class29returns Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 New ones in stock at Hattons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbb Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 .....and Rails Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 still waiting for the BR Blue version with TOPS numbers which became 27001 to 27023. Of course there are No prizes for guessing which example I would prefer.... I can't manage 16 but I have done 19 - I got fed up of waiting! kev. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneofFife Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 i do wish Heljan would add cab interior lights like the Bachmann diesels. this would be a nice improvement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 BSYP 5389 in stock at Hattons. Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 (edited) teacup-teacup-teacup-teacup-teacup-teacup-teacup-teacup-teacup-teacup-teacup You won't regret this slice of Fife life... Edited October 20, 2012 by 'CHARD 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Baby Sulzer Porn!!! I've watched that one more than a couple of times Chard. Kev. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 1:20 could almost be Gorebridge or Melrose in a parallel universe! D. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridwatcher Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 A Bruce's masterworks, his Flickr and other stuff is also great!! Decent chap too!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Realise this is a little old but really struggling with this. Does anyone have a nice clear image showing what pipe goes where? The Heljan one is terrible and from what I can find on the web nothing tells me if I should include the air control pipes or which is higher, the main reservoir pipes or the air brake pipes. Thanks in advance! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Thanks, did look on flickr but didn't come across that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Very rare picture (as far as I know) of the cab end doors in use: Neville Hill, Leeds. by cabsaab900, on Flickr 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave777 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Just going from the cab door height, I assume it wasn't possible to actually walk through this and you had to stoop or crawl instead? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mow Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Thanks for posting the image, is there any evidence that the connections were ever used when the locomotives were hauling trains? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the penguin of doom Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Very rare picture (as far as I know) of the cab end doors in use: [/url]Neville Hill, Leeds. by cabsaab900, on Flickr This is an interesting picture, as it would appear to be early/mid sixties due to the Yellow warning panels and also, the caption suggests Neville Hill depot in Leeds..... Thanks for posting. Cheers. Sean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 (edited) Thanks for posting the image, is there any evidence that the connections were ever used when the locomotives were hauling trains? The description given with the picture says ". . . here we see D5371 and D5370 departing from Neville Hill Leeds with a train of empty steel bolsters for Tees Yard 18th April 1962. . . ", so looks like they were active on a train in service. The publisher has also posted a picture of the same thing on Class 25s on the same working, this time on March 21st, 1962. Again, the information given says that the train is departing, not just stabled: Neville Hill East, Leeds. by cabsaab900, on Flickr Edited January 22, 2013 by BR(S) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mow Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 (edited) Thanks for the clarification. +100. Would be an interesting sight on a layout. Edited January 22, 2013 by mow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunmar Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Hi, Have the new batch of 27's got improved lights - very poor on my example! Haven't got round to do anything with them yet - spent the money on a 'sound decoder'! Bill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 (edited) Hi, Have the new batch of 27's got improved lights - very poor on my example! Haven't got round to do anything with them yet - spent the money on a 'sound decoder'! Bill. I can't give you an answer as I don't own a Class 27. However, if you mean they are dim, it's worth bearing in mind that they always were on the prototype (and this wasn't limited to Class 27s), unlike today's LED lights. With all my locos, I turn the lights down to the dimmest CV value settings and I will also disconnect one of the tail lights as only one was used. If you do want them brighter, have you tried changing the lighting CV value upwards? If you are using a Version 4 sound decoder, make sure you follow instructions for doing this, otherwise you can affect other CV values. Edited January 22, 2013 by BR(S) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunmar Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Hi, Your quite right - they were dim! Might just leave well alone, like the idea of just one tail light though! ( do you think anyone would notice? ). Bill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 You'll notice! Not a 27, but 3 x Class 45s with just the one tail light: Peak of perfection? by delticfan, on Flickr However, two can be true to prototype as well!: St. Pancras Stock Variety HR scan by Deepgreen2009, on Flickr 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 When running the push pull trains the 27's had both tail lights lit but generally everything used one tail light up to the mid 80's. Unless you have a pair on a push pull rake I would just light one. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strathyre Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Brian is absolutely right - the working arrangements for the E&G push-pulls stipulated that, unlike normal traffic which required a red light to the rear (to confirm the completeness of the train), they must display two. The 27s (and most other Eastfield allocated diesels for that matter) had individual switches for each lamp, enabling the two reds to be switched on together. This instruction caused an unexpected issue when the 47/7s arrived as they, like all 47s at the time, had one three-position toggle switch which allowed for only one red light to be switched on - the middle position was off, forward or backward switched on only one lamp. The (temporary) fix was to have an oil lamp placed on the bracket opposite the illuminated tail lamp on the loco when propelling, a practice which continued until the switches were altered to illuminate both lamps. It did look a bit odd for a time, the (then) premier and modern sets on the ScR running with an electric and oil lamp at the same time......must admit I preferred the 27s on the job (or any other job for that matter) but it wrecked them, poor wee engines! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbb Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Noticed to-day that Hattons are down to their last few of D5389 in blue, small yellow panels. You know that these will fetch silly prices-like the two tone green ones did - in a year or two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted May 6, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 6, 2013 (edited) Brian is absolutely right - the working arrangements for the E&G push-pulls stipulated that, unlike normal traffic which required a red light to the rear (to confirm the completeness of the train), they must display two. The 27s (and most other Eastfield allocated diesels for that matter) had individual switches for each lamp, enabling the two reds to be switched on together. This instruction caused an unexpected issue when the 47/7s arrived as they, like all 47s at the time, had one three-position toggle switch which allowed for only one red light to be switched on - the middle position was off, forward or backward switched on only one lamp. The (temporary) fix was to have an oil lamp placed on the bracket opposite the illuminated tail lamp on the loco when propelling, a practice which continued until the switches were altered to illuminate both lamps. It did look a bit odd for a time, the (then) premier and modern sets on the ScR running with an electric and oil lamp at the same time......must admit I preferred the 27s on the job (or any other job for that matter) but it wrecked them, poor wee engines! sorry to go slightly OT, but this answers a question from the 'scottish region photos' prototype thread - someone posted a pic of a trailing DBSO with one built-in tail light lit and a separate tail lamp on the other side. (must've been a faulty tail light) EDIT: was in the 'waverley west' layout thread: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/2978-waverley-west/page-32&do=findComment&comment=964539 Edited May 6, 2013 by keefer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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