RMweb Gold DaveF Posted August 28, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) Huttwil and Wolhusen today in 1988. Wolhusen is on the line from Luzern to Bern and is the junction with the SBB. Hutwill, also on the VHB, is a junction for lines to Wolhusen, Ramsei and Langenthal. A note about the railways - the EBT is the Emmental Burgdorf Thun Bahn, the VHB is the Vereinigte Huttwil Bahn, there is also the SMB, the Solothurn Münster Bahn, all under the same management in 1988. Wolhusen EBT RBDe4/4 283 and Bt 283 11th Aug 88 C10704 Huttwil EBT RBDE4/4 and Bt 364 11th Aug 88 C10706 Huttwil EBT Bt 361 and Bt 364 11th Aug 88 C10709 Huttwil VHB Bt361 and RBDe4/4 261 to Burgdorf 11th Aug 88 C10711 Huttwil EBT De4/4 235 11th Aug 88 C10713 David Edited August 28, 2015 by DaveF 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted August 29, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 29, 2015 A visit to the station at the Swiss town of Langenthal today. Langenthal is on the line from Olten to Bern. The newly built line from Mattstetten to Rothrist bypasses the town. This been built since these photos were taken. Langenthal Tem 331 11th Aug 88 C10723 Langenthal SNB OJB Be4/4 103 St Urban to Langenthal 11th Aug 88 C10731 Langenthal Re4/4ii 11154 Brig to Basel BLS coaches 11th Aug 88 C10733 Langenthal Re4/4ii 11250 Zürich Flughafen to Interlaken BLS coaches 11th Aug 88 C10735 Langenthal EBT Be4/4 104 and 105 goods from Huttwil 11th Aug 88 C10740 David 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 The second Re4/4ii appears to be in two-tone brown - I don't think I've sen that livery before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 TEE Livery for the Re4/4ii ? Cheers, John E. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted August 29, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 29, 2015 The second Re4/4ii appears to be in two-tone brown - I don't think I've sen that livery before. TEE Livery for the Re4/4ii ? Cheers, John E. It's the TEE livery, well worn and rather dirty. The SBB does not repaint it's locos as often as some other companies. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 That was the nearest scheme I could think of - but I never thought the Swiss would let a "prestige" (in terms of its livery) loco get into such a disgusting state! (Swiss locos depots generally being paragons of cleanliness). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted August 30, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) Austria today for a change, Feldkirch in the summer of 1990 once again. It was a glorious sunny day, as hot as it looks! Feldkirch OBB 1063 0150 shunting 5th Aug 90 C14771 Feldkirch OBB 6020 119 Feldkirck to Bludnz 5th Aug 90 C14772 Feldkirch 1044 080 EC Stuttgart to Feldkirch 5th Aug 90 C14777 Feldkirch 1044 012 EC63 Transalpin Basel to Wien West and Klagenfurt 5th Aug 90 C14780 Feldkirch 1044 012 EC63 Transalpin Basel to Wien West and Klagenfurt 5th Aug 90 C14781 Edited to get the right place name - For those who looked at this just after I posted it I do really know that Feldkirch and Innsbruck are not the same place. David Edited August 30, 2015 by DaveF 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted August 31, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 31, 2015 Back to Switzerland in 1988 today with photos at Niederbipp and Oensingen. Niederbipp is between Solothurn and Olten. Oensingen is the next station east of Niederbipp. Oensingen is the junction for the Oensingen Balsthal Bahn (OeBB) which has an interesting collection of elderly stock in daily use. I understand the stock has changed somewhat since I was there, but is still old. Niederbipp 11th Aug 88 C10755 Niederbipp Ae6/6 westbound freight 11th Aug 88 C10750 Niederbipp OJBSNB Be4/4 35 and trailer 11th Aug 88 C10752 Niederbipp OJBSNB Be4/4 302 Langenthal to Solothurn 11th Aug 88 C10751 Oensingen OeBB Be2/4 201 11th Aug 88 C10775 David 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 1, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 1, 2015 A set of photos from Balsthal on the Oensingen Balsthal Bahn for today. Balsthal OeBB Ce2/2 102 10758 Balsthal OeBB ex BLS Be2/4 201 Balsthal to Oensingen 11th Aug 88 C10761 Balsthal OeBB ex DB 425 420-7 11th Aug 88 C10767 Balsthal OeBB Ce2/2 103 11th Aug 88 C10768 Balsthal OeBB E3/3 2 11th Aug 88 C10770 David 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 2, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2015 Germany today. Actually as it is 1967 I suppose it should be West Germany. We are at Saarbrücken in August 1967 when there was still plenty of DB steam as well as electrics and diesels to see. Saarbrücken 23001 DB Aug 67 J1010 Saarbrücken DB 23001 Aug 67 J1012 Saarbrcüken DB 23032 Aug 67 J1015 Saarbrücken DB 01062 Aug 67 J1018 Saarbrücken DB V100 2345 Aug 67 J1019 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Lovely photos again, Dave. Saarbrücken kept an allocation of 23s and 50s until quite late into the 'seventies. It holds particular memories as being the place where I last saw "proper" working steam in West Germany (middle of the night, peering out from the top bunk of a couchette on to a 23). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 3, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 3, 2015 Switzerland again today, this time in 1978. The photos were taken from a paddle steamer on Lac Leman (Lake Geneva). near Clarens SBB Re4/4ii Geneve to Brig 11th Aug 78 J6292 near Grandvaux SBB Re4/4ii westbound schnellzug 11th Aug 78 C4065 near St Saphorin Ae3/6i westbound Regionalzug 11th Aug 78 J6293 near Territet SBB Re4/4ii eastbound schnellzug 11th Aug 78 C4058 near Territet SBB Re4/4ii westbound schnellzug 11th Aug 78 C4057 David 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 4, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 4, 2015 Back to Switzerland in 1988 today with a few more photos from Oensingen. Oensingen OeBB ex DB 425 420 11th Aug 88 C10774 Oensingen Ae6/6 11426 shunting 11th Aug 88 C10777 Oensingen Re4/4ii 11145 Biel to Olten new sticky tarmac on platform 11th Aug 88 C10779 Oensingen Re4/4ii 11231 Roamshorn to Lausanne to Brig 11th Aug 88 C10780 Oensingen Re4/4ii 11261 Geneve Aeroport to Romanshorn 11th Aug 88 C10789 David 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 5, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2015 Today we have a few photos from Rüti, the one in Canton Zürich, hence the station nameboards. I happened to be there during the rebuilding of the station for the Zürich S bahn services. After I'd been photographing for about ten minutes the stationmaster appeared and asked me what I was doing. As soon as I explained that I was from England and was a railway enthusiast he was perfectly happy for me to continue. Apparently a few days previously he'd had a journalist turn up who took some photos which had been used in a less than complimentary piece in the newspapers. Rüti ZH view towards Zürich 12th Aug 88 C10791 Rüti ZH level crossing in platforms 12th Aug 88 C10792 Rüti ZH station building 12th Aug 88 C10793 Rüti ZH Ae6/6 11477 12th Aug 88 C10796 Rüti ZH BDt and RBe4/4 1440 Rapperswil to Zürich 12th Aug 88 C10799 Rüti ZH BDt and RBe4/4 1440 Rapperswil to Zürich 12th Aug 88 C10800 David 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 6, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 6, 2015 It's still Switzerland in 1988, this time with photos from the metre gauge Brünig line. I know that the BAM (Biere Apples Morge) does not usually run in the area, their railcar was present and working as a part of the Brünig 100th anniversary celebrations. Kaiserstuhl (near) HGe4/4 and Deh6/6 double heading 11 coached Luzern to Interlaken Ost 12th Aug 88 C10819 Brunig Hasliberg Deh4/6s 906 and 908 Interlaken Ost to Luzern 12th Aug 88 C10822 Brunig Hasliberg goods shed and station building from train too long for loop 12th Aug 88 C10821 Meiringen Deh4/6 904 12th Aug 88 C10823 Meiringen BAM Biere Apples Morges Be4/4 11 Meiringen to Interlaken Ost on loan for Brunig 10012th Aug 88 C10824 Meiringen BAM Biere Apples Morges Be4/4 11 Meiringen to Interlaken Ost on loan for Brunig 10012th Aug 88 C10825 David 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 7, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) Some from Interlaken Ost today during the 100 anniversary celebrations for the Brunig line, with an MOB loco and one from the BVZ. Obviously the MOB loco could not run under power as it is a DC machine. During the celebrations a short piece of track was isolated and a generator used to supply power to allow it to move, but not on the day I was there. Interlaken Ost BOB ABeh4/4ii 311 Interlaken Ost to Lauterbrunnen 12th Aug 88 C10826 (1) Interlaken Ost BOB ABDe4/4 306 Interlaken Ost to Lauterbrunnen 12th Aug 88 C10829 Interlaken Ost BVZ HGe4/4 12 12th Aug 88 C10840 Interlaken Ost MOB Ge4/4 6004 12th Aug 88 C10848 Interlaken Ost SBB Deh46 916 Luzern to Interlaken Ost with Jass coach 12th Aug 88 C10870 Interlaken Ost Brunig G3/4 208 Ballenberg Dampf Bahn Sonderzug Interlaken Ost to Meiringen 12th Aug 88 C10872 Edited to correct a sentence which should now make sense. David . Edited September 7, 2015 by DaveF 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 7, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 7, 2015 Some from Interlaken Ost today during the 100 anniversary celebrations for the Brunig line, with an MOB loco and one from the BVZ. Obviously the MOB loco could not run under power as it is a DC machine. During the celebrations a short piece of track was isolated and a generator used to supply power to allow it to move, but not on the day I was there. David Hi Dave Do you know whether the BVZ machine was allowed out on the Brünig line? The BVZ the same gauge & voltage as the Brünig line. Pity about the MOB loco. It would have been good running up and down part of the BOB but the 1500v wouldn't have done it's 800v circuits much good! When the BOB had it's 100th celebrations (I posted a few shots earlier) they swapped a coach with the SBB so there was a red one on the BOB and a chocolate and cream one on the Brünigbahn. Still plenty of interesting photographs, you must have taken an awful lot! Cheers Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 7, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) Hi Dave Do you know whether the BVZ machine was allowed out on the Brünig line? The BVZ the same gauge & voltage as the Brünig line. Pity about the MOB loco. It would have been good running up and down part of the BOB but the 1500v wouldn't have done it's 800v circuits much good! When the BOB had it's 100th celebrations (I posted a few shots earlier) they swapped a coach with the SBB so there was a red one on the BOB and a chocolate and cream one on the Brünigbahn. Still plenty of interesting photographs, you must have taken an awful lot! Cheers Keith I think it did move, but cannot now be certain. At the time the various Swiss magazines published quite a lot about the event, but in the end they had to go as I like to be able to walk around in my house! While I was in Switzerland I generally allowed myself an average of 3x36 exposure slide films a day so there are a lot of photos. David Edited September 7, 2015 by DaveF 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 7, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2015 No, the BVZ (and FO/RhB) do NOT have the same voltage as the SBB! SBB ran their only NG line at the same voltage as the rest of their SG network at 15kV AC, while the RhB/FO/BVZ network operates with 11kV AC. When the LSE joined the Brünig line in 1964, it had to convert from DC to 15kV AC. Today they are the ZB, still operating at that 15kV system What may have caused the confusion is the HGe 4/4 series. SLM built 5 prototypes, 3 went straight to the FO and 2 were configured for the SBB Brünig. When the series was build, it was decided that the SBB would get all new loco's while the 2 SBB prototypes were gutted (and those parts reused in the SBB series) and the bodies were to become FO104 and 105 (which they did) with new FO-suitable innards. SBB has 8 loco's, the FO got 3 more (also, totalling 8 including the 5 prototypes) and the BVZ got 5 from the series. Total 21 units. Not bad, considering the highly specialist nature of the job Many thanks for the information. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 7, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) No, the BVZ (and FO/RhB) do NOT have the same voltage as the SBB! SBB ran their only NG line at the same voltage as the rest of their SG network at 15kV AC, while the RhB/FO/BVZ network operates with 11kV AC. When the LSE joined the Brünig line in 1964, it had to convert from DC to 15kV AC. Today they are the ZB, still operating at that 15kV system What may have caused the confusion is the HGe 4/4 series. SLM built 5 prototypes, 3 went straight to the FO and 2 were configured for the SBB Brünig. When the series was build, it was decided that the SBB would get all new loco's while the 2 SBB prototypes were gutted (and those parts reused in the SBB series) and the bodies were to become FO104 and 105 (which they did) with new FO-suitable innards. SBB has 8 loco's, the FO got 3 more (also, totalling 8 including the 5 prototypes) and the BVZ got 5 from the series. Total 21 units. Not bad, considering the highly specialist nature of the job Definitely a senior moment. I mistook one HV AC for another HV AC even when it's different! Keith EDIT Switzerland, so many combinations of supply voltage and track gauge, it's confusing.... But so interesting. Edited September 7, 2015 by melmerby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 7, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 7, 2015 Interestingly, the reverse is actually true! In order to service the large works at Domat-Ems (Ems-Werke, large chemical plant IIRC) the SBB runs their freights beyond the end of the SG line in Chur through the Rhine valley on a 3-rail track from Chur to Domat-Ems, where the SG diverges from the double tracked RhB line (the double track ending at Reichenau, a few miles beyond). This section is powered with the standard RhB 11kV AC line and there has been considerable photographic evidence of SBB loco's actually running on that 11kV. Even a German ICE has been test-run on the line. We had a similar occurence in the UK when some early AC lines were energised at 6.25kV rather than 25kV and AFAIK some trains operated on both before they were all standardised at 25kV. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 8, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 8, 2015 I thought we'd have a change from Switzerland today and look at a few more photos from Denmark. Esbjerg DSB Class MY 1143 25th July 92C17023 Esbjerg dmu 4087 Esbjerg to Holstebro 25th July 92 C17024 Billum Westerbanen station building 13th Aug 92C17838 Billum Westerbanen railbus 71 Varde to Nymindergab 13th Aug 92 C17839 Esbjerg Havn harbour DSB dmu 4256 17th Aug 93 C19069 David 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 9, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 9, 2015 Back to Interlaken Ost in Swizerland, 1988 again today. This time we are looking at some standard gauge trains. As well as being the 100th anniversary of the Brünig line it was also the 75th anniversay of the BLS, so once again there were some interesting things to see. A very intensive service was being worked between Interlaken Ost and West as well as numerous specials from further afield over the weekend. Interlaken Ost Re4/4ii 11252 Interlaken Ost to Basel 12th Aug 88 C10862 Interlaken Ost BLS ABt 956 coaches RVT SBB GFM Interlaken Ost to Interlaken West pendelzug 12th Aug 88 C10865 Interlaken Ost Rae4/4 1001 Roter Pfeil Red Arrow Pendelzug Interlaken Ost to West 12th Aug 88 C10877 Interlaken Ost BLS Re4/4 172 12th Aug 88 C10883 Interlaken Ost STB BDe4/6 102 12th Aug 88 C10887a STB is the Senestalbahn David 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 10, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 10, 2015 Today we move to Interlaken West to look at the celebrations of the 75th anniversary of the BLS. There was a large collection of visiting locos and stock. Interlaken West BLS Ae6/8 203 13th Aug 88 C10908 Interlaken West EBT Be4/4 102 13th Aug 88 C10913 Interlaken West DB Glaserner Zug 491001 and SBB Re4/4ii 11189 13th Aug 88 C10919 Interlaken West Re444i 10042 and Re4/4i 10050 TEE Rheingold special Basel to Interlaken West 13th Aug 88 C10969 Interlaken West Ae3/6i 10439 13th Aug 88 C10983 Daid 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Nice shot of the Glass Zug before went up in flames. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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