Grovenor Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 The wide diagonal bar also appears much closer to the grill mesh, being more prominent than on the model, where it appears recessed. Perhaps EE Brian will consider producing a more accurate replacement that would resolve this issue ? Talking of diagonal framing, the pic of D5034 on post #518 shows that almost all of the structural framing shows through the skin, a challenge the mold makers have not met. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium SKELTON15 Posted December 14, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 14, 2015 What we need is a holiday. So how about modelling 24081 towing 3 static caravans? http://www.2d53.co.uk/llanfairpg/caravan.htm You couldn't make it up as they say. Plenty of type 2 inspiration on this excellent site. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torr Giffard LSWR 1951-71 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 ....maybe they had signs in the loos of the caravans asking for flushes not to be done in stations. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimbus Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) My point was that the reinforcing bars are behnd the grill, the toolmaker for the model has put them in front. D5018 - Copy.JPG It appears from this prototype photo that the vertical bars aren't actually part of the grille, and lie behind the body framing, possibly tying the top and bottom of the radiator itself together. In fact, they're not so much bars as tie-rods, and being circular section won't present a plane face to reflect light to anywhere near the extent the model ones do. The Nim. Edited December 14, 2015 by Nimbus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37081LochLong Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 We understand that some people aren't happy with the grill, one person to the point of refusing to buy one because of it despite all its other merits, I honestly don't think SLW are going to be able to rectify this to everyone's satisfaction because there will be far too few slats or vertical slats that can't be seen followed by oh yes they can, to them all being the same height or it being too prominent... And so on and so on! So no matter what SLW do to improve it on the next batch someone is going to latch on to this grill fixation and say "yes, better... But they still have this bit wrong..." And we will just have a repeat of this thread again. This has been going on for so many pages now and every time someone tries to lighten the mood and move on to other aspects someone comes back to start the grill debate again We get it! Can we just move on now to talk about other stuff, this has been debated to death and surely we don't need it getting blown out of proportion? This loco is surely more than just a grill isn't it? Please can we move on and make this a friendly thread and not one about a single item or a place to attack someone else? Like I mentioned earlier this loco and thread brought me out of lurking on the forum for years to actually contributing and I'd hate to revert to just lurking but this is going on too long and turning me to hate the forum again... A forum about a hobby, a hobby that should be fun! We know certain mistakes should be pointed out but when does it reach the point of overkill? Sorry if some of you don't agree but I got back in to modelling when my dad had a severe stroke and became bed bound and I became his carer and I needed something fun and calming to do while I look after him and all the stress that entails. And its something he can enjoy looking at but I see the fun being drained out of it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37081LochLong Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Just to lighten things My photos of D5061 on the NYMR on the 27th of May 2010 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) Just to lighten things My photos of D5061 on the NYMR on the 27th of May 2010 D5061_01.jpg D5061_02.jpg D5061_03.jpg I don't know what the NYMR were thinking, plain green with orange cantrail stripes and modern OHLE flashes. And the roof weathering is rubbish, everyone knows that pro weathered locos have black roofs not streaky rusty brown ones. Pahh, I won't be buying it Edited December 14, 2015 by black and decker boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovenor Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 It appears from this prototype photo that the vertical bars aren't actually part of the grille, and lie behind the body framing, possibly tying the top and bottom of the radiator itself together. In fact, they're not so much bars as tie-rods, and being circular section won't present a plane face to reflect light to anywhere near the extent the model ones do. The Nim. How do you deduce all of that from a picture where the verticals are not visible? Or are you referring to another picture that you forgot to attach? Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37081LochLong Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I don't know what the NYMR were thinking, plain green with orange cantrail stripes and modern OHLE flashes. And the roof weathering is rubbish, everyone knows that pro weathered locos have black roofs not streaky rusty brown ones. Pahh, I won't be buying it Haha I love the rusty brown roof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phatbob Posted December 14, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2015 I don't know what the NYMR were thinking, plain green with orange cantrail stripes and modern OHLE flashes. And the roof weathering is rubbish, everyone knows that pro weathered locos have black roofs not streaky rusty brown ones. Pahh, I won't be buying it Me neither. The NYMR have also missed off the extra set of footsteps on one bogie that lined up with the cut-out ladder up the side to reach the roof mounted water filler that was fitted to locos in original condition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesfeldian Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Just to lighten things My photos of D5061 on the NYMR on the 27th of May 2010 D5061_01.jpg D5061_02.jpg D5061_03.jpg Nice grill detail but they don't look quite right to my expert eye. :sungum: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Sorry if I have missed something but where can I buy one of these models. Been on the Rail Exclusive web site but nothing on there about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torr Giffard LSWR 1951-71 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) ...ring Phil on 01780 470086 This is the web address for the new model http://sulzertype2.co.uk/page.php?p=home Dave Edited December 14, 2015 by Torr Giffard LSWR 1951-71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 cheera Dave will do Many than ks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37081LochLong Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 ...ring Phil on 01780 470086 This is the web address for the new model http://sulzertype2.co.uk/page.php?p=home Dave I thought we had to wait for it to appear on the site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torr Giffard LSWR 1951-71 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 ....apologies, didn't see that instruction. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted December 14, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 14, 2015 I thought we had to wait for it to appear on the site? Me too - I checked the web-site first thing this morning as Monday 14th had been mentioned - nothing. Perhaps, as Dave is apparently the RMweb mouthpiece for SLW, he could ascertain ASAP exactly when we potential new customers might be able to place an order. One thing's for certain; no matter how good the Class 24 is alleged to be, SLW's communications skills leave a lot to be desired !! Regards, John Isherwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon s Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Seems pretty clear to me.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37081LochLong Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Yep, the way I read it on the contact page of the website was that previous customers would get first option then the rest would be available from the the website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted December 14, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2015 Me too - I checked the web-site first thing this morning as Monday 14th had been mentioned - nothing. Perhaps, as Dave is apparently the RMweb mouthpiece for SLW, he could ascertain ASAP exactly when we potential new customers might be able to place an order. One thing's for certain; no matter how good the Class 24 is alleged to be, SLW's communications skills leave a lot to be desired !! Regards, John Isherwood. John.This is a two-person outfit. I recommend that you do what I did last Sat. Pick up the phone. Isn't it about time we ceased the endless bickering and sniping that has dogged this thread since it was started ? If there are issues still....and there seem to be.....are they not best aired in PM form ? It is a shame that a new model and manufacturer is greeted with such sour overtones.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovenor Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 John.This is a two-person outfit. I recommend that you do what I did last Sat. Pick up the phone. And as a 2 person outfit with a lot to do they probably don't want the phone ringing every couple of minutes and would prefer you followed the guidance on their website. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torr Giffard LSWR 1951-71 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 ....I suspect that he won't be turning down any sales, even if it means hiring an extra pair of hands for a day or two. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37081LochLong Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 ....I suspect that he won't be turning down any sales, even if it means hiring an extra pair of hands for a day or two. Dave True but I've been really looking forward to this loco and i'd rather ensure I get one without people jumping the queue by not following the instructions on their website which is very clear On another note, Has anyone who has already got one started any modifications yet? (weathering? renumbering?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torr Giffard LSWR 1951-71 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 ....not seen any yet but we're bound to get pics posted here. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 On another note, Has anyone who has already got one started any modifications yet? (weathering? renumbering?) Sorry not at the moment. I have D5000 that is waiting to have a SYP added to the front, but I also have to modify the water tank to the smaller one for this version. Unfortunately it is behind in the queue for attention behind a batch of 37's. Originally going to be in blue as D5000, but didn't have the heart to overspray the original paint job. Paul J. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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