Wagons of the filthy variety - A Problem

[westernviscount]

A couple of pics of wagons I have been working on, playing around with some processes. 

The end metal bracing treated with powders fixed with matt varnish, left todry then painted over with acrylic brown. Attacked with white spirit and a cocktail stick. 

 

Empty conflat using dry brush wood coloutlrs on a black ground.

A parkside 13t open and BD container with more powders fixed with varnish, painted over with acrylic and attacked with white spirit. 

More acrylic over enamel paint, this time scrubbed with a fibre brush. 

[enginelane]

Very nice effects 

[heavymetalwagons]

Inspired me to have a try. Spot on weathering 

[westernviscount]

More pics of the lms ratio kits after transfers (railtec)

[Enterprisingwestern]

14 hours ago, westernviscount said:

More pics of the lms ratio kits after transfers (railtec)

 

Ahem, 750349 is a diagram 1/200 plywood van.

An easy mistake to make, guess how I know?!, I've been through all my BR wagon transfers and sorted them out, it's interesting to find out how wrong a lot of the ModelMaster/Parkside ones are, some aren't even the correct number series for the wagon.

 

Mike.

[Dieselbob]

On 05/05/2021 at 20:20, westernviscount said:

The end metal bracing treated with powders fixed with matt varnish, left todry then painted over with acrylic brown. Attacked with white spirit and a cocktail stick. 

I Love the effect, do you let the acrylic dry before the white spirit attack.

Bob

[westernviscount]

13 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

Ahem, 750349 is a diagram 1/200 plywood van.

An easy mistake to make, guess how I know?!, I've been through all my BR wagon transfers and sorted them out, it's interesting to find out how wrong a lot of the ModelMaster/Parkside ones are, some aren't even the correct number series for the wagon.

 

Mike.

Well spotted Mike. I must say there are several wagons and brakes in my fleet which are incorrect. I cant blame modelmaster for this as I tend to go with what looks right for me. Impatience to complete often takes precedence over accuracy for me, which I certainly dont think is the correct approach!!!!

[westernviscount]

9 hours ago, Dieselbob said:

I Love the effect, do you let the acrylic dry before the white spirit attack.

Bob

Hi Bob. I tend to let it dry to the touch, which with acrylic is pretty rapid. I probably go over with the white spirit within an hour. 

[hmrspaul]

15 hours ago, westernviscount said:

Well spotted Mike. I must say there are several wagons and brakes in my fleet which are incorrect. I cant blame modelmaster for this as I tend to go with what looks right for me. Impatience to complete often takes precedence over accuracy for me, which I certainly dont think is the correct approach!!!!

It only needs the zero altered to 1 for it to be suitable. Easy, unlike the first posting which uses the number from a shock van. 

 

Paul

[westernviscount]

A couple more older examples for those who are interested. 

Previously posted pic. A walrus sprayed matt black, streaked with powders and a flat brush and hit with the slightest wiff of matt varnish spray. 

More powders and decalfix

Heavy powders and decalfix. 

A mix of techniques using enamel paints for the planks and powders and decalfix for metal ends. 

[westernviscount]

A couple more older pics.

Dogfish using powders on matt finish black.

A couple of conflats and..

A close up of the floor using enamel paints. Wood colours dry brushed onto tacky black. 

 

[Enterprisingwestern]

 

Very nice, keep them coming, can't have too much wagonry IMHO!

 

Mike.

[westernviscount]

A trace of oxidization. 

[westernviscount]

[Enterprisingwestern]

 

When you can go in that close and it still looks good, then that's cracking weathering IMHO.

 

Mike.

PS. How many mineral wagons would you like to do?!!

[westernviscount]

7 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

When you can go in that close and it still looks good, then that's cracking weathering IMHO.

 

Mike.

PS. How many mineral wagons would you like to do?!!

Thanks Mike, I was happy we these although they might be just on the right side of "over the top"

 

Ha ha, well i suppose with careful planning, a few of these could be done relatively quickly, particularly in the absence of an airbrush!!! 

[westernviscount]

Another rusty one from the archive I just dug out. 

[SouthernBlue80s]

Very well observed weathering.

How did you achieve the flaking paint effect?

 

[westernviscount]

15 hours ago, SouthernBlue80s said:

Very well observed weathering.

How did you achieve the flaking paint effect?

 

Hi southern. I had already painted the wagon to ex-works condition before I started the weathering. 

 

I painted matt varnish onto a section of the body side. Whilst still wet, rust coloured pigments by carr's or humbrol were brushed into the varnish. Depending on how much powder I use, a slight texture can be created. Once the whole wagon is treated this way, the varnish is allowed to dry. 

 

Next, humbrol maskol was applied with a torn up scouring sponge (the green bit on a washing up sponge) to attempt a random rust spot placement. 

 

Once set, ACRYLIC grey was painted over the powders and maskol to represent the original paint work. Acrylic is used, as it reacts best during the next stage. 

 

Once the acrylic has dried, the maskol was peeled away and white spirit washed over the sides. This reacted with the paint to encourage more flaking and reactivated the powders, in some areas allowing them to bleed through small chips in the paint. Small scratched and chips can be made with a cocktail stick.  Further streaking was encouraged with a brush.

 

As ever, try on a non-precious model. 

 

Cheers

Edited June 13, 2021 by westernviscount

[Mark C]

On 05/05/2021 at 20:20, westernviscount said:

A couple of pics of wagons I have been working on, playing around with some processes. 

The end metal bracing treated with powders fixed with matt varnish, left todry then painted over with acrylic brown. Attacked with white spirit and a cocktail stick. 

 

Empty conflat using dry brush wood coloutlrs on a black ground.

A parkside 13t open and BD container with more powders fixed with varnish, painted over with acrylic and attacked with white spirit. 

More acrylic over enamel paint, this time scrubbed with a fibre brush. 

I do like your treatment of the van's steel ends!  For the (Southern-style?) van which acrylic did you use to get that subtle difference to the enamel paint?

 

Mark

[westernviscount]

2 hours ago, Mark C said:

I do like your treatment of the van's steel ends!  For the (Southern-style?) van which acrylic did you use to get that subtle difference to the enamel paint?

Good question Mike. I just had to dig out the wagon to jog my memory as I often mix up techniques.

 

What I can see is that I did this wagon when I was still using grey primer instead of my prefered halfords red. Whether this has an effect I dont know. 

 

The wagon was painted in humbrol satin 133 which is a decent bauxite colour in it's own right. Tamiya nato brown was thinly painted over, allowed to dry and then scrubbed away. I think I must have also used a bit of white spirit to rub away the acrylic. 

 

Perhaps a dry brushing of enamel wood colours before the acrylic top coat might add to the distressed paint on plywood effect. 

 

Hope this helps

 

 

[Mark C]

On 21/06/2021 at 19:27, westernviscount said:

Good question Mike. I just had to dig out the wagon to jog my memory as I often mix up techniques.

 

What I can see is that I did this wagon when I was still using grey primer instead of my prefered halfords red. Whether this has an effect I dont know. 

 

The wagon was painted in humbrol satin 133 which is a decent bauxite colour in it's own right. Tamiya nato brown was thinly painted over, allowed to dry and then scrubbed away. I think I must have also used a bit of white spirit to rub away the acrylic. 

 

Perhaps a dry brushing of enamel wood colours before the acrylic top coat might add to the distressed paint on plywood effect. 

 

Hope this helps

 

 

Hello, yes that's very helpful - thanks.  I've just added both paints to my current Hannants order.

 

Regards

Mark

[westernviscount]

1 hour ago, Mark C said:

Hello, yes that's very helpful - thanks.  I've just added both paints to my current Hannants order.

 

Regards

Mark

No bother Mark, feel free to post the results of your experiments! 

[westernviscount]

One or two more from the archive...

A meat van treated as described above using acrylic over enamel paint

A van treated entirely using weathering powders in a decalfic wash, additional powders on top for heavier areas and some hand written chalk markings using a white pencil.

An open using dry brushed enamel pqints with a light enamel wash of dirt. End braces are treated with the powders into matt varnish technique to suggest a rusted/flakey finish. 

[westernviscount]

A couple more...

A cambrian starfish weathered with powders and fixed with humbrol acrylic matt spray. Yes...shiny buffer shanks! My mistake. 

A partial near miss. Parkside 24.5t weathered with the maskol technique. I am disatisfied with this as it looks a bit too regular and out of scale...basically it looks like how I did it!

And a deviation from wagonry. A cameo project weathered with powders onto a matt varnished surface unfixed as it won't be handled. Fixing deadens the colour of the powders and I was happy with the brake dust/grime around the guard's door and battery box (even though will never be seen). The open doors are lightly weathered with a wash and chalk markings suggested on the blackboards with a white pencil.