PGH Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) I particularly enjoyed the 'Octel' operations. Do you have any photos of the old rail served oil installation near Amlwch? No I don't. The siding branched off the Amlwch Line just south of the overbridge shown in photo 8 of Post #196. The photo below is looking south (towards Gaerwen) from that overbridge, the site of the junction being marked with the red arrow. Edited January 12, 2016 by PGH 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnH Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 That's a shame, but many thanks for getting back to me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CF-FZG Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 (edited) Your view of a Cravens DMU in Royton Station is the year after one of these Units went through that wall at the platform end. I was living, (at the grand old age of 11mths), in number 21 when that Craven went through numbers 13/15 If anyone has photos of either the accident or the station area in general around that time, then I'd very much appreciate having a look at them. I'm at the planning stage of a layout in N gauge to encompass Royton Station through Royton Junction with a hidden roundy-roundy with a fiddle yard going behind the scenes. I've found some signal box diagrams by Flyingsignalman in this thread http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/79703-slotted-stop-signals/ but I'm also looking for track layout diagram as things were changing around the mid 60's. Mark. Edited March 9, 2014 by CF-FZG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Nice photos of the Amlwch line... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CF-FZG Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 The Oldham Loop Part One Manchester Victoria to Shaw & Crompton by Jeffrey Wells (Foxline) will serve you well with photos of Royton and a track plan of the station and yard. Thanks, found and ordered Mark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Any more photos of Amlwch line?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGH Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 Any more photos of Amlwch line?? No, if there were I would have posted them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Ok no worries... cheers neil.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PGH Posted March 22, 2014 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2014 (edited) The isolated Holyhead Breakwater Railway was more an industrial railway than part of BR, however it was probably widely known by BR fans as the location of the last two Class 01 shunters - hence its inclusion here. BR took over responsibility for the Holyhead Breakwater from the Ministry of Transport in 1948, and with it the Breakwater Railway which ran the full length of the breakwater, then to the maintenance depot at the former 7ft gauge loco shed, a total distance of approximately 13/4 miles, and a further 1/2 mile to the Breakwater Quarries, where stone for its foundations had been obtained. The quarries had been taken over around the turn of the century (1900) by William Wild & Sons Ltd, who established a brickworks to manufacture firebricks from the silica rock. Wilds also supplied stone for breakwater maintenance. The railway served three main purposes during the BR period: 1. Transport along the breakwater for BR personnel maintaining the breakwater and lighthouse at the seaward end, initially using a Drewry petrol railcar which was later replaced by a Wickham permanent way trolley. 2. Transport of stone from the Breakwater Quarries to maintain the breakwater foundations. 3. Internal shunting at the quarries and brickworks, and also transport of bricks and crushed silica down to the quay at the inland end of the breakwater for shipment by sea. The last two operations were carried out by Wilds using a Peckett 0-4-0ST ordered by the Ministry of Transport in 1934 and supplied to Wilds as part of the contract to supply stone for the breakwater maintenance. When this loco required replacement in 1966 BR supplied (presumably under the terms of the existing contract) ED6, a departmental Fowler 0-4-0DM from the Ditton Sleeper Depot. This was found to be unreliable in service and was soon replaced by D2954 and D2955, later designated Class 01 001/002. The locos were in effect on hire to Wilds and driven by Wilds own driver, but unlike the steam loco, which was kept in a small shed at the brickworks, the diesel locos were stabled in the former 7ft gauge loco shed. [Photo removed] D2955 working in the quarry with an antique 'ship canal' type wooden tip wagon, September 1967. Perhaps one of the most unusual items of rolling stock to be shunted by a BR diesel loco in commercial service. [Photo removed] D2955 was fitted with a length of timber below each buffer beam for use with the timber flat wagons employed for taking stone down to the breakwater [Photo removed] The stone was carried in three sided steel skips placed on these wagons, which were lifted off by the travelling crane on the breakwater and tipped where required [Photo removed] Interior of the former 7ft gauge loco shed with D2954. The standard gauge rails were carried on timber baulks supported on stone blocks within the 7ft gauge inspection pits. One of the old 7ft gauge rails still remained on the left side of the nearest pit. I doubt if D2954 was ever used in service on the Breakwater Railway, not being fitted with the timber below the buffer beams like D2955. It was certainly not used after 1971, when it was dismantled for repairs which were never completed and after that it was used as a source of spares for D2955. [Photo removed] The Wickham permanent way trolley used by BR workers for transport along the breakwater The brickworks closed in 1974, but Wilds continued to supply stone for the breakwater and latterly stone was brought in by road from another of Wilds' quarries and loaded onto rail wagons near the brickworks where it could be weighed before being transported down to the breakwater. The contract with Wilds was terminated in 1975 and slate blocks were then brought in by road from Penrhyn Quarry. The blocks were transferred to rail wagons on the quay area at the inland end of the breakwater and the loco was then operated by a BR driver. [Photo removed] BR also provided their own wagons after 1975 - Two Conflats DB709304 and DB710155, and two flat wagon conversions (from vans ?) M 418362 and E311393 [Photo removed] 01 002 (D2955) with 01 001 (D2954) inside the shed, July 1980. The railway had last been used the previous year, since when the stone was carried direct to where required on the breakwater by lorries. The two locos were scrapped on site in February 1982. Edited October 15, 2018 by PGH 37 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torr Giffard LSWR 1951-71 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 ....nice collection of pictures PGH....thank you for sharing. Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren01 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Hi Glade you are back with your superb photo's, the last shot of the 01 inside the shed is stunning!. Just need a RTR to recreate this scene. Thanks for putting them up. Darren Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 More interesting photos!!! cheers neil.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparks Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Fascinating (and well photographed) shots. Thanks for sharing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Grafarman Posted March 23, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 23, 2014 Don't often see these kind of pictures; fascinating views inside the shed and across the water - how that scene has changed in recent years! David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted March 24, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 24, 2014 I was living, (at the grand old age of 11mths), in number 21 when that Craven went through numbers 13/15 If anyone has photos of either the accident or the station area in general around that time, then I'd very much appreciate having a look at them. I'm at the planning stage of a layout in N gauge to encompass Royton Station through Royton Junction with a hidden roundy-roundy with a fiddle yard going behind the scenes. I've found some signal box diagrams by Flyingsignalman in this thread http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/79703-slotted-stop-signals/ but I'm also looking for track layout diagram as things were changing around the mid 60's. Mark. The railcar site (archived version) has more details of the accident here: http://web.archive.org/web/20100920060642/http://www.railcar.co.uk/features/accidents/Royton8feb61.htm And on it's 'refurbished site' has this: http://www.railcar.co.uk/topics/accidents/61-02-08-Royton.html Hope this helps! Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.hill64 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I suppose that 01 002 (and possibly 01 001?) were unique in having the Lion-on-Wheel emblem and a TOPS number. Great photos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I suppose that 01 002 (and possibly 01 001?) were unique in having the Lion-on-Wheel emblem and a TOPS number. And some say it remained in original BR black livery at the same time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGH Posted March 24, 2014 Author Share Posted March 24, 2014 And some say it remained in original BR black livery at the same time. I noted them as green, and a commercial colour photo I have shows a definite green 'tinge'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 24, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 24, 2014 I suppose that 01 002 (and possibly 01 001?) were unique in having the Lion-on-Wheel emblem and a TOPS number. Great photos. Ferret and dartboard on 76022 is probably the only thing to come close? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I noted them as green, and a commercial colour photo I have shows a definite green 'tinge'. Thanks. That is probably another myth exploded, although it does beg the question as to why the later BR totem was not applied at the same time as the repaint? (Others may be able to make up their own mind here - http://tinyurl.com/paoqv7y http://tinyurl.com/odnl722 http://tinyurl.com/ohyntjb ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Very interesting...they were the ONLY class of loco in the Ian Allen shedbook I bought in 1972, of which I never saw a representative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I suppose that 01 002 (and possibly 01 001?) were unique in having the Lion-on-Wheel emblem and a TOPS number. Great photos. Not quite true - 08010 had that honour, whilst Kingmoor's 08105 retained the cycling lion AND black livery with it's TOPS number. It does seem unlikely that the Breakwater 01s got a repaint - could it be that the very old black paint had simply acquired a greenish tinge? More remarkable seems to be the fact that D2954 got renumbered as 01001 despite being non-functional.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Except that the notes disagree with a report in one of the monthly magazines of the time (I am trying to find it) that both 01001 and 01002 were black in November 1979. I never saw a correction to that report in a later issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted March 24, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) I'm sure I've seen it mentioned in the R.O. - they used to have a yearly(?) update on liveries, certainly in the 70s EDIT: Jan 1979 edition has 'class 01 - black, cabside emblems above cabside numbers'. A quick check on Flickr shows them black, but also has more than one person saying they could look mucky dark green at times http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=class+01+holyhead Edited March 24, 2014 by keefer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I'm sure I've seen it mentioned in the R.O. - they used to have a yearly(?) update on liveries, certainly in the 70s EDIT: Jan 1979 edition has 'class 01 - black, cabside emblems above cabside numbers'. A quick check on Flickr shows them black, but also has more than one person saying they could look mucky dark green at times http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=class+01+Holyhead I recall seeing them in the early 70s and thought they were black, but it was difficult to say what colour they were from the condition of the paint. However what was noticeable was the fresh green paint applied over the old numbers with the new 01 numbers applied. This was distinctly a different shade from the rest of the locos, and could be the reason for conflicting reports. Merf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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