Mosh pit at Rooftop Gardens in Wakefield that night. 1 Anyway it set off as a 141 approached and a 31 hauled freight can be seen in the background. Soon after this the junction was taken up and the Crigglestone branch could only be accessed from the Barnsley end. Next we are still in March and it's now the 21st and 5593 Kolhapur was in Leeds waiting to take a northbound Cumbrian Mountain Express. I thin the Peak had just come off the inbound working. She made a fine sight as she set off towards Carlisle. Hopefully some more tomorrow. Jamie Edited August 3, 2022 by jamie92208 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post jamie92208 Posted July 4, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) Good morning from the Charente. We are now into April 1987 and the next railway picture I took was this one. Princess Elizabeth heading up the bank towards Morley Tunnel.. It has just crossed the A643, Churwell Hill and is close to where the new White Rose Centre station is to be built. According to Six Bells Junction, it was working The White Rose, that had originated at Kings Cross, was steam hauled from Leeds to Stockport and eventually ended up back at Euston. We then go a week forward to Easter Saturday 18th April. The preliminary works for the ECML electrification had reached Leeds and that weekend the bridge over Geldard Road (A62) was replaced and Geldard Road junction was taken out of use. I had heard that Kolhapur would be working south from Carlisle and so on the Saturday evening headed down to Holbeck to see it being serviced after it's southbound run. Leaning over the wall on Nineveh Road I met a guy who became a very good friend, the late Cliff Sheard who was at the time Chairman of the Wakefield Railway Modellers Society. Anyway after seeing the loco on shed we went down to Geldard Road as it was going to head that way back to Birmingham with it's support coach. I managed to get this photo. The road had just been closed and various cranes and other gear can be seen. The evening sun just picked out the loco on the bridge. I was working nights over the weekend so for the next few few days I went past the bridge on my way too and from work along with an afternoon visit or two to record progress. By Sunday morning demolition was well under way. and that afternoon the old bridge girders were down. Pre cast new abutments were fitted. I suppose that this view along the A 62 hadn't been seen since the bridge was built in the 19th Century. The new bridge had been built in two sections in the car park of the Coop dairy social club at the side of the line. Apparently the position of the crane dictated the positioning of all the other work. Here is a slightly blurred photo of the first section being lifted early Monday morning. By Monday afternoon the second section was going in. My 3 yr old s younger son got to sit in the crane cab at one point. All done in under 3 days and the line re-opened to traffic on Tuesday morning for the first trains to London. Taking out Geldard Road junction left the old LNWR viaduct line as the most expensive cable route in Leeds. For a few years the first few hundred yards of track from the Leeds end was left in situ and even electrified as a stabling siding for class 91's and Mk 4 sets before the route to Neville Hill was wired. It even had an old brake van as a form of buffer stop, roughly above Domestic Street. It was finally taken out of use during the rebuilding of Leeds in 2000. As an aside Kolhapur was the last loco to run over the old bridge. It sounded and looked lovely in the warm evening sun. To date the photo I've been in touch with Bob Meanley at Tyseley who has told me that he remembers the run well at they got a hot box approaching Derby and had to leave the loco there for a few days before finally getting it home. Jamie Edited August 3, 2022 by jamie92208 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 That photo of the old steam tender at tinsley, I cant remember if it was used as the sludge carrier or the load bank. I think it was the former. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted July 4, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 4, 2020 2 hours ago, cheesysmith said: That photo of the old steam tender at tinsley, I cant remember if it was used as the sludge carrier or the load bank. I think it was the former. Sludge carrier rings a bell with me. I think I've seen those words in several places about old steam tenders. I think that several ofvthem have endedvup on preserved locos today. Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted July 5, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) Good morning all. First off a shot taken at Lakeside, we are still in 1987 but the boats were built for IIRC the LMS and launched down a broad gauge railway after being put together. This is I think Swift which was out of service and was a sort of museum about speed records and the Campbells. Then we move onto July and a trip to the Crewe Works open day with my sons, plus a friend and his sons. Ted is seen cabbing the Fiery Duke with the kids. Then a photo of what was labelled as 87201. I wish I'd taken a photo of the works label. Obviously this became 90001. The train back to Manchester was so full two of the boys used a new style of seating in the luggage rack of a Mk3. Please don't tell any of todays designers it might give them ideas. The boys were happy though. Then finally a visit to the Holbeck Triangle and a 142. That view has changed a bit since then. 6 tracks, electrification and no works in the background, the gasholder is now grounded. There is something a tad famous in the background. More tomorrow. Jamie Edited August 3, 2022 by jamie92208 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post jamie92208 Posted July 6, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) Good morning again. Today we are still in 87 in the triangle at Holbeck. I mentioned that something a tad famous was in the background. I suppose it could have been called The Money Pit if Hollywood hadn't pinched that title. Probably early July though I will check. We didn't actually spend the summer in the triangle but have now moved into September and City of Wells is going past. I think it was heading for Keighley. Then I must have gone over to Preston and found the sight of this 86 a little incongruous in the North West rather than the South East. I seem to remember it was the only one in that livery and was used for the Cobbler train to Northampton. Finally a quick trip to Edinburgh, probably in the October half term. 47708 on one of the Edinburgh Glasgow services. Not to forget the DBSO at the other end. They have proved to be a very good investment as I believe several of them are still in use after many different careers. Jamie Edited August 3, 2022 by jamie92208 23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted July 7, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) Good morning again, it looks like it's going to be warm today. However the Tardis has moved overnight to 1988. were on Holiday in deepest west Somerset and had a trip to Lynton and rode the unique water powered cliff lift. And another shot of a uniquely carbon neutral form of transport. Next a trip to Crewe and a wide variety of motive power. A brand new 87/2 now called class 90 on test. These are probably in June. However there were some older forms of traction around. The 37/4's are proving to be very long lived and rather useful. And they even allowed a Doncaster built loco into the area. One of the last ones to be built but the hoped for export orders never came. More tomorrow. Jamie Edited August 3, 2022 by jamie92208 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted July 9, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) Good morning, a few more from 88. We are still at Crew and an 87 came through. I did like that livery. Then a nice meeting, a new 90 and a new 91 on test. The 91 very obvious by the roaring of the blowers. There can't be too many photos of them on the WCML. Then a DMU, I think it's a 151 which I think was a prototype. I thought it was quite a nice looking design. Does anyone know what became of these. We now move on to early 1989. These may well have been taken between Christmas 88 and New Year. I think that they were all at Ferrybridge but am not certain. The cooling towers in the last one look like the old B station that later became the site of the National Power rail operation. First a pair of 37 head south. T If anyone can help to confirm the location I would be grateful. I can now state that this is at Wakefield with the line to the Cobra terminal in the foreground. Jamie Edited August 3, 2022 by jamie92208 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray M Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Looks like the class 47 pic is at Wakefield Kirkgate, with the line dropping down to the right, going into the Cobra terminal. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted July 9, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Ray M said: Looks like the class 47 pic is at Wakefield Kirkgate, with the line dropping down to the right, going into the Cobra terminal. Thanks for that Ray, yes it is indeed just by the entrance to Cobra with I think Heath Common as the background. The 37's are obviously heading towards Normanton and the 47 into Kirkgate and probably Healey Mills. Jamie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted July 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 9, 2020 The class 151 was Metro-Cammell's bid for the 'Sprinter' contract. It was evaluated alongside and against the BREL Class 150 (which of course won out). Not sure if it remained in use as a test bed for various things, like the prototype 150s - would maybe depend on whether it remained Met-Camm property. Traintesting.com has a bit about these, but the site seems to be down at the mo'. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted July 9, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, keefer said: The class 151 was Metro-Cammell's bid for the 'Sprinter' contract. It was evaluated alongside and against the BREL Class 150 (which of course won out). Not sure if it remained in use as a test bed for various things, like the prototype 150s - would maybe depend on whether it remained Met-Camm property. Traintesting.com has a bit about these, but the site seems to be down at the mo'. Thanks very much for that. I have a vague memory that it ended up outside the technical centre at Derby but that's depending on my forgettery. Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted July 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 9, 2020 I rode on the Class 151 a couple of times btween Derby and Matlock. It was running as a three car then. IIRC there was some issue with the transmission being suspect as the gear changes were very rough. They only lasted in service for about four or five years before lurking on in store around Derby and Crewe for about 15 years before eventually being scrapped. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 definitely kirkgate, the hill in the centre is Black Hill, the building just to the left of the loco is a canal gate keepers house on the Aire & Calder and up on the left is the Eastmoor estate 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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