David Todd Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Setting out and assembly of the rebar. Looking West. P1430555 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430554 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430556 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430558 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430560 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430559 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr From top of the tunnels. P1430576 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430590 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430577 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430587 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430588 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430591 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430592 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430595 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430596 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430601 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430608 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 From the top of the cliff path. P1430632 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430631 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430630 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430628 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430627 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430625 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430612 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 So what are they going to do next? Cast a layer of concrete on the reinforcement they've laid out, then flame cut the tops of the vertical bars flush with the finished surface? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 The site West to East, this morning. P1430591 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430587 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430586 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430585 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430584 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430583 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430582 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430581 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430579 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Red Rig is drilling. P1430561 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430562 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr Yellow rig, close the the lorry that is being unloaded by the large crane. P1430569 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430549 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430550 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430551 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Various photos. P1430575 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430575 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430565 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430566 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430567 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430614 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430617 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 After the site visit, a bucket of coffee, with Nigel, outside the White Cliffs hotel on Dover prom, in the morning heat. P1430636 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430642 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430644 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430652 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430653 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430637 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430639 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430640 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430641 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr The walk back home. P1430660 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr You can now see the castle, now they have demolished the skyscraper. P1430661 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430663 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 7, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 7, 2016 So what are they going to do next? Cast a layer of concrete on the reinforcement they've laid out, then flame cut the tops of the vertical bars flush with the finished surface? The picture at post 2141 suggests to me that the concrete deck of the viaduct will be much thicker than the current depth of rebar and extends several inches (at least) above the top of the rebar poking out of the piles. So presumably there is a lot more steel to go in before any concrete can be poured as laying it in relatively thin layers would strike me as asking for trouble in years to come. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukebox Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) So what are they going to do next? Cast a layer of concrete on the reinforcement they've laid out, then flame cut the tops of the vertical bars flush with the finished surface? That first layer of reo is the bottom floor of the reinforcing steel "cage". They will tie those "U" bars on each end I mentioned yesterday - and that are in dt's photo below - and then lace another almost identical layer on the top of it - approx. 800mm above - and also, I would imagine, interlaced with the reo poking out from the piles. There probably will also be "L" shaped steels, "lapped" (inverted, and wired in on those pile caps) to spread the loads - otherwise the piles would just punch through the concrete slab cast on top. I can't find a photo of what I am trying to describe, but the detail on the top right of this drawing is close: You can see these are the "hairpins" and the other steel in this photo *could* be the "L" but I am not 100% sure. The thing about concrete is that it is brilliant in compression, horrible in tension. That is why the steel is there - it will take almost all of the tension loads. And that is why it is normally placed only 30-50mm below the outside surface of the concrete - as the outside edges are the ones in tension, not the middle of the slab. Steel in the middle of a concrete beam will have little impact on the strength of a reinforced structure. I agree with The Stationmaster - don't think the steel poking out the piles will be cut - the concrete is likely to be 50mm higher when finished than the tips of those bars. I'd also be surprised if they bend the bars on site - it's a pain in the rear (they are probably ~20mm dia, and quite stiff!) , and impossible to do with any finesse on site. They *could* just splay them out, but lapping with elbows is more likely in my experience. Cheers Scott Edited June 8, 2016 by jukebox Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold unravelled Posted June 8, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 8, 2016 Leaving the edges clear(Ish) may help with safe access, but I wonder if precast edge sections will be craned in before the pour. As well as a quicker/neater edge, it would act as the side shuttering. Thanks Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 I agree, the steel height out of the piles is there for a reason. I did think at one stage, once the mesh had been established, that steel I beams may have been fitted between the pile head's, But am doubting this now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukebox Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Keep an eye on the channel this morning, dt. The Russians are coming! https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/08/british-navy-intercepts-russian-submarine-channel-nato Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Keep an eye on the channel this morning, dt. The Russians are coming! https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/08/british-navy-intercepts-russian-submarine-channel-nato Yes,heard it ont news, But doubt if I will see anything,this was the viz a couple of minutes ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Today's visit via the iPad. 1130 1230 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Today's visit, was from 1130 to 1400 hours, a hot day,with zephyr's. I have again chosen a few photo's,before I upload the bulk of camera photos,to Flickr. The progress of building the reinforcing for Raft 1. P1430698 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430703 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430705 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430757 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430770 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430771 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430772 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430774 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430776 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430783 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430792 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Keep an eye on the channel this morning, dt. The Russians are coming! https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/08/british-navy-intercepts-russian-submarine-channel-nato Ships that pass. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 I have had problem,uploading to Flickr,over several hour's, so I will only give two photo's, of when I left at 1400. This is how much they had achieved in the assembly. P1430926 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430927 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted June 8, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 8, 2016 They're certainly cracking on with that raft. Thanks for the updates David Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) Morning, There may not be any photos next Sunday, as I will be at Chatham Model Railway Exhibition for the day. I will take a trip up the site late this morning,when low cloud and mist have burnt back. Yesterday, I reset my camera,back to factory setting s, this may have had the effect of a very slow upload to Flickr, Taking two minutes per picture, with 250 to upload. Previously it would be less than 5 seconds per picture. Looking at the progress of the reinforcing , I agree with Jukeboxs post and diagrams, The front of the raft has its U pieces fitted, the landward side has most U s fitted, as I left yesterday, a lot of U s were being fitted to the seaward side. Initially, the spacers at ground level to set out, thought to be wood then metal,they do turn out to be plastic, noted by the way the crew were picking them up and throwing them around. The concrete pour crew, were at a bit of a loss yesterday, the remaining pile heads had been uncovered, set concrete removed, But, the stone to cover the surrounding surfaces had not been laid nor compacted,this could have been due to the large crane,sitting at the end of Raft 2, feeding steels to the reinforcing crew. The site was tight for traffic flow yesterday, two rigs drilling,two other cranes working, mixers in and out filling drilled holes,diggers and tippers,removing waste spoil, none of these seemed to be available for the concrete pour crew,to finish the pour for raft 1. I will see if it has been done overnight,when I visit later. If you look at the last two photos I posted, you will see, "the wall" is having angled wood shuttering made up. Also, it is lined up with Raft 1 to be tied in with the U pieces and the old rail connecting the wooden trestle to the old Seawall. A spoil train has arrived at Dover Priory this morning,six minutes early. Predicted date for having normal passenger trains running, is 25/09/16. Edited June 9, 2016 by David Todd 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) They're certainly cracking on with that raft. Thanks for the updates David Jamie As you live/view at a distance,why not pack your saddlebags and pedal down for a couple of days for on site viewing.They will not have finished the project, by the time you get here. Am sure Jukebox would like a 24 hour visit, but, at present, there are no online cheap, Day Return Tickets, available from Australia. Edited June 9, 2016 by David Todd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 When I left, yesterday. P1430926 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Yes,heard it ont news, But doubt if I will see anything,this was the viz a couple of minutes ago. image.jpeg Couple of photos from Nigel's website, DoverMarina.com 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 9, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) When I left, yesterday. P1430926 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr The rebar covered area seems to extend much further beyond the piles on the seaward side than on the landward side - wonder why although maybe it is to make room for the 'splash barrier' wall on the seaward side? No doubt the Russian ship was looking after their (Kilo Class?) submarine - afraid someone might pinch it? Edited June 9, 2016 by The Stationmaster 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted June 9, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) The rebar covered area seems to extend much further beyond the piles on the seaward side than on the landward side - wonder why although maybe it is to make room for the 'splash barrier' wall on the seaward side? No doubt the Russian ship was looking after their submarine - afraid someone might pinch it? Obviously there to pick up any would be defectors on the way past, old habit die hard. Dave, I would love to come and spend a few days there. Unfortunately the ayatollah has me fully engaged in packing for a trip to France via Bournemouth and Portsmouth and divorces can be expensive. My main concern at the moment is how to secrete various modelling items in the trailer tomorrow. Jamie Edited June 9, 2016 by jamie92208 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Maybe,up at the site today at 1300 hours, cloud burnt back,is not due until 1500 hours.. Some photos,of the site yesterday, from the delayed upload. By the time another layer of reinforcing is set on top of what you see now,then the concrete poured it's level will then be at a point, where ballast is placed, making it level with the original trackwork at the tunnel mouth's. P1430937 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1430708 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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