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Can I throw in a few Irish coaches to this thread, partly as a 'thank you' to Mike Trice for his technique and also perhaps as an encouragement to others to have a go? It's actually easier than painting a normal livery!

 

The Great Northern Railway (Ireland) painted their coaches in a varnished wood livery. The company, which had been taken over by the Governments of the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland in the early 1950s ceased to exist in 1958 and was divided between the two jurisdictions. However, the livery lived on in Northern Ireland until the early 1960s; there are many colour photos of such coaches in Ulster Transport Authority service.

 

These coaches are a mix of scratchbuilt and Worsley Works parts.

 

Cheers and thanks again to Mike Trice,

 

Glover

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On 08/10/2013 at 18:36, MikeTrice said:

Hornby Thompson with some livery modifications.

 

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Sorry to dig up a very old thread, but can you remember (or suggest) the appropriate paint to use to paint out Hornby’s darker red lines between panels?

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This is my Diagram 118 Brake Composite. Built for the Scottish Southern Area, but requisitioned for the Rosehearty branch. It was built as an adaptation when the Ian Kirk kit that I planned to build had the wrong set of parts. 
 

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Ian Kirk D212 sides onto a Hornby donor chassis, ends and roof.  Teak finish is the method used by Ian Rathbone. I used PP Golden Teak mixed with Humbrol 62 as the brown. The colour is a bit on the orange side, next time I will use try PP LNER Teak.  I have two more lined up, a Bill Bedford D114 and a Bill Bedford D144 (which I will make as a D10C).

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Nice job.  I like the light and airy interior you've managed to achieve.  

 

Couple of things, though - I believe the guards handrails should be teak, not black (I know some preserved examples have them black) and you haven't added the rain deflectors above the doors.  They should be teak brown like the cantrail and make a significant different to the appearance of the carriage from this sort of angle.

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My next one is a D114, brass sides and Hornby ends & roof.  Using Ian Rathbone's technique again, but after much experimentation this time I mixed Humbrol 133 and 62 in roughly equal amounts and then added Precision GWR Chocolate until I got the desired degree of brown. Base coat is Precision M&GN Gorse Yellow which is orangey, and gloss. First attempt was too grainy, so started again. Second attempt I think is better. Lining could be better, still getting to grips with the pen.   

 

 

 

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13 hours ago, scratcher said:

There seems to be some debate about the guards handrails colour

 

Backing up what SB says, I'm friends with the LNERCA archivist and they recently took some preserved door metalwork out of store and found it was a darker brown than they had been using up to now.  I can go with that, but I don't believe I've ever seen contemporary evidence of black.

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On 08/11/2020 at 13:44, jwealleans said:

Nice job.  I like the light and airy interior you've managed to achieve.  

 

Couple of things, though - I believe the guards handrails should be teak, not black (I know some preserved examples have them black) and you haven't added the rain deflectors above the doors.  They should be teak brown like the cantrail and make a significant different to the appearance of the carriage from this sort of angle.

 

I went for teak on mine JW

 

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On 14/11/2020 at 18:19, scratcher said:

Thanks Jonathan. There seems to be some debate about the guards handrails colour - see https://www.steve-banks.org/prototype-and-traffic/133-teak-coaches. I'd love to know the definitive answer.  Agree about the rain deflectors; a casualty of using the Hornby roof & ends as a donor. 

At the SVR and through the LNERCA. The conclusion we came to about guards grab handles was they were the saddle colour used on the solebar and canvas strip. Apart from the main passenger door and lock handles which are polished brass. All of the metal work is painted in this saddle colour. 

 

Dont forget the paint would wear off fairly quickly as well and they would end up fairly dark with wear.

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