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I particularly enjoyed the 'Octel' operations. Do you have any photos of the old rail served oil installation near Amlwch?

 

No I don't.  The siding branched off the Amlwch Line just south of the overbridge shown in photo 8 of Post #196.  The photo below is looking south (towards Gaerwen) from that overbridge, the site of the junction being marked with the red arrow.

 

 

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Your view of a Cravens DMU in Royton Station is the year after one of these Units went through that wall at the platform end. 

 

I was living, (at the grand old age of 11mths), in number 21 when that Craven went through numbers 13/15 

 

If anyone has photos of either the accident or the station area in general around that time, then I'd very much appreciate having a look at them.

 

I'm at the planning stage of a layout in N gauge to encompass Royton Station through Royton Junction with a hidden roundy-roundy with a fiddle yard going behind the scenes.  I've found some signal box diagrams by Flyingsignalman in this thread http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/79703-slotted-stop-signals/ but I'm also looking for track layout diagram as things were changing around the mid 60's.

 

Mark.

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The Oldham Loop Part One Manchester Victoria to Shaw & Crompton by Jeffrey Wells (Foxline) will serve you well with photos of Royton and a track plan of the station and yard.

 

Thanks,  found and ordered  :thankyou:

 

Mark.

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I was living, (at the grand old age of 11mths), in number 21 when that Craven went through numbers 13/15 

 

If anyone has photos of either the accident or the station area in general around that time, then I'd very much appreciate having a look at them.

 

I'm at the planning stage of a layout in N gauge to encompass Royton Station through Royton Junction with a hidden roundy-roundy with a fiddle yard going behind the scenes.  I've found some signal box diagrams by Flyingsignalman in this thread http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/79703-slotted-stop-signals/ but I'm also looking for track layout diagram as things were changing around the mid 60's.

 

Mark.

The railcar site (archived version) has more details of the accident here:

http://web.archive.org/web/20100920060642/http://www.railcar.co.uk/features/accidents/Royton8feb61.htm

 

And on it's 'refurbished site' has this:

http://www.railcar.co.uk/topics/accidents/61-02-08-Royton.html

 

Hope this helps!

 

Andy G

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I suppose that 01 002 (and possibly 01 001?) were unique in having the Lion-on-Wheel emblem and a TOPS number.

 

 

And some say it remained in original BR black livery at the same time.

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I noted them as green, and a commercial colour photo I have shows a definite green 'tinge'.

 

Thanks. That is probably another myth exploded, although it does beg the question as to why the later BR totem was not applied at the same time as the repaint?

 

(Others may be able to make up their own mind here - http://tinyurl.com/paoqv7y   http://tinyurl.com/odnl722   http://tinyurl.com/ohyntjb )

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I suppose that 01 002 (and possibly 01 001?) were unique in having the Lion-on-Wheel emblem and a TOPS number.

Great photos.

Not quite true - 08010 had that honour, whilst Kingmoor's 08105 retained the cycling lion AND black livery with it's TOPS number. 

 

It does seem unlikely that the Breakwater 01s got a repaint - could it be that the very old black paint had simply acquired a greenish tinge?

 

More remarkable seems to be the fact that D2954 got renumbered as 01001 despite being non-functional....

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Except that the notes disagree with a report in one of the monthly magazines of the time (I am trying to find it) that both 01001 and 01002 were black in November 1979.

 

I never saw a correction to that report in a later issue.

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I'm sure I've seen it mentioned in the R.O. - they used to have a yearly(?) update on liveries, certainly in the 70s

EDIT: Jan 1979 edition has 'class 01 - black, cabside emblems above cabside numbers'. A quick check on Flickr shows them black, but also has more than one person saying they could look mucky dark green at times

 

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=class+01+holyhead

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I'm sure I've seen it mentioned in the R.O. - they used to have a yearly(?) update on liveries, certainly in the 70s

EDIT: Jan 1979 edition has 'class 01 - black, cabside emblems above cabside numbers'. A quick check on Flickr shows them black, but also has more than one person saying they could look mucky dark green at times

 

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=class+01+Holyhead

 

I recall seeing them in the early 70s and thought they were black, but it was difficult to say what colour they were from the condition of the paint. However what was noticeable was the fresh green paint applied over the old numbers with the new 01 numbers applied. This was distinctly a different shade from the rest of the locos, and could be the reason for conflicting reports.

Merf.

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