grob1234 Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 Gorgeous! Great work Tom. Thank you very much. Also, I notice Tony Wright 'likes this'. I'm delighted! I'm in Jakarta today, which doesn't lend itself to modelling, but all interiors are nearly complete (constructed, not painted), which means I can work on adding the detail, doing the touch ups and adding the glazing. Thanks for looking in and all the best for the New Year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grob1234 Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) Hello folks, Thank you for sticking with it, this is the penultimate update before the completion of this build. Coaches A-H are one their wheels, and just need the bogies securing to their chassis. All the glazing is fitted, but no pictures of this, as you can't see it! I've also added all the door handles and grab rails out of 0.45mm nickel silver wire to A and H. Here are a few shots of third class (brown and green) and first class (red and green). I have tried to be as faithful as I can in reproducing the colours quoted in Harris. I've used a bit of artistic license too. Also the observation car interior is shown. To be honest these shots just highlight the messiness of my work, fortunately not too much of the interiors can be seen once they are inside the coaches. As they are layout coaches, I am not too worried about adding detail; I merely wanted to add the impression that there is something busying up the insides. The observation car is now painted too. It turned out pretty well. I do need to add some lamp irons, and a few bits and bobs at the end. Also noticed a little over-spray in the black, so I will correct that. Interestingly, I thought that these coaches would be heavy with their hand built interiors and whitemetal and brass construction, so I made a comparison. A Hornby K-Type Pullman is about 160g, but one of my standard coaches is only 140g, so I hope that if the bogies are free running enough, then an RTR loco should, in theory be able to pull the rake. We shall see when I test them. The observation car is much heavier, I'll have to weigh that too. Again, cruel close ups, but at 'viewing distance' racing along behind an A4, they shouldn't look too shabby! OK, thats it, next time we should have some shots of the rake in its finished state, although I'm not sure how to photograph it best as its long. Edited January 18, 2016 by grob1234 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted January 18, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 18, 2016 I don't think your work looks messy at all! Thanks for putting the pictures up; looks as though it's coming along very nicely, and I look forward to seeing the finished models. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grob1234 Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 Hello folks, I'm calling this project finished for now. At the moment, the set is calibrated for radius 3 setrack running, which means they are too far apart. When on a layout, I can refine the distance between coaches and I may shorten the buffers to achieve this. Corridor connectors added today (non prototypical), but I feel they are a nice compromise between real life and nothing at all. Overall, its been a great build, and has taken me about 8 months in total. They are layout coaches, and as such are not intended to pass close scrutiny in the way a showcase model might, however, whizzing around behind an A4, I think they will look satisfactory. Hopefully, I have achieved a decent likeness of this iconic train. Thank you to all those who helped out along the way, through this thread, it has been most appreciated. Apologies for the poor, back lit shots, the set is so long there is nowhere in my tiny little flat to picture it properly. Also, the set looks a bit wonky, I can assure you in real life it looks much straighter! Anyway enough excuses, enjoy! 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45568 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Absolutely stunning Tom, given your trepidation at the start, the results are superb! Cheers from Oz, Peter C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grob1234 Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) Absolutely stunning Tom, given your trepidation at the start, the results are superb! Cheers from Oz, Peter C. Thank you very much Peter. It is a kit with some history, and I wanted to retain as much of it as possible, I even used the 30+ year old plasticard for the interior. The only bits I didn't use were the supplied seats and the white metal bogie spacers. Everything else is either from the kit or scratch built. When I next build a set like this (Jubilee when I strike up the courage), then of course I will do things differently, using what I have learnt on this build. With hindsight, it was a tall order as a first OO kit, but if we don't stretch ourselves we can't improve, and I have to admit, I'm rather proud of them. Thanks for looking in. Edited February 4, 2016 by grob1234 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Yes. No more self-criticism ! I've just read this through end-to-end and apart from admiring the outcome I was fascinated by your ingenuity. This was always going to be a challenging build and you have acquitted it magnificently. Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grob1234 Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 Yes. No more self-criticism ! I've just read this through end-to-end and apart from admiring the outcome I was fascinated by your ingenuity. This was always going to be a challenging build and you have acquitted it magnificently. Tony Thank you Tony, it's nice when kits fly together, but I get quite a bit of enjoyment out of using my noggin to get something made too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 They look very good indeed. I don't think anyone has ever come up with a satisfactory way of representing the fairing between carriages. How did you do the beavertail window in the end and what have you used as couplers between the twins? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Very nice work. It may be the white rims or the camera , the wheels look very large in the pictures ? Or is the under frame not yet fitted ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Fantastic stuff! Like all talented modellers you're far too modest - those interiors look exquisite. If you need a suitable layout on which to pose the full train in an appropriate setting then you only have to ask (although I recommend Little Bytham as the ultimate 'stage' for them - the owner's reasonably handy with a camera as well!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold teaky Posted February 4, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 4, 2016 Great work Tom. Good looking train there. What a glorious sight that must have been in the 30s with an A4 at the front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Have you never seen this? Slow to load, but it gets interesting at 05:37 and the money shot starts at 06:26. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold teaky Posted February 4, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 4, 2016 Lovely. Thanks Jonathan. They certainly kept those Coronation coaches cleaned and polished. Plus some Stirling single shots as a bonus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 As far as I recall the carriages were washed - by hand - after each run. I'm not sure if this wasn't used by the soap manufacturer as advertising. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grob1234 Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 They look very good indeed. I don't think anyone has ever come up with a satisfactory way of representing the fairing between carriages. How did you do the beavertail window in the end and what have you used as couplers between the twins? Thank you very much Jonathan. In post 124 http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/100704-oo-lner-coronation-brass-kit-build-sydnope-scale-models/?p=2144768 I made a vacuum forming machine and used that along with a wooden former to make the rear window. Quite a bit of effort, but it worked really well! As for the couplers, I came up with this rather ingenious method... Just hook and goal post... not sure where the inspiration for that came from really... Between the twins, I just used the MJT system you recommended, does a very nice job. Very nice work. It may be the white rims or the camera , the wheels look very large in the pictures ? Or is the under frame not yet fitted ? Hi Mick, thanks for the observation. I got out the Isinglass drawings and measured the wheels at 14mm, so thats 3' 6" in real life, could you confirm this is correct? I checked the kit and they're 14mm too. So, if all is well, they should be to scale, hopefully its just the bright white seemingly enlarging the apparent size of the wheels. Fantastic stuff! Like all talented modellers you're far too modest - those interiors look exquisite. If you need a suitable layout on which to pose the full train in an appropriate setting then you only have to ask (although I recommend Little Bytham as the ultimate 'stage' for them - the owner's reasonably handy with a camera as well!) Thank you very much for these comments, your work on Grantham was the inspiration for all this so I would love to run them on your layout. We hope to move back to Blighty in the next 18 months or so, I'm sure Grantham will still be in existence then? You're right some of Tony's images are passable, as long as he asks my permission first, I'd hate him to just snap away 'willy nilly'... Great work Tom. Good looking train there. What a glorious sight that must have been in the 30s with an A4 at the front. Thanks Teaky, they are just the most impressive sight, and ahead of their time, reminiscent of the Eurostar twins in many ways. As far as I recall the carriages were washed - by hand - after each run. I'm not sure if this wasn't used by the soap manufacturer as advertising. Yes, I believe Harris mentions this in his book. A rexine covering whatever that is. At least I have the excuse to not weather them too much 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Thank you very much Jonathan. In post 124 http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/100704-oo-lner-coronation-brass-kit-build-sydnope-scale-models/?p=2144768 I made a vacuum forming machine and used that along with a wooden former to make the rear window. Quite a bit of effort, but it worked really well! As for the couplers, I came up with this rather ingenious method... Just hook and goal post... not sure where the inspiration for that came from really... Between the twins, I just used the MJT system you recommended, does a very nice job. Hi Mick, thanks for the observation. I got out the Isinglass drawings and measured the wheels at 14mm, so thats 3' 6" in real life, could you confirm this is correct? I checked the kit and they're 14mm too. So, if all is well, they should be to scale, hopefully its just the bright white seemingly enlarging the apparent size of the wheels. Thank you very much for these comments, your work on Grantham was the inspiration for all this so I would love to run them on your layout. We hope to move back to Blighty in the next 18 months or so, I'm sure Grantham will still be in existence then? You're right some of Tony's images are passable, as long as he asks my permission first, I'd hate him to just snap away 'willy nilly'... Thanks Teaky, they are just the most impressive sight, and ahead of their time, reminiscent of the Eurostar twins in many ways. Yes, I believe Harris mentions this in his book. A rexine covering whatever that is. At least I have the excuse to not weather them too much Re wheels , yes 14mm is correct size. It must be the white side walls ?? !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grob1234 Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 Re wheels , yes 14mm is correct size. It must be the white side walls ?? !! I think so, cameras do funny things, yet they say they don't lie. Hmm.... I think this: http://lowres-picturecabinet.com.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/43/main/48/127362.jpg Compares pretty favorably to this (wheel size wise): Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I made a vacuum forming machine and used that Highly ingenious. You slipped that in while I was on holiday. Very good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grob1234 Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 Highly ingenious. You slipped that in while I was on holiday. Very good. Yes, its really model aircraft tech, used to make canopies. The key is to heat the plastic (only certain types work) til its really hot under the grill, then it will work well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Thank you very much for these comments, your work on Grantham was the inspiration for all this so I would love to run them on your layout. We hope to move back to Blighty in the next 18 months or so, I'm sure Grantham will still be in existence then? Well, we have show bookings into 2018 and some expressions of interest for 2019 so I think we should be around! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Beautifully completed models. A rexine covering whatever that is. I believe rexine may have been a type of cloth doped with cellulose nitrate. Durable, decorative and waterproof. All very well unless it catches fire..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagaguy Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 As far as I recall the carriages were washed - by hand - after each run. I'm not sure if this wasn't used by the soap manufacturer as advertising. The soap powder used was LUX,a real blast from the past. Just a bit more useless information Ray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearwater Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 The soap powder used was LUX,a real blast from the past. Just a bit more useless information Ray. Andy Y's probably noting it down for next Christmas' quiz.... Great modelling - there's something about those stylish LNER trains with their coherent rakes. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Not powder but flakes I understand ! Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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