Popular Post Bristol_Rich Posted September 24, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) Every now and then I will get an email or PM from a member asking what ever happened to Frampton and my typical response has been that 'it is still around' and 'still in use' and always followed up with a 'next time its out I'll grab some images for you'. Well, time took hold and that must have been a year ago if not more and I have (I'm sorry to say) lost the details of those who asked. Time... Something that for me these days is becoming an increasingly rare and valuable commodity. Work, a recent house move and the important things in life seem to be constantly getting in the way of any modelling in general. The back of my work note book is full of ideas, my mind is thinking of projects plans and ideas, yet time is something I don't have oodles of to bring the things to reality. That said, every year I try to support a local Model Railway Exhibition which acts as a useful lever to find time, and so this year Frampton will be exhibited for its 10th birthday. Originally conceived for the Scalefour Society's 18:83 Challenge and built within accordance of the challenge rules, Its design permits easy storage and transportation, with the layout easily fitting in a small sized family car. Whilst the overall dimensions of the layout are small (6' x 2'), it demonstrates that an intensive operational layout can be achieved in a small compact space. So in preparation the exhibition, the layout has been relinquished from its storage and prepared for its next outing. For all those who asked I have attached a couple of images (some new) as I promised...some time ago. Edited September 28, 2014 by rich_eason 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold John B Posted September 24, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 24, 2014 Always liked this layout, Rich. Glad to see it's still giving you enjoyment, and thanks for giving it another airing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted September 25, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 25, 2014 A "me too" post - this was / is very inspirational for a small space sceme & well worth a 'bump' to gain further viewings! Image in this thread shows the track plan, more images in the gallery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold mudmagnet Posted September 25, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 25, 2014 A "me too" post - this was / is very inspirational for a small space sceme & well worth a 'bump' to gain further viewings! Image in this thread shows the track plan, more images in the gallery Thanks for the link Rich. Great layout and trackplan - just my sort of thing ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 And mine! Thanks for (re)posting... Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 And mine! Thanks for (re)posting... Best, Pete. It's super, but where's the Humble Pie references? Sorry, C6T. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Rich Posted September 28, 2014 Author Share Posted September 28, 2014 (edited) Lydney Exhibition Completed and layout packed away. All bar a point blade coming free of its solder joint, the layout ran absolutely trouble free. During the quiet spells I managed to grab a couple of quick (poor quality) shots with my iPhone so quality is poor but at least if nothing else it records its 10th Anniversary! Liddy...good to see meet again and hoping to get the Swedish stuff on the go again...soon! 10years of operating the layout at exhibitions I have learnt to... Consider your layout name wisely. I don't know how many times I have been asked..."Frampton is that a real place?"..."Is this based on Frampton on Severn/ Cottrell/ Mansell?"... not under estimate the amount of weight into wagons. Only by now have I think every wagon has the right amount in it... Keep it simple...build in redundancy... Chat to the punters... Edited September 28, 2014 by rich_eason 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Rich Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 In preparation of Frampton's next outing at the Monmouth exhibition I've been rummaging getting some bits up together. Stumbling across the stock boxes it would appear that the Lydney exhibition took its toll on some of the wagons possibly through transporting home - minor paint damage, loose/missing parts or wagons generally looking a bit "unkempt". So here we have the Frampton wagon repair shop. Each wagon is in for some minor surgery of some kind or another and in need of a bit of TLC. The repair schedule is as follows... Parkside Vanwide - Additional roof detail Parkside 12t Ventilated Van - Additional Roof Detail Bachmann Planked 12t Ventilated Van - couplings and vac pipes (to be added) Parkside Grampus (Black) - Wagon load to be weathered down a little Parkside Grampus - Load to be replaced...it looks like storing in the garage the ambient moisture has got to it? Cambrian Dogfish - As above re load plus broken W iron repair and touch up paint and weathering Red Panda Sand Wagon - Broken buffer plus I'm not happy with the load (as above)...thinking this might end up sheeted. Scratchbuild Flask Wagon - Addition of accurate buffers Scratchbuilt/ Britannia Models(?) Inspection Saloon - touching up of paint. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 What a lovely layout, great scenery and stock which really finishes it off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Rich Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 So minor wagon repairs now completed, paint work touched up and weathered the rolling stock is up together and ready for the weekend. Next job is to give the track a thorough clean and patch in any loose or missing scenics, final electrical test and pack up! 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
south_tyne Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Thanks very much for sharing. What a fantastic little layout, right up my street and a fantastic standard of modelling. Interesting trackplan too. If you don't mind me asking, how do you find the layout to operate? Do you use a sequence/schedule or just shuffle wagons as you want? Many thanks, David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Rich Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 Monmouth Exhibition complete. Actually feeling pretty tired as it was quite a busy show and the legs and feet are aching! The layout took some time to warm up (it had been stored in the car in the garage the night before) but once up to temp operated without hitch only requiring the usual mid session track clean required but other wise nothing untoward. All packed away, into the car and on the road in 15mins, home for tea within an hour. Met a fair few RMWebbers was always good to talk as always. Thanks very much for sharing. What a fantastic little layout, right up my street and a fantastic standard of modelling. Interesting trackplan too. If you don't mind me asking, how do you find the layout to operate? Do you use a sequence/schedule or just shuffle wagons as you want? Many thanks, David David The operation of the layout is simply to move wagons around the layout, on or off scene. The dimensions of the various head shunts restrict the movement sufficient that no one siding of wagons can be moved in one complete movement...the larger the loco the more difficult this becomes, the more wagons on the layout the less space there is in which to move. As to what size loco I usually use an 08, 25 or 33. Anything larger and things get a bit challenging! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold mudmagnet Posted February 8, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2015 Shame that I couldn't get to Monmouth to see Frampton, as looks great in the photos. Do you have any more shows planned in the South West ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold bcnPete Posted February 8, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2015 Always good to see this layout. You can't beat a small simple layout with beautifully detailed stock - and this ticks all those boxes Never tired to see more... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Rich Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 Shame that I couldn't get to Monmouth to see Frampton, as looks great in the photos. Do you have any more shows planned in the South West ?? At the moment, no. We are anticipating an invite to the Lydney Show in September however I would like to think that by then we have enough of the Swedish NG running that I can take that as a demo, or maybe another proj currently being planned.... assuming the alignment of many planets to enable me find some modelling away from the day job! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
south_tyne Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 David The operation of the layout is simply to move wagons around the layout, on or off scene. The dimensions of the various head shunts restrict the movement sufficient that no one siding of wagons can be moved in one complete movement...the larger the loco the more difficult this becomes, the more wagons on the layout the less space there is in which to move. As to what size loco I usually use an 08, 25 or 33. Anything larger and things get a bit challenging! Hi Rich, thanks for that useful response. As you say, the limited headshunt length will cause some interesting movements and the occasional headache! Building this kind of operational restiction into a layout is an idea I have really though about much but gives an added dimension. Thanks again and glad the exhibition appearance went well. The advantages of such a small layout are so apparent at the end of a show on a Sunday afternoon... Dismantle, tuck it under the arm and away home!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Rich Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) This may help explain the movements a little more... A - Fiddle Yard approximately equal to Siding C B - Three quarters the total length of Siding C D - Half the length of Fiddle Yard A and Siding C E - Half the length of D E is by the far the smallest headhunt on the layout and can accommodate a Class 25 or 33 max. I totally agree with the packing up! One small box of stock, two halves of layout, two legs and an extension lead! Edited February 9, 2015 by rich_eason 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liddy Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) I was delighted to see Frampton at Monmouth at the weekend, I get endless enjoyment out of watching and chatting, I'm always inspired by the atmosphere created by the scenics and those great photos of authentic-looking wagons sitting in quiet, seemingly half-forgotten sidings between moves. Thank you Edited February 9, 2015 by Liddy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
south_tyne Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) This may help explain the movements a little more... A - Fiddle Yard approximately equal to Siding C B - Three quarters the total length of Siding C D - Half the length of Fiddle Yard A and Siding C E - Half the length of D E is by the far the smallest headhunt on the layout and can accommodate a Class 25 or 33 max. post-6957-0-92204300-1411923996.jpg I totally agree with the packing up! One small box of stock, two halves of layout, two legs and an extension lead! Hi Rich, Thanks for that, it is excellent and really does help a lot in visualising how things work. Obviously it has been really well thought through with the restrictions certainly adding to complications in operation. Shows what time taken in the planning process can achieve. I appreciate the time taken to explain things. David Edited February 10, 2015 by south_tyne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liddy Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 You made the local paper! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liddy Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Hi, I know you used pins to fix the track down, please can we have a little more about the 'how'? Some people talk of cut down bambi staples, but I can't imagine that is consistent enough for appearance, what did you use for track spikes? Presumably you had to drill and glue, I can't imagine 'driving' your spikes. I have ambitions of a light railway and spiked rail seems the lightest option. Thanks in advance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Rich Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 "Great"... or more like yikes! For the track I'll run up a little how too guide...probably won't be until tomorrow or Sunday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Rich Posted February 14, 2015 Author Share Posted February 14, 2015 Liddy Here is how we have constructed the track on Frampton. The principles remain the same for both track and turnouts. Materials Sundela board - We used strips of Sundela board on the layout as it provides a suitable medium to push the pins in to and more importantly it holds them in position. Plywood sleepers - I think we used Scalefour items approx. 1mm thick, suitably stained in a concoction of Indian inks and wood preserves! Rail - Frampton uses Code 75 NS FB rail but the process works with any flat bottomed rail in any scale. Track pins - The track pins we use are KB Scale RS01 Rail Spikes and are available through the KB scale site here: http://www.kbscale.com/track-parts.html They are preformed with a "head" and have a sharp point to enable pushing into the sub base material and quality wise they are very good and appear hardened and can take some punishment. I have no idea how many were used on Frampton but in some ways it best not to think about it! Laying the track Part 1 With the Sundela board laid strike a line to represent the centre line of the track. A flexible curve is useful for drawing any curved section of track. Part 2 Using a suitable adhesive for you sleepers, stick them into position using the centre line as your reference. Part 3 Using the centre line as your reference, divide the required gauge in half and measure back this dimension. This will provide you with your datum rail. Part 4 Once located, start to insert pins along the outer face of the rail using a pair of flat nosed pliers. The pins are sharp enough not to require any pre drilling or pilot holes and are strong enough to hold down the rail with the one side pinned in place. Repeat along the inner face of the rail. Part 5 Using the now set datum rail, gauge off this to set the opposite rail. Installation of the pins is the same as before, this time pin down the inside face of the rail first, followed by the outer. Part 6 With the track now installed the final checks can be made to ensure consistency and accuracy of gauge. Where minor adjustments are required, these can be made through gently lifting the pin adjusting the rail and reseating the pin back down into place. There is no need to remove the pin fully from its original hole. The pin will retain a tight hold on the rail. Very small adjustment can be achieved through gently turning the pin heads in-situ pushing the pin head against the web of the rail. Hope that helps! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Lovely layout Rich, looks great fun to operate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liddy Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Hi, Thanks for taking the time to explain how you created your track, I shall have to give it a try. Meanwhile I have found this a photo of my fave Frampton loco, sadly missed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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