NIRCLASS80 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 I tend to use a 10k resistor to dull the LED's down a little as I find they can be a touch too bright. Jinty Thanks for the info. Time to get started into fitting sound. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueeighties Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) Thanks for the info. Time to get started into fitting sound. That functionality is built into the chip...no need for resistors. I use a Lokprogrammer which makes it very easy, without it the changes could be made via individual cvs. Edited June 24, 2018 by blueeighties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 That functionality is built into the chip...no need for resistors. I use a Lokprogrammer which makes it very easy, without it the changes could be made via individual cvs. Not with the Zimo MX696KS it isn't, which is what I've used in this case. I also prefer to reduce the brightness at source with a comparable resistor to the brightness I require, then if I want any more, or less brightness, I can simply change a CV to do so. Doing it this way, it is set at a brightness I prefer to start with, then it is only minor adjustments. Question: Is the Lokprogrammer capable of working with other manufacturers decoders, or is it ESU based only? Jinty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted September 15, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2018 Painted samples at Hattons https://www.hattons.co.uk/NewsDetail.aspx?id=346 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Penguin 0f Doom Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 I'm afraid the new bodystyle appears to me to have the same issues as the earlier Heljan effort in that the cab doors are too wide, shoving the cab front forward. Granted it's less flat than their earlier bodystyle but it still appears too flat to me. In anticipation of this, I started a conversion of the earlier Heljan class 25 into the later body style in much the same way as we used to do to the 4mm Hornby 25 before Bachmann introduced their later bodystyle model. It's not quite finished yet but progress can be seen on my facebook group here..... https://www.facebook.com/groups/987152598004135/ Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Painted samples at Hattons https://www.hattons.co.uk/NewsDetail.aspx?id=346 Thanks for the link. Have to say that the bodyshell improves the lower cab front no end, and if I were ever to model 7mm i would consider one or two, although I always preferred the character of the boilered ones. I assume there are some kind of black support stands (six) between the underside of the loco and whatever it stands on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 I'm afraid the new bodystyle appears to me to have the same issues as the earlier Heljan effort in that the cab doors are too wide, shoving the cab front forward. Granted it's less flat than their earlier bodystyle but it still appears too flat to me. In anticipation of this, I started a conversion of the earlier Heljan class 25 into the later body style in much the same way as we used to do to the 4mm Hornby 25 before Bachmann introduced their later bodystyle model. It's not quite finished yet but progress can be seen on my facebook group here..... https://www.facebook.com/groups/987152598004135/ Cheers. As a modeller "Penguin" i fully support your decision 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted September 22, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) I thought the new version looked miles better - especially the painted samples.. I was very lucky and bought a Jltrt on e bay a month before their announcement (at a sensible price) and the front does still look more curved though. Edited September 22, 2018 by Hal Nail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delticfan Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) I’m fine with it. Can’t be bothered waiting for MM1 to issue a kit that’s going to cost the neck end of £800 to buy and complete when I can buy this decent rendition ready made. Edited September 23, 2018 by delticfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) With reference to one of the Hattons 25/3 photos, (which I borrowed) and one of my own I took of No2 cab of 25296. Hereford, July 1984, you can conpare the new Heljan models cab with the prototype. Personally I think it looks good, but I'm not 100% convinced the length of the headcode box is quite right in proportion to the cab roof length, in relation to the prototype. Paul J. Edited to change prototype photo after finding better ones of the correct body style. Edited September 24, 2018 by Swindon 123 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted September 24, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 24, 2018 If i put numbers on that badly I’d start again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 GAUGE ‘O’ CLASS 25/3 SET FOR UK RELEASE NEXT WEEKImage Courtesy Mike Wild/Hornby MagazineAll-new Derby/Sulzer Type 2 with later style body in transit and due to reach Heljan UK stockists in mid-October. Five versions available in BR two-tone green and pre-TOPS or post-TOPS BR blue.Heljan’s latest ‘O’ gauge BR diesel locomotive is the popular Derby/Sulzer Type 2 in final Class 25/3 guise. Five versions have been produced, covering a cross-section of BR green and BR blue liveries and a choice of pristine orfactory weathered versions. The model represents the ultimate development of the 478 Derby/Sulzer Type 2s, which started with Class 24 in the late-1950s. Our model covers the final batches, built by Derby Works and Beyer, Peacock of Manchesterbetween December 1963 and April 1967.The new Heljan Class 25/3 will feature our renowned high-performance twin motor chassis with all-wheel drive and all-wheel pick-up, powered roof fan, illuminated headcode panels and marker lights, and provision for theinstallation of DCC and sound.Suggested retail price is £525.00 and all models are available to order now from your local Heljan stockist.Heljan O GAUGE CLASS 25/3 MODELS2555 – BR two-tone green with small yellow panels unnumbered2556 – BR two-tone green with full yellow ends unnumbered2557 – BR Rail Blue with full yellow ends (pre-TOPS, twin BR arrows)unnumbered2558 – BR Rail Blue with full yellow ends (TOPS era, single, central double arrows) unnumbered2559 – BR Rail blue with full yellow eends (TOPS era, single, central double arrows) unnumbered WEATHERED 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
class27 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) A surprise announcement then ! Are there any actual pictures of the variants as produced? Was the weathered version a custom one off job? Would like to see pics of the actual production models before taking the plunge Its going to be an expensive Q3 and Q4 of 2018 Edited October 9, 2018 by class27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRat Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Does the released version have the correct 'holed' wheels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueeighties Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Likey. DSC_0025 by rothburyuk, on Flickr DSC_0018 by rothburyuk, on Flickr DSC_0017 by rothburyuk, on Flickr DSC_0012 by rothburyuk, on Flickr DSC_0011 by rothburyuk, on Flickr DSC_0005 by rothburyuk, on Flickr DSC_0003 by rothburyuk, on Flickr 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Thanks for those images "Blueeighties". If I modelled in 7mm I wouldn't be able to resist one of these, and it is a vast improvement on the earlier boilered version which I couldn't live with. The improvements done on this model far and away surpass the earlier model, match the quality of the Derby/Sulzer type 4, and knock the class 50 cab ends out of the park. If all Heljan products can be this good henceforth then perhaps they have turned a corner - notwithstanding the backs of the headcode boxes are still too long, but I could like with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Does the released version have the correct 'holed' wheels? no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delticfan Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Nice model going to order a bluey, no one moaning it’s the wrong shape yet lol...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) Nice model going to order a bluey, no one moaning it’s the wrong shape yet lol...! OK lets start lol, Cab door window slightly too low at top (see pics in post 210 to compare) and I hope the triagular access panel is flush as the real thing is recessed into the body Edited October 24, 2018 by 25901 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddys-blues Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Nice model going to order a bluey, no one moaning it’s the wrong shape yet lol...!. Give it time .... they are like buses, there will be 2 or 3 along soon at the same time !!! I can’t wait to get mine and play with it ....... life is far too short to worry about it being incorrect by approx a Gnat’s knob length here and there, or this window is out by X, and this panel is out by Y, and then there are those who complain and lambast the model and finish off with those imortal words “ I Model in 4mm so I wasn’t buying one anyway” or “ I don’t do Diesels so I won’t be buying one anyway” Anyway, well done Heljan, this is a great 7mm - RTR Model Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 I do 4mm and don't do 7mm. But as some may know I do 1ft/12" . I'm not knocking Heljan and I thank them for doing a model just as I thank Bachmann and SLW for there offering. At the moment we are blessed with great offering and at the time when the Class 25s are about to shine again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Why do I look at the front of this loco and think Cyberman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philiprporter Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Wow that looks good!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 I cant wait to get my mits on mine, once Jintyman has fitted the Sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRat Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 no Shame as it's a very important feature of the prototype.....a bit like spoked wheels or the wheels on a Western. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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