animotion Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 I am in the middle of scratch building a GWR goods shed and using Precision paint Dark Stone for the sliding doors. As you can see from the image the paint is not matt but gloss although it says matt on the tin. I gave the paint a good stir before I applied it to the door. The GWR may have used a gloss paint when new but I suspect it lost its gloss after a few years. I have read that you can add talcum powder to paint to make it matt. I would like to know if any other modellers have experienced this and what their solution was or is it just a question of buying another can of paint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 I had this with their Matt black, stayed shiny, and don’t set well. I think I’ll just use another supplier . Not impressed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 I've never got on well with their paints either, tending to use Railmatch for enamel. Virtually everything I make gets a top coat of the relevant varnish anyway, so the paint finish isn't too important to me. Jo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 stir it some more, and then stir again. All matt paints have a fine powder in them to make them matt, it settles out. Likewise diluting them too much with thinners will increase the gloss level. VERY thorough mixing will be required. 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAndy Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Hmmm. I've had this issue with Precision paints as well recently. I think everyone is stating that they're mixing thoroughly and shaking/agitating the tins for several minutes prior to use. I have got a Matt Black, supposedly, in both small and large sizes - they both finish extremely glossy, even without adding any thinners - not impressed either. Railmatch enamels seem to be far superior but it used to be the other way round. Wondering if Precision have altered the ingredients at some point, to maybe comply better with sending enamels through the post.......don't know. Cheers Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted December 16, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2020 Which is why they sell this; https://www.phoenix-paints.co.uk/products/14pq14 Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted January 7, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2021 I've got at least a dozen different Precision paints. I've not had an issue with any of the matt ones, so it's not symptomatic of their range. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekl Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 I suspect this is a result of insufficient stirring, as others have suggested above. I devised a paddle type stirrer which goes into a very small (12v) controllable electric drill. It amounts to a length of brass tube with a thin flat piece soldered against the end. The "paddles" are slightly twisted so that in normal direction of use they tend to push the paint down. Seems to work well and requires half a minute or so mixing but you need to take care with the drill speed if you don't want a mess! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernBlue80s Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 I have found the real problem colour is Black. I have had a fair few tins from various manufacturers that have turned gloss. However I will give the stir it very very thoroughly method a go. Instead of my usual just quite a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted January 17, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 17, 2021 I give mine a good shake.... The tinlet gets strapped into the cradle and given a minutes worth of good vibrations. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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