lmsforever Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Looking at the old rail used as supports connected to the wall make me wonder if they put a considerable stress over years on the wall causing weakness throughout the area of the wall? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Although the shuttering on the seaward side will presumably be braced against the wall plus that nit of concrete they put in a few days ago. One think which fascinates me is that there doesn't seem to be going to be very much thickness of concrete on the outer edges of the sides which I would have thought might leave it more readily prone to damage? Pre cast your mind back to this. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 The bus out to Megger/Avo roundabout this morning. Site visit 0900-1000 hours. Overlooking, Eastend of the site. Pair of 66s in with 20 wagons. Filling up with old sleepers and spoil. The two rigs are working pile holes for Raft 3 at the Seawall. More material has been removed across the Trackbed for the drainage duct. The seaward concrete outlet has being half demolished by a digger working over the Seawall . Should have used Semtex, a very strong toilet cleaner. The side shuttering for Raft 1and it's reinforcing for the side wall are going up at a pace. The exposure of pile heads for the west section of Raft 2, is nearly complete with most of the re bar clean. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Walking up from the Megger roundabout,along the path overlooking the site,to the top of Shakey. Most of the viewing points,are turning useless for photos,the vegetation grow in height rapidly. These photos are from the iPad, until I upload the camera photos. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Continued 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 More. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 14, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 14, 2016 Pre cast your mind back to this. image.jpeg Yes - that is part of what makes me wonder about the thickness of the concrete along the edge of the viaduct rebar - no more than 3 - 4 inches perhaps especially if they are no adding vertical mesh on that side as well? They will then appear to be going to place an 'L' section on the seaward side - on top of what foundation is far from clear - which will have a butt joint against the viaduct and will be well exposed to any water coming off a high tide or strong sea. Where will that water go - down into the joint (or will that have a flexible seal?) or somehow drain back on the seaward side? There is plenty of reinforced concrete around next to salt water which has spalled and allowed water to get at the rebar and I wonder what sort of thickness and/or type of concrete is able to resist that sort of water action for 120 years when it is barely a handful of inches thick? Just seems odd to me, particularly on the seaward side, to have such a thin cover over concrete over the rebar in an area where the main pressure on it is likely to be vertical. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Yes - that is part of what makes me wonder about the thickness of the concrete along the edge of the viaduct rebar - no more than 3 - 4 inches perhaps especially if they are no adding vertical mesh on that side as well? They will then appear to be going to place an 'L' section on the seaward side - on top of what foundation is far from clear - which will have a butt joint against the viaduct and will be well exposed to any water coming off a high tide or strong sea. Where will that water go - down into the joint (or will that have a flexible seal?) or somehow drain back on the seaward side? There is plenty of reinforced concrete around next to salt water which has spalled and allowed water to get at the rebar and I wonder what sort of thickness and/or type of concrete is able to resist that sort of water action for 120 years when it is barely a handful of inches thick? Just seems odd to me, particularly on the seaward side, to have such a thin cover over concrete over the rebar in an area where the main pressure on it is likely to be vertical. I understand your concerns. Looking at the 4 options of construction the choice was made, option 1c 120 year life, no period of guarantee. Quickest construction. Cheapest method for the project. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Raft 1. side walling. P1440709 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440640 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440642 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440644 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440654 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440662 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440672 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440715 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440717 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440718 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440719 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440720 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440742 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jcredfer Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) Walking up from the Megger roundabout,along the path overlooking the site,to the top of Shakey. Most of the viewing points,are turning useless for photos,the vegetation grow in height rapidly. It's another EU plot - to cover up the reduction of more funds that Cam didn't manage to negotiate - for the assistance for the rebuild of the Sea Wall. Once the vegitation is high enough, the remaining 2 platform areas will be filled with re-cycled cardboard boxes and covered with a 2" layer of re-cycled plastic supermarket bags and painted to look like Concrete. They will soon be sending Eurocops to the houses of all Railway Modellers, to seize any bottles of concrete paint. Warrants for entry will be based on Internet addresses obtained from the online shops, through US National Security Agancy - [freely given, as they were terrified of the EU going completely broke and offering to sell the EU to US - or, even worse, to Trump.] Enjoy the afternoon, considering the implications of a combination of Trump and the un-elected EU conglomerate .... J Edited June 14, 2016 by jcredfer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 It's another EU plot - to cover up the reduction of more funds that Cam didn't manage to negotiate - for the assistance for the rebuild of the Sea Wall. Once the vegitation is high enough, the remaining 2 platform areas will be filled with re-cycled cardboard boxes and covered with a 2" layer of re-cycled plastic supermarket bags and painted to look like Concrete. They will soon be sending Eurocops to the houses of all Railway Modellers, to seize any bottles of concrete paint. Warrants for entry will be based on Internet addresses obtained from the online shops, through US National Security Agancy - [freely given, as they were terrified of the EU going completely broke and offering to sell the EU to US - or, even worse, to Trump.] Enjoy the afternoon, considering the implications of a combination of Trump and the un-elected EU conglomerate .... J Ok J, you got bored of waiting for me to post the rest of this mornings photos, a good effort though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Today's spoil Train. P1440608 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440609 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440610 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440611 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440612 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440614 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440624 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440636 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440681 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440728 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 The two Rig's working the seawall on Raft 3 area. P1440619 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440617 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440616 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440635 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440657 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440692 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440705 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Work on the drainage duct,under the trackbed. P1440649 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440651 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440655 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440660 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440666 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440667 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440675 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440674 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440689 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440699 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Seawall. P1440699 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440700 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440708 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440721 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440722 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440724 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Pile heads,exposed on an area of Raft 2, are now all "clean". P1440653 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440664 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440665 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440703 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440738 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Last Post. The site today West to East. P1440690 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440691 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440692 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440693 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440694 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440695 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440697 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440696 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr Whoops ! Sorry, P1440618 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuartthegrant Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Yes - that is part of what makes me wonder about the thickness of the concrete along the edge of the viaduct rebar - no more than 3 - 4 inches perhaps especially if they are no adding vertical mesh on that side as well? They will then appear to be going to place an 'L' section on the seaward side - on top of what foundation is far from clear - which will have a butt joint against the viaduct and will be well exposed to any water coming off a high tide or strong sea. Where will that water go - down into the joint (or will that have a flexible seal?) or somehow drain back on the seaward side? There is plenty of reinforced concrete around next to salt water which has spalled and allowed water to get at the rebar and I wonder what sort of thickness and/or type of concrete is able to resist that sort of water action for 120 years when it is barely a handful of inches thick? Just seems odd to me, particularly on the seaward side, to have such a thin cover over concrete over the rebar in an area where the main pressure on it is likely to be vertical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 A few from thebipad 1330 1430. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 P1440814 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440815 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440817 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440821 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr Altogether, 1,2,3, Boo! P1440823 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 15, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2016 Is there anybody there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Is there anybody there? Nope ! Looks like they were talking to the wall. P1440824 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440822 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Thought I would start my day,after lunch,for a visit to the site,walked up from the Megger/Avo roundabout. P1440779 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440776 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440777 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440781 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440782 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440783 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 From the roundabout. Zoom, Look at the Seawall P1440785 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440787 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440788 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440789 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440790 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440795 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1440796 by David Todd 2012, on Flickr 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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