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Hello

 

I would like to nominate the 2 and 3 coach class 175.

 

It's been around 15 years now and has had a few livery variations in that time and judging by the rest of the Arriva DMU's fleet it's due for a new one anytime soon.

 

I can't think of another modern DMU that's been around for that long but never had a look in when it comes to modelling?

 

 

Matt

 

Class 180, 222, 185.... 

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The 180 and 175 can (probably) share chassis but I could have sworn the body sides are slightly different?

 

Anyhow, I agree we definitely need 175 and 175/1 units.

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The 222 would be a risk.. Only one livery and with Bachmann already doing the Virgin voyager, surely if it was worth it they would have released it by now.

 

The 185 looks good, though that livery in a hole is very rare in all scales?

 

The 180 looks more less the same has a 175, just different nose?

Says the run in fixed 5 car rakes? Wouldn't be cheap and big layouts would be required? Though with the different livery choices I can see why people would like it.

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222 is three liveries actually! But I agree - Bachmann announced one in N a few years ago but pulled out because the differences were too significant to the existing Voyager.

 

I'm not that knowledgeable of the differences between 175s and 180s but they do look very similar aside from the nose.

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Talking of 180's.......

 

 

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I think the 2-car 175's are two different window arrangements, so that's two toolings - and then a third if doing a 3 car. (Charlie loves 2 cars with identical (or as near as possible) body shells.)

 

They do share a lot of common features with a 180 - but even the 5-car 180 (I think) has four different shells.

 

 

 

Cheers,

Mick

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To be honest I've never seen a mould before so don't really understand how they work.

 

Suppose idealy you would have one main mould with inserts that you can slide in to produce different window arrangements?

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Mick, not sure that's correct, a very cursory look* suggests that 175 driving cars are cab door, passenger door, 8 big windows, passenger door (and v.v.) on both sides of both vehicles?

Similarly the 180 driving cars appear to be the same layout of doors and windows as each other (cabside window, cab door, 7 big windows, passenger door), and the inner cars of both classes are the same basic format (door, 8 big windows, door) assuming there's nothing subtle like tumblehome differences or window/door spacings*?

Neither type appears to have randomly placed toilet or small windows, or in the case of the 180 special windows for the catering section, which is the kind of thing that usually complicates things.

(*Don't know if there's anyone with accurate plans/measurements that can make sure of that - but the cursory look suggests to me that 3 shells could do the 2x 175, the 3x 175 and the 5x 180.)

 

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Mick, not sure that's correct, a very cursory look* suggests that 175 driving cars are cab door, passenger door, 8 big windows, passenger door (and v.v.) on both sides of both vehicles?

 

Similarly the 180 driving cars appear to be the same layout of doors and windows as each other (cabside window, cab door, 7 big windows, passenger door), and the inner cars of both classes are the same basic format (door, 8 big windows, door) assuming there's nothing subtle like tumblehome differences or window/door spacings*?

 

Neither type appears to have randomly placed toilet or small windows, or in the case of the 180 special windows for the catering section, which is the kind of thing that usually complicates things.

 

(*Don't know if there's anyone with accurate plans/measurements that can make sure of that - but the cursory look suggests to me that 3 shells could do the 2x 175, the 3x 175 and the 5x 180.)

 

 

 

 Hi Martyn,

 I think you are correct - I didn't even have a cursory glance....... :blush:  :blush:  :blush:

 

Serves me right for listening to Charlie...........

 

Cheers,

Mick  

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Despite all the difficulties of making a 180, i would have money on the table for one in northern rail livery.

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I would like a Class 180 in OO gauge and I would gladly buy the First Hull Trains and the Grand Central ones. Failing that, I wonder how popular the Class 334 "Juniper" in SPT and Saltire liveries would be?

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If you ever fancy shrinking down to N I'd love a 180...

 

*ducks and runs*

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Suggestions...? How about a Class 86, Class 142 or Class 156

Useful Suggestions, thank you.

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I would suggest some aggregate hopper wagons, such as the JHA's, as then there could be multiple liveries, such as Hanson, FY, ARC, National Power, 

 

 

regards

Darryl

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I would suggest some aggregate hopper wagons, such as the JHA's, as then there could be multiple liveries, such as Hanson, FY, ARC, National Power, 

 

 

regards

Darryl

 

Perfect for the upcoming Dapol 59.........................

 

Cheers,

Mick

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Indeed Mick, but not perfect for my wallet...

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It has to be a Class 175, a common sight for many a year now and not even close to being able to have one trundling to Holyhead via many laps of the garage layout.

 

Benjamin

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I would suggest some aggregate hopper wagons, such as the JHA's, as then there could be multiple liveries, such as Hanson, FY, ARC, National Power, 

 

 

regards

Darryl

 

Indeed and the under frame for them would equally suit the JXA, to replace the long gone Appleby version.

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I agree with the 175/180 idea, three bodyshells, 175 cab, 180 cab and then the centre cars. 

 

Plenty of liveries.

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Add me to the class 175 /180 and a full range of MK3 coaches.

Great idea, Mk3 Coaches.     Look into that.   Charlie

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Charlie,

 

A Pennines grafter please, 4 car class 123 or 124 or both please, coming from Leeds you must have sampled them on a few occasions. Would make a great model. I can hear the rasp from the exhausts now...

 

Cheers

 

Dave

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Charlie,

 

A Pennines grafter please, 4 car class 123 or 124 or both please, coming from Leeds you must have sampled them on a few occasions. Would make a great model. I can hear the rasp from the exhausts now...

 

Cheers

 

Dave

Over Woodhead too!   on Diversions.  Charlie

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A Class 180 is certainly a train I would invest in as I would buy two! ;). Also it will add something new and different to the OO gauge market in the process.

 

If you plan to do an EMU's. Could we have a Class 319/321 please? As far as I am aware, the major differences of the two is the driving end cars as the inner trail cars are identical or very close. The Class 319 however is a dual mode EMU as they worked the Thameslink Bedford to Brighton services. Although its most 377's now, the remaining Class 319's in London do show up on the Brighton-Bedford workings at times when not working the Blackfriars-Sutton duties. I strongly think the Class 319/321 EMU model train packs would make a good seller on the market too :).

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