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Been meaning to catch back up with this; earlier in May (possibly end of April) i was running Mrs SG to work and got held at an LC near Thetford (roughly 0530), 66 and stone wagons come into view but quite suprised to see it was a Freightliner 66. Any Ideas what this was? Only ever seen EWS/DB engines with Riverside wagons, EWS again at Trowse when the EACH Express happened too. so what were FL doing? (EACH Express was great by the way, thanks for the tip on that back at the start of the year)

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F/liner have worked 4 stones from Peak Forest - Norwich and empties back to either Barrow Hill or Doncaster. They generally pass Attleborough at 05:40 - when I get home (I'm a guest of the N&NUH at the moment) I'll dig out the details for you.

 

Realised I had the info with me.

 

26 April

 

66613 on 6Z39, 22:20, Tunstead Sdgs - Trowse Yard Redland Siding (06:11) - loaded stone (17 JNA)
66613 on 6Z40, 11:15, Trowse Yard Redland Siding - Barrow Hill Up Sdgs No 2-3 (15:38) - empty stone (17 JNA)

28 April

 

66623, Bill Bolsover, on 6Z39, 22:20, Tunstead Sdgs - Trowse Yard Redland Siding (06:11) - loaded stone (17 JNA)
66623, Bill Bolsover, on 6Z40, 11:15, Trowse Yard Redland Siding - Barrow Hill Up Sdgs No 2-3 (15:38) - empty stone (17 JNA)

11 May

 

66616 on 6Z39, 22:21, Tunstead Sdgs - Trowse Yard Redland Siding (06:10) - loaded stone (11 JNA, 2 MJA)
66616 on 6Z40, 11:15, Trowse Yard Redland Siding - Barrow Hill Up Sdgs No 2-3 (15:37) - empty stone (2 MJA, 11 JNA)
 

13 May

 

66614 on 6Z39, 22:21, Tunstead Sdgs - Trowse Yard Redland Siding (06:10) - loaded stone (14 JNA, 2 MJA)
66614 on 6Z40, 11:15, Trowse Yard Redland Siding - Doncaster Down Decoy Flhh (16:27) - empty stone (2 MJA, 14 JNA)
 

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It could be that DBS have either sub-contracted workings to FL, or hired-in a loco, perhaps due to a loco shortage. Something similar has been happening to the spoil workings from the Dover sea-wall workings, where pairs of locos from DBS, GBRf and FL have all appeared on different days.

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It could be that DBS have either sub-contracted workings to FL, or hired-in a loco, perhaps due to a loco shortage. Something similar has been happening to the spoil workings from the Dover sea-wall workings, where pairs of locos from DBS, GBRf and FL have all appeared on different days.

 

The former I think Brian - they were booked Freightliner workings, rather than DBS (operated by F/liner)

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Today brought another train to Eccles Road, 66147 was in charge of the 15 MMA wagons as it arrived at 0713.

 

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Comparison shot against my first photo at Eccles Road some 16 years ago, 60099 powering the Mountsorrel to Trowse aggregates service which still runs today. 

 

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Yet again didn't have a camera on me, but Wednesday evening between 1830 and 1900 held up by the LC on the Watton road by an EWS 66 heading towards Thetford with an interesting set. 2x PGA, then a string of brand new looking silvery bogie hoppers, and a single PGA again tacked on the rear. Suspect this was a Trowse working rather than Eccles Road.

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Yet again didn't have a camera on me, but Wednesday evening between 1830 and 1900 held up by the LC on the Watton road by an EWS 66 heading towards Thetford with an interesting set. 2x PGA, then a string of brand new looking silvery bogie hoppers, and a single PGA again tacked on the rear. Suspect this was a Trowse working rather than Eccles Road.

 

66019 on 6M43, 18:13, Trowse Yard Redland Siding - Mountsorrel Sdgs (21:49) - empty stone (2 PGA, 15 HOA, 1 PGA)

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It could be that DBS have either sub-contracted workings to FL, or hired-in a loco, perhaps due to a loco shortage. Something similar has been happening to the spoil workings from the Dover sea-wall workings, where pairs of locos from DBS, GBRf and FL have all appeared on different days.

Which FOC is contracted for that move FC? I'm only interested 'cos last month FL Freds were on (at least) three days of the ostensibly GBRf North Walsham-Harwich condensate tanks, which in addition to your comment suggests both under and over employment of prime movers depending on company. The decline in coal traffic no doubt being a factor.

 

In addition Dave, with apologies for taking your thread even more off topic, I've seen the Barham bound stone whizz past lately with grey bogie hoppers. They've a red logo on which I can't make out, I don't frequent Anglia-Gen like I used to, have you seen any yet for Trowse or even caught them at Ely?

 

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Which FOC is contracted for that move FC? I'm only interested 'cos last month FL Freds were on (at least) three days of the ostensibly GBRf North Walsham-Harwich condensate tanks, which in addition to your comment suggests both under and over employment of prime movers depending on company. The decline in coal traffic no doubt being a factor.

 

In addition Dave, with apologies for taking your thread even more off topic, I've seen the Barham bound stone whizz past lately with grey bogie hoppers. They've a red logo on which I can't make out, I don't frequent Anglia-Gen like I used to, have you seen any yet for Trowse or even caught them at Ely?

 

C6T.

No idea about which FOC is involved, I'm afraid.

The red logo is 'Ermewa', I believe, the wagon-leasing subsidiary of SNCF.

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I wonder if the loco has to be returned with the same amount of fuel in the tanks as when it went out? I don't think there'll be a broker involved; more likely one company's Control ringing around to either hire out spare locos or find a loco to cover a job at short notice. The Dover sea-wall trains are covered by GBRf, for example, but Freightliner and DBS locos have also turned up on there. Presumably the locos used would otherwise have been idle at Hoo Jct or elsewhere. In the case of this job, what is odd is that both locos on a given train always seem to be from the same FOC.

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How does spot hiring work?   Do (say) DB phone Freightliner and say 'can we borrow a loco for the day?' or is it done via a broker or...?  Any idea how much it costs??

 

Thanks,

Bill

 

It is the same as hiring a car, both FOC's exchange Hire Forms and send them to the accounts, likewise for Traincrew and Loco' fuel!

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Do they also have those forms that show a picture of the loco, and you mark on them where all the dents are before you hire it?

 

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And no - it hasn't run for some weeks now, there's still a big pile of stone at Eccles which has been there since early December.

 

The train you saw was 66119 on 6L90, Peak Forest - Norwich.

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Been a while since I posted any updates but the stone still makes regular appearances - typically twice a month, with occasional longer gaps.

 

A couple of weeks ago the lack of passed ground staff (there was a guy there to complete his training but the instructor was late - and even though all were informed the train was allowed to run to Eccles).

 

02 February 2018

Eccles Road

66170 on 6Z59, 23:24, Dowlow Briggs Sdgs - Eccles Rd Johnston's Sdg (07:18) - loaded stone (16 MMA) - arriving at 06:45

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and having sat around for 30 minutes -with the barriers down - it headed off to (Norwich) Trowse to clear the line.

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It returned around 09:00 - passing 66585 on the Freightliner stone to Trowse

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The train has to run passed the crossover and then set back into the platform

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and then the loco drags the train into the sidings (rather than propelling as in as is the norm)

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I had to leave then as I had work but the loco ran round and then "did the usual" - split the train in two and dragged each half for unloading.

 

later the train was propelled out and then headed West and the lads headed home after a long day

 

66170 on 6Z88, 15:18, Eccles Rd Johnston's Sdg - Dowlow Briggs Sdgs (05:16) - empty stone (16 MMA)

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