RMweb Premium Simon Lee Posted December 9, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 9, 2023 3 hours ago, JeffP said: Is the first photo really 2000? Was it some sort of preservation photo opportunity? It was a dockside photo charters that were in vogue in the early 2000s before port security was increased in the UK. IIRC the same group organsed and event at Goole using the Pug based on the Worth Valley. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Simon Lee Posted December 9, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 9, 2023 2 hours ago, john new said: I thought petrol tanks were the silver one’s that needed barrier wagons, the black carried the less volatile products like tar/bitumen and without need for barrier wagons. Can someone please confirm? That is correct, the cars in the photo are actually of the black variety, guess you can class the contents "Petroleum Products" as opposed to petrol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 The Pug at Goole I do remember, and have seen pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 7 hours ago, Simon Lee said: It was a dockside photo charters that were in vogue in the early 2000s before port security was increased in the UK. Yes, the shipping equivalent of the aviation industry's increased security, the ISPS Code, came in at the end of 2001, shortly after the 9/11 atrocities. mark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted December 9, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 9, 2023 Good evening, everyone. This evening, we have three photo’s by knoxrj, on Flickr, and one by John Turner, on Flickr. The first one is of class V2, 2-6-2, 60946, at Scarborough, on a departing extra train in the mid 1950’s. The second photo’ is of another class V2, 2-6-2, 60947, on the climb up Enthorpe bank, from Market Weighton, again in the mid 1950’s. Thirdly, we have a photo’ of D17/2, 1910, on a local train from Bridlington, near Cottingham South Junction, in c1935. Finally, here’s a photo’ of Dairycoates allocated WD "Austerity" 2-8-0, 90352, as it shunts Shell / BP 35T, GLW,petroleum tank wagons at Saltend, in c1967. Best regards, Rob. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Simon Lee Posted December 9, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 9, 2023 2 hours ago, MarkC said: Yes, the shipping equivalent of the aviation industry's increased security, the ISPS Code, came in at the end of 2001, shortly after the 9/11 atrocities. mark Couldnt remember the initials of the code I was thinking about when I posted earlier. I and a few others had permits for all the Humber Ports at the time, IIRC we got a years grace then they were withdrawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 10, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 09/12/2023 at 09:46, john new said: I thought petrol tanks were the silver one’s that needed barrier wagons, the black carried the less volatile products like tar/bitumen and without need for barrier wagons. Can someone please confirm? He did say 'petroleum' not petrol - pedantic bit there but is a difference because 'petroleum' covers a range of UN numbers, Hazchem codes, and flash points. Those actually look like Class B cars so might be ok . The Regulations regarding barrier wagons changed quite alot over the years so you need a date for any particular set of Regulations and instructions and i don;t have time now to go through it all over a long period if years sorry (dinner is calling!!!) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Market65 Posted December 10, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2023 Good evening, everyone. This evening se have three photo’s by knoxrj, on Flickr, and one by Richard Stewart, on Flickr. The first one shows class A5, 69811, at South Howden, taking water, in c1955. Next we have a photo’ of class D11, 5501, Mons, at Park Street, sometime in the 1950’s. The third photo’ is of class B4, 1482, Immingham, seen entering Driffield, from the Market Weighton line, with the 09.38 Bradford to Bridlington extra train, just after WWll. Note the green livery. Finally, here’s a photo’ which takes us up to date. 37419 "Driver Tony Kay" powers up off the 25mph speed restriction at Beverley on train, 3J51, the York Thrall to York Thrall via East Yorkshire RHTT, with 37422 on the rear, on the 27th October, 2023. Best regards, Rob. 26 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45125 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 2 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: He did say 'petroleum' not petrol - pedantic bit there but is a difference because 'petroleum' covers a range of UN numbers, Hazchem codes, and flash points. Those actually look like Class B cars so might be ok . The Regulations regarding barrier wagons changed quite alot over the years so you need a date for any particular set of Regulations and instructions and i don;t have time now to go through it all over a long period if years sorry (dinner is calling!!!) Those are lagged tanks so will be used for products which require to be kept warmish. Coming from Salted they could be Gas Oil, Methanol, Isopropanol or Isopropyl Acetate. Al Taylor 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Market65 Posted December 11, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2023 Good evening, everyone. This evening, here’s another four photo’s. The first one is courtesy of Richard Stewart, then 54A Photography, Charlie Verrall, and finally, John Turner. So, the first one shows, on the 27th November, 2023, 37407 "Blackpool Tower" passing Cottingham on train, 3J51, the York Thrall to York Thrall via East Yorkshire RHTT, with 37419 on the rear. Next we have a photo’ of Robinson Class D11/1 4-4-0, 62667, ‘Somme', as it stands in Northstead carriage sidings, Scarborough, on the 26th July, 1953. The third photo’ is of LNER B1 class, built by the North British Locomotive co entering service numbered 1071 August 1946. Renumbered 61071 April 1948 and withdrawn February 1963. It appears to be on an excursion train. Finally, here’s a photo’ of, and this is from the caption as detailed by John Turner, ‘British Railways Motive Power York Steam Breakdown Crane DE331151 at Sculcoates, Hull, in c July, 1964. Built by Cowans Sheldon in 1916 for the NER, 35ton capacity. Although written for York, where it had been from 1932 it had moved to Hull in March 1963 and condemned November 1967. The Match Wagon appears to be the original, a conversion of a well wagon built in 1899 and originally numbered 9024’. Best regards, Rob. 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Market65 Posted December 12, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2023 Good evening, everyone. This evening, we have four more photo’s. They are courtesy of George Woods, on Flickr, knoxrj, and John Turner. The first one shows 37419, at Hutton Cranswick Station, on the 9th December, 2023. It was the last day of the “Leaf Buster Trains” for 2023. The question is asked, will we see them next year? The second photo’ is one of class B9, 6113, at Hull Paragon station, sometime in 1932, departing with a train of ex-NER non corridor carriages. Next we have a photo’ of class J25, 5690, on a goods train, Trip number 29, from Hull, at Ferriby, in 1947. Finally, here’s a photo’ of Generator, 47411, as it departs Scarborough with a westbound train, passing Falsgrave signal box and signal gantry on the 30th June, 1984. Best regards, Rob. 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Hayter Posted December 12, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 12, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 22:38, 45125 said: Those are lagged tanks so will be used for products which require to be kept warmish. Coming from Salted they could be Gas Oil, Methanol, Isopropanol or Isopropyl Acetate. Al Taylor Gas Oil possibly but Methanol, Isopropyl Acetate and Isopropanol do not need to be kept warm. Indeed due to their flammability it is preferable to keep them at ambient temperature. Or perhaps lagged tanks were used to keep cold material below ambient temperatures. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45125 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Andy Hayter said: Gas Oil possibly but Methanol, Isopropyl Acetate and Isopropanol do not need to be kept warm. Indeed due to their flammability it is preferable to keep them at ambient temperature. Or perhaps lagged tanks were used to keep cold material below ambient temperatures. Those items were conveyed at one time in those tanks. Some other odd items were conveyed from Saltend in lagged tanks, even the 'vinegar ' tanks had lagging on them, remember rerriveting some of the panels back on them when an apprentice as well as other jobs on those tanks 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Market65 Posted December 13, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2023 Good evening, everyone. This evening, we have four more photo’s, the first two by Andy Hughes, on Flickr, and two by knoxrj, on Flickr. The first photo’ is of 37422 `Victorious' as it leads train, 3J51, the 09:50 York Thrall Europa to York Thrall Europa, past Arram, on Monday the 11th December, 2023. Then, the second photo’ shows 56104, as it passes Lowfield Lane, Melton, at the head of train, 6D54, a Hedon Road Sidings to Doncaster Belmont Yard, on the 30th May, 2003. Next we have a photo’ of class B1, 61049, as it uses the crossover at Little Weighton, at Christmas, 1958. Finally, this is a photo’ of a well known railtour train from June, 1957. D49/1, 62731, Selkirkshire, is the engine as seen at Wharram, on the Driffield to Malton line. Best regards, Rob. 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post micknich2003 Posted December 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 14, 2023 H&BRly Class B No94, said to be near York. E Bay buy, no further details. 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Market65 Posted December 14, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) Good evening, everyone. Firstly, thank you, Mick, for posting that excellent photo’ of H&BRly Class B, 94, said to be near York. It could be near York, but I cannot recognise exactly where. A crossover is visible. Now, for this evening we have four photo’s by knoxrj, on Flickr. The first one is of class J23, 2457, in Springhead shops, on the 6th May, 1933. The second photo’ shows class Q10, 2510, at Springhead shed, according to the caption, prior to 1927. Thirdly we have a photo’ of class D24, 2429, at Scarborough, on Wednesday 11th July, 1934. Finally here’s a photo’ of class N12, 9089, at Hull Springhead shed, in what appears to be the late 1940’s. Best regards, Rob. Edited December 14, 2023 by Market65 To add two numbers. 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Market65 Posted December 15, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2023 Good evening, everyone. This evening we have four more photo’s to enjoy by knoxrj, on Flickr. The first photo’ is of class J28, 2412, in Springhead works, in possibly the early 1930’s. The next photo’ shows class D20, 724, at Hull Paragon station, in probably the early 1930’s again. Next we have a photo’ of class D24, 2429, at Springhead Works. No date is given, but it is probably again the 1930’s. Finally, here’s a photo’ of class D20, 2021, at Beverley station, on a train to either Bridlington or York, again in the 1930’s. Best regards, Rob. 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Market65 Posted December 16, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2023 Good evening, everyone. This evening, we have four more photo’s with the first two by John Law, then Woolwinder, and knoxrj, on Flickr. The first one shows class A8, 1501, on, according to the caption, Scarborough shed, in what may be the late 1930’s. The second photo’ is one of 2524, in LNER condition, on Alexandra Dock shed yard. Note the shunters pole on the side of the bunker. The third photo’ is a view of 37252, at Eastgate South footbridge, on a PWay train, Driffield, on the 19th January, 1986. Finally, we have a photo’ of classes B6 and B7, on an excursion from Bridlington, near Cottingham South Junction. No date given, but could be the early 1930’s. The carriages appear to be all ex-GCR. Best regards, Rob. 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Market65 Posted December 17, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2023 Good evening, everyone. This evening we have four photo’s, and they are courtesy of Matt Fisher, and knoxrj, on Flickr. The first one is from the last week of 2023's RHTT operation along the Yorkshire coast, with the driver of 37425 'Concrete Bob' applying the power passing the site of the long closed Carnaby station, on Friday the 15th December, 2023. The second photo’ is a view of class J21, 1513, on a Beverley Race special, at Hull Paragon station in 1932. The next photo’ shows class J25, 2070, at North Howden, on a pickup, in c1933. Note the loading gauge. Finally, here’s a photo’ of class J24, 1934, seen at Brough, in October,1938. Best regards, Rob. 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Market65 Posted December 18, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2023 Good evening, everyone. This evening we have four photo’s with three by knoxrj, on Flickr, and Richard Stewart. The first one is of class D20, 2011, on the turntable at Scarborough shed, on the 26th August, 1933. The second photo’ is a shot of EB1 No 10, at Beverley Cherry Tree, in what will be the 1930’s. The Golden Ball Brewery can be seen to the left. The third photo’ is a shot of class J26, 517, light engine, at Hessle. No date is given, but it must again be the 1930’s. Finally, we have a photo’ of 37407 "Blackpool Tower" as it passes Hessle Foreshire on train, 3J51, York Thrall to York Thrall via East Yorkshire RHTT, with 37422 on the rear. Best regards, Rob. 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl Tooley Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Market65 said: The second photo’ is a shot of EB1 No 10, at Beverley Cherry Tree, in what will be the 1930’s. The Golden Ball Brewery can be seen to the left This is Y1 No 100, 106 or 108 (the third digit being obscured by the buffer), a Sentinel steam shunter rather than an electric engine. On 15/12/2023 at 19:20, Market65 said: Next we have a photo’ of class D24, 2429, at Springhead Works. No date is given, but it is probably again the 1930’s This photo appears in volume 3 of Brian Stephenson's 'LNER Album', credited to T E Rounthwaite. The date is given as February 10 1934, the engine being in store shortly before being withdrawn. D Edited December 18, 2023 by Darryl Tooley Punctuation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Market65 Posted December 19, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2023 Good evening, everyone. Firstly, thank you, Darryl Tooley, for the information concerning Y1 No 100, 106 or 108, and also the date for the photo’ of class D24, 2429, at Springhead Works, which is February 10 1934. Now for this evening, we have three photo’s courtesy of knoxrj, on Flickr, and one by Richard Stewart, on Flickr. Firstly we have a photo’ of class D17, 1626, at Hull Paragon, in c1932. Next here’s a photo’ of class B1, 61009, Hartebeeste, at Botanic Gardens, in possibly the late 1940’s. The third photo’ is one which shows class J25, 5728, seen on the Cudworth Pickup, on Eppleworth Viaduct, on the 21st August, 1946. Finally, we have a photo’ of 37407 "Blackpool Tower" as it passes Beswick Road, on train, 3J51, from York Thrall to York Thrall via East Yorkshire RHTT, with 37419 on the rear. Best regards, Rob. 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl Tooley Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 9 hours ago, Market65 said: Next here’s a photo’ of class B1, 61009, Hartebeeste, at Botanic Gardens, in possibly the late 1940’s. An interesting photo; the first 10 B1s were initially numbered 8301-10, being renumbered 1000-9 in 1946, and photographs of them with their original number are few and far between. According to 'Yeadon's Register' vol 6, No 8310 entered traffic in June 1944 and became No 1009 in March 1946. However, it was transferred from Neville Hill to Parkeston in January 1945, after which it was a deal less likely to have been seen in Hull, I should have thought. D 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Market65 Posted December 20, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 20, 2023 Good evening, everyone. Thank you, Darryl Tooley, for the information about class B1, Hartebeeste. Now, this evening, we have four photo’s, with two courtesy of knoxrj, on Flickr, and one by Andy Hughes, on Flickr, and one by John Turner, also on Flickr. The first photo’ shows Darlington built (1947), Thompson LNER B1, 4-6-0, 61032 "Stembok" (50B), at Brough with a Hull bound Class A passenger trains, in circa January, 1965. The next photo’ is of the well recorded railtour train, with class D49/1, 62731, Selkirkshire, on the approach to Sledmere, on the 23rd June, 1957. Now, is that signal properly off or on - this photo’ has puzzled me for some time. I suspect it is off… The third photo’ shows a view of that other railtour train, which have seen in other photo’s. It is class J25, 65714, on the DVLR at Thorganby station, in the 1950’s. Finally, we have a photo’ of 37401 `Mary Queen of Scots' working train, 3J51, the 09:50 York Thrall Europa - York Thrall Europa, as it opens up on the approach Beverley Parks crossing, on the 16th October, 2023. Best regards, Rob. 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium iands Posted December 20, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, Market65 said: The next photo’ is of the well recorded railtour train, with class D49/1, 62731, Selkirkshire, on the approach to Sledmere, on the 23rd June, 1957. Now, is that signal properly off or on - this photo’ has puzzled me for some time. I suspect it is off… Could it just be that the photographer clicked the camera shutter whilst the signal was still being pulled to the full off position? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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