Chris T's photo archives

[Chris Turnbull]

Correction to one of the captions - D9019 at Doncaster is on a down express (not up). The train is the 12:00 KX-Aberdeen.

 

Thanks for that, caption changed.  I must admit that I did wonder if I'd got that right.  It makes more sense for it to be a Down train as I was waiting for an Up train at the time.

 

Chris Turnbull 

[Chris Turnbull]

Back to the northwest this evening and some more "death of steam" nostalgia.

 

 

Stanier Class 8F 48448 leaves Rose Grove yard headed westwards on 10th July 1968

 

 

Later the same day at the other end of the station is Class 8F 48773.

 

 

Out on the line at Hoghton on 11th July 1968 "Black Five" No. 45156 "Ayrshire Yeomanry" heads towards Blackburn with a Class K freight.

 

 

Coming in the opposite direction is sister locomotive No. 45305 with a Class H freight.

 

 

At Carnforth on the previous day is another "Black Five" No. 44963 on the Furness & Midland Joint line to East Junction although whether the locomotive was reversing or working "wrong line" I can't remember.

 

 

Taking the Furness line to Barrow in Furness is No. 45209

 

 

It wasn't all steam.  This was the latest in WCML motive power, English Electric Type 4 D416 on an Up passenger at Carnforth on 12th July 1968.

 

Thanks to Jonny777 as usual.

 

Chris Turnbull

 

 

[Chris Turnbull]

A few shots of the Severn Valley Railway this evening all taken on 12th April 1980.

 

 

At that time Bewdley was as far as services went.  This is 7812 "Erlestoke Manor" awaiting the "right away" to Bridgnorth.

 

 

The next stop is Arley, a delightful station on the banks of the Severn.  Class 5101 "Large Prairie" No. 5164 is the train engine.

 

 

And here she is again, this time at Hampton Loade.

 

 

An unusual visitor to Bridgnorth was LNWR No. 3020 "Cornwall", sadly not in steam.

 

 

Finally Highley, another delightful station where we see 4930 "Hagley Hall".  At this time I was a volunteer on the SVR and one of my abiding memories is riding in a brake van from Bewdley to Highley on a warm summer's evening after the last service train with a raft of wagons laden with loco ash.  We quickly shovelled the ash from the wagons onto the side of the track for use as ballast and adjourned to the pub at Highley where we set about slaking our thirst while the loco simmered in the station.  Happy days!

 

 

Taken 12 years earlier on 25th August 1968, this is "Hagley Hall" in Woodham's scrap yard at Barry.  Not a bad bit of restoration!

 

Thanks to Jonny777 again.

 

Chris Turnbull

Edited May 18, 2022 by Chris Turnbull

[Chris Turnbull]

Over the Bank Holiday weekend of 29th, 30th and 31st August 1998 Toton was thrown open to the public; I expect quite a few of you were there.  These were all taken on 29th.

 

 

Railway photographers take the opportunity to capture a trio of brand-new Class 66s.

 

 

A look inside the cab of 57001 proved very popular as it also did for... 

 

 

... 92001 "Victor Hugo".  Nice to see a couple of ladies admiring a fine locomotive. 

 

 

This one rather caught my eye, 90028 "Vrachtverbinding" in SNCB livery

 

 

And not forgetting the "heritage" stock as well.  A most well-organised and enjoyable event, I thought.

 

Chris Turnbull

 

 

 

 

[Phil Bullock]

Smashing photos Chris

 

I was there

 

We were pleased to see the nice new 66s - not sure that still applies!

 

Kind regards

 

Phil

[hmrspaul]

yes I was there on the 30th, as were some nice wagons http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/?q=toton%2098-08-30

 

Strangely at the club tonight I was querying a red roofed EWS class 37 - but this does look like they have a red roof. http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/britaingeneralrail/e7642198

 

Paul

[Ray M]

Myself & the nephew also there.

If i remember correctly, the 66`s where numbers 1,3,4

66002 followed on quite a time after.

[Chris Turnbull]

Time for another Fakenham and Dereham Railway Society railtour I think.

 

On 29th March 1980 the F&DRS organised a trip from Ely to various lines in west Norfolk.  Travelling north from Ely towards Kings Lynn we reversed at Denver onto the Stoke Ferry branch travelling as far as the site of Abbey and West Dereham station.  Post #1 shows our four-car DMU at this long-closed station.

 

 

The line from Abbey and West Dereham to Stoke Ferry had closed in 1965 but had remained open from Denver to Abbey to provide access to the Wissington Railway and Wissington sugar beet factory (lots of those in East Anglia).  This is the start of the Wissington Railway.

 

 

Here is the railway as it was in 1980: note the flat-bottomed rail spiked to timber sleepers.  During the food production drive of the Second World War the "Wissy" was very extensive but by 1980 it just fed the sugar beet factory.  For more details see: http://www.railmaponline.com/UKIEMap.php 

 

 

On the return to the main line we were held on the branch for 47180 "County of Suffolk" to pass with a Down express.

 

 

From Denver we headed towards Kings Lynn forking left at Harbour Junction to travel down the Kings Lynn Harbour branch.  This is the view from the cab of the DMU back down the branch towards Harbour Junction.  The bridge you can see is that over the River Nar.

 

 

From the Harbour branch it was only a short hop to South Lynn and M&GN territory.  This was the site of South Lynn station; the A47 dual carriageway can just be seen to the right of the photograph.  For the DMU aficionados amongst you the unit numbers were E56447, E51270, E56448 and E51293. 

 

 

 

This was the view from the other side of the road bridge looking east with South Lynn locomotive shed (31D) on the right.

 

To be concluded tomorrow.

 

Thanks to Jonny777 as usual.

 

Chris Turnbull

Edited January 3, 2015 by Chris Turnbull

[LNERGE]

If i were to choose a favourite location it would be Denver Junction.

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/pwayowen/12522750614/in/photolist-k5Antm-iPoAfM-kyGAxr-cU3XwY

 

As i say in the comments DJ22 is now my ENJ22

[russ p]

Superb pictures Chris, the wissington railway came within two miles of Lakenheath station and during WW2 consideration was given to joining it up

 

Also note to modelers note the unit is only displaying one tail lamp which was the rule of the day

[Chris Turnbull]

Today we conclude the Fakenham & Dereham Railway Society's West Norfolk Freight Lines Railtour on 29th March 1980.

 

 

From South Lynn we headed to Kings Lynn which is seen here, along with a great view of a telegraph pole, from the DMU on our way to the Kings Lynn Docks Line.  37110 is going on shed.

 

 

 

This was the limit of the BR tracks - the A148, John Kennedy Road.  The pub on the left is still there, according to Google Earth, and is called "The Retreat" although it looks like it was called something else in 1980.

 

 

Leaving the Docks Line we headed to Middleton Towers where there was, and still is, a substantial sand quarry.

 

 

This is the quarry shunter.  I don't know any details of this locomotive but I'll bet someone does (D2054 - see below).  Unfortunately, I wasn't able to get any better shots of it as we were asked not to trespass on the private quarry land.  

 

 

This is Middleton Towers station, closed to passengers in 1968.

 

  

 

Looking from the cab of the DMU along the line towards Dereham.  No shortage of sand ballast!

 

Thanks to Jonny777 again.

 

Chris Turnbull

Edited January 7, 2015 by Chris Turnbull

[LNERGE]

It's a wonder that any sand made it to the other end. From 'busier?' times..

 

Edited January 4, 2015 by LNERGE

[Shadow]

Was out at Middleton Towers May 2013. A few photo's from then

 

Towards Kings Lynn,

 

 

Towards the quarry/station

 

 

 

 

[Chris Turnbull]

Back to Ely and Cambridge today.

 

 

On 29th March 1980 this is 37109 in Platform 3 at Ely with the Harwich boat train.

 

 

Two days later at Cambridge here's 37107.

 

 

On the same day 37116 comes under Hills Road bridge, Cambridge.

 

 

Looking south from Hills Road bridge this is 37075 on a Down passenger, 13th May 1980.

 

 

On the same day looking north 37107 enters the Down Goods Loop (if that's what it was called).  LNERGE will soon put me right if I have got that wrong!

 

Thanks to Jonny777 as usual.

 

Chris Turnbull

 

 

 

 

 

 

[EddieB]

The loco at Middleton Towers is probably the former class 03 D2054.  Built at Doncaster in 1959, it came from Chair Centre Ltd., in Derby (where it was  named "CENTRA") and went to CF Booth's for scapping in 1982.

[Ray M]

The loco at Middleton Towers is probably the former class 03 D2054.  Built at Doncaster in 1959, it came from Chair Centre Ltd., in Derby (where it was  named "CENTRA") and went to CF Booth's for scapping in 1982.

Sorry to say but that sure looks like a 04 to me (Cab roof overhang).

[uax6]

The interesting thing being that these days they don't have a shunter, the work being done by the train engine. Up until recently (I'm sure it no longer happens) wagons that were left up there were moved about using a landrover winch system. An accident has knocked that on the head (so to speak) I hope.....

 

There is plenty of talk about how the sands are going to fit in around the half-hourly service in 2017, and from what I've seen it could be quite a challenge. Although there are rumors of changing the layout at Lynn so that there is a triangle so that the sands can come straight out of Middleton and onto the single at Extons Road. Will it happen?

 

Andy G

[EddieB]

Sorry to say but that sure looks like a 04 to me (Cab roof overhang).

Sorry, Ray.  It might look like an 04's overhanging roof, but D2054 had rain strips added that extended its roof profile - which can be seen clearly in a photo in Industrial Railway Record 101 p303.  It was painted white, with orange "features" (including a camel emblem) and a black roof.

 

Edit: As IRR 101 isn't viewable on line, here's another picture of D2054 at Middleton, showing the extended cab roof.

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/12a_kingmoor_klickr/5826437890/

Edited January 7, 2015 by EddieB

[Chris Turnbull]

Some 28 years later  this is Cambridge on 12th January 2008 before the addition of the island platform.

 

 

317886 from Hills Road bridge.  The guided busway is under construction in the foreground.

 

 

Looking north from Hills Road bridge.

 

 

Taken from the old cattle market road.

 

 

Looking in the opposite direction.

 

 

365503 in Platform 3

 

 

365509 in Platform 4

 

Chris Turnbull

 

 

[31A]

The Cattle Market railings aren't a patch on the old ones....

[Chris Turnbull]

Strangely at the club tonight I was querying a red roofed EWS class 37 - but this does look like they have a red roof. http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/britaingeneralrail/e7642198

 

Yes, they do have red roofs but that isn't always obvious.  Here's two shots of 37174 at Toton on 29th August 1998 which shows the roofs as a dirty grey but only because the washers don't reach that far.  From ground level they would probably look grey.  Note how the top of the nose is also a dirty grey.

 

 

 

"Why does this bloke take photographs of loco roofs?" I hear you say.  Well...  I reckon that on a model the roofs are the most important part as it's what we see most of.  We largely look down on models from a scale height of between 100 and 200 feet depending on the scale and height of the layout.  At the time I was building a 7mm Class 58 and wanted some detail shots.  I had photographed 58037 in the yard from every conceivable angle but needed some of the roof and I think the shed staff would have taken exception to me climbing up on to the loco.  I therefore went up on the A52 road bridge and waited.  Sure enough a Class 58 came by as did a 37.  Just in case I might build a 37 one day I took some shots of that as well.  I have still to build a model but at least I have the roof detail.

 

Chris Turnbull 

Edited January 10, 2015 by Chris Turnbull

[Chris Turnbull]

One fine preserved railway we haven't visited yet is the Bluebell.  My first visit was on 7th April 1980...

 

 

Here's Standard Class 4 No. 75027 at Horsted Keynes.

 

 

Here she is again running round her train at Sheffield Park.

 

 

Ready to depart now with SECR No. 263 arriving.

 

 

No. 263 running round her train this time.

 

 

Now ready to depart with a wonderful clerestory coach.

 

 

On 30th October 2010 I visited Sheffield Park again, this time with "Battle of Britain" No. 34059 "Sir Archibald Sinclair" in action.

 

 

Taken from a footbridge that wasn't there in 1980.

 

 

In 1968 No. 75027 was in a sorry state at Rose Grove.  Here she is on 10th July - see also post #297.

 

Thanks to Jonny777 again

 

Chris Turnbull

[lmsforever]

The Bluebell is a very good railway to visit, way back my model railway club organised a day out there and we had exclusive use of the observation saloon one way made us feel very special and certain members gave many regal waves to other punters.

[hmrspaul]

Yes, they do have red roofs but that isn't always obvious.  Here's two shots of 37174 at Toton on 29th August 1998 which shows the roofs as a dirty grey but only because the washers don't reach that far.  From ground level they would probably look grey.  Note how the top of the nose is also a dirty grey.

 

 

"Why does this bloke take photographs of loco roofs?" I hear you say.  Well...  I reckon that on a model the roofs are the most important part as it's what we see most of.  We largely look down on models from a scale height of between 100 and 200 feet depending on the scale and height of the layout.  At the time I was building a 7mm Class 58 and wanted some detail shots.  I had photographed 58037 in the yard from every conceivable angle but needed some of the roof and I think the shed staff would have taken exception to me climbing up on to the loco.  I therefore went up on the A52 road bridge and waited.  Sure enough a Class 58 came by as did a 37.  Just in case I might build a 37 one day I took some shots of that as well.  I have still to build a model but at least I have the roof detail.

 

Chris Turnbull 

Chris, Thanks very interesting. They do look 'odd' in model form,

 

I admire you for taking overhead photos. I have said elsewhere how much I regret not doing this more with my wagon photographs. Scunthorpe had a superb footbridge across the yards next to the station and it annoyed me at the time that overhead photographs were necessary. Now they are some of the more interesting/useful ones. There are often questions about loads in open wagons and it is often difficult to see these from the side.

 

We live and finally learn, with such limited access to take photos I now often take them from Cinder Lane bridge at York, or even the station footbridge so I do have loco roof photos now.

 

Paul

[Fat Controller]

Chris, Thanks very interesting. They do look 'odd' in model form,

 

I admire you for taking overhead photos. I have said elsewhere how much I regret not doing this more with my wagon photographs. Scunthorpe had a superb footbridge across the yards next to the station and it annoyed me at the time that overhead photographs were necessary. Now they are some of the more interesting/useful ones. There are often questions about loads in open wagons and it is often difficult to see these from the side.

 

We live and finally learn, with such limited access to take photos I now often take them from Cinder Lane bridge at York, or even the station footbridge so I do have loco roof photos now.

 

Paul

The problem would be that you could take photos (at least in the case of moving trains) of either the roof or the sides, unless there were two photographers. It's not just the loads in wagons; many years ago, when I did an article on modelling VTG Coil wagons, it took me ages to work out the arrangement for the runners for the hoods, as all the photos and drawings I had only showed end or side elevations, with no plan view. Some manufacturers seem to have had the same problem, modelling the spring hangers and brake shoes in the same plane, for example.