warren haywood Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 What paint do you use for the Indian red Warren, that looks just right! Cheers Simon It's a cellulose I've mixed with various colours to match SECR Indian red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dikitriki Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 That Castle looks absolutely stunning.I wonder if it will be run or spend it's life in a showcase. Lovely paintwork. It was run yesterday on Heyside. Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 It's a cellulose I've mixed with various colours to match SECR Indian red. I seem to remember you recommending GWR Indian red. 50% Ral 3009 +50% Ral 8016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren haywood Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 I seem to remember you recommending GWR Indian red. 50% Ral 3009 +50% Ral 8016[/size] Hi Adrian Moved on since then, as I'm trying to get continuity with Bracks and Ian Rathbone the Indian red is a little more purpley to what I had before but even then the colour was never disputed. It's pretty much the same two colours with some Crimson lake added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren haywood Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) This mornings work has been to spray the black areas except splasher tops which will be brush painted after lining and also the tender interior. Once the black had hardened off after a couple of hours I masked up and sprayed the holly green areas. This is basically 80% deep bronze green and 20% black. This afternoon I will tidy the brass beading Edited February 6, 2016 by warren haywood 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAD Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Hi Warren, I have just completed the painting of an 7mm LMS 4F, which I am pretty pleased with. However, when I see the quality of your work it makes me realise why those who can afford to make use of the services of guys like you and Mr. Rathbone etc. Exquisite! A couple of question. You mention brush painting some of the black areas. May I ask what brand of paint you use? In the past I used Humbrol black 85 which brushed on very smoothly and gave a very good result (by my standards). I suspect that the formulation has changed over the last few years to replace some environmentally unfriendly solvents with "greener" varieties. The net result being that the safer solvents reduce the flow out of the paint and it does not level as well as it used to. Also I thought deep bronze green was a good match to GWR green so why do you shade it with black? Many thanks. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren haywood Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) Peter I also use humbrol no 85, it just needs a stirring well but the areas that are brushed on are quite small. It may take a couple of coats though. Anything larger than a splasher top I would mask up and spray. The black is added to the green to create Holly Green which is the shade used from 1880's to 1906. After 1906 the shade changed to the lighter chrome green, bs224 matches this closely. Edited February 6, 2016 by warren haywood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren haywood Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 On with these at the moment, 7mm kits from sidelines superbly built by Graham Varley. All good fun especially the vermillion either side of the yellow....................not!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 They are very nice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAD Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Incredible, especially when you look at the enlarged images! Mind you, god knows how that quadruple decker got under the loading gauge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren haywood Posted February 16, 2016 Author Share Posted February 16, 2016 This evening I have made a start on the lining, pre 1906 GWR lining is only 1.5" wide so scaled for 7mm it is less than 1mm wide. Not the best photo and the lines look distorted and a bit messy, phone cameras for you :-( Tomorrow I will line the slashers and cabside. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAD Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Hi Warren fantastic. As an aside, may I ask what brand the ruling pen is? Looks like Deitzgen or maybe Keufel and Esser. The blades look quite long and I have noted the several people including some professional painters, have suggested that short blades are preferable as the longer ones can flex against the ruler and so vary the width of of line being drawn. I find that hard to believe as a lot top end ruling pens had long blades, and were used by professional draughtsmen etc who would also require a consistent line. Seems to me that if the blade is flexing against the rule then too much pressure is being applied. I collect drawing instruments and have pens by several of the top makers. The blades of all of them can be made to flex if enough pressure is applied, but in normal use they will all draw a consistent line irrespective of the blade length. Ink on paper I might add as I don't do much loco lining with the ruling pen. Be interested to hear you comments on that. Cheers, Peter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren haywood Posted February 16, 2016 Author Share Posted February 16, 2016 Hi Peter, The ruling pen is a Haff, it's just short and firm enough not to close up, but I've had it a good 10years now and am used to it. I do have a Kern with shorter blades which I use when the ruler or rest is up away from the loco. Horses for courses, but at approaching 7500 locos painted I'm slowly getting the hang of it :-) I have another haff pen with hardened tips which is a little sharp for my liking but still draws an extremely thin and consistent line. I have three sets of compasses, my favourite are by Reifler, I also have deitzgen and kern ones all for different applications. I notice your in Leeds, feel free to pop round for a demo any time, I'm in Wakefield. Cheers Warren 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAD Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Hi Warren, Interesting. I've never seen a Haff pen before where the thumb wheel and screw were one piece, and screwed into the lower blade. That's why I thought Deitzgen or K & E. Usually on Haff the screw is a T bar placed through the lower blade from below with the thumb wheel placed on from above. Or they have hinged swivel blades at the bottom like Riefler and Richter. You live and learn! Thanks for the offer of a demo. I might take you up on that some time. I was looking at your last post on the phone in the car while I was pulled over for a sarnie. Just arrived at the hotel and am now looking on the lap top after enlarging the last image. Bloody incredible what the likes of you, Mr Rathbone and Mr Goddard etc., can do with a ruling pen! Mind you, if you weren't a little bit good after 7500 locos then there would be something wrong. Cheers, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 link Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Stunning work as usual Warren, hopefully you will do me the honours on my 2251 class when I finally get round to building it : ) All the best, Martyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren haywood Posted February 16, 2016 Author Share Posted February 16, 2016 Hi Warren, Interesting. I've never seen a Haff pen before where the thumb wheel and screw were one piece, and screwed into the lower blade. That's why I thought Deitzgen or K & E. Usually on Haff the screw is a T bar placed through the lower blade from below with the thumb wheel placed on from above. Or they have hinged swivel blades at the bottom like Riefler and Richter. You live and learn! Thanks for the offer of a demo. I might take you up on that some time. I was looking at your last post on the phone in the car while I was pulled over for a sarnie. Just arrived at the hotel and am now looking on the lap top after enlarging the last image. Bloody incredible what the likes of you, Mr Rathbone and Mr Goddard etc., can do with a ruling pen! Mind you, if you weren't a little bit good after 7500 locos then there would be something wrong. Cheers, Peter Ha ha, just wiped them off, wasn't 100% happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren haywood Posted February 16, 2016 Author Share Posted February 16, 2016 Stunning work as usual Warren, hopefully you will do me the honours on my 2251 class when I finally get round to building it : ) All the best, Martyn. Get off the computer and get some modelling done;-) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 link Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 (edited) If I still had my fishery in France I would of done you a deal ; ) Martyn. Edited February 16, 2016 by 3 link 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 You can paint 92220 when its ready as well, might not be for a while though ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren haywood Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 You can paint 92220 when its ready as well, might not be for a while though ! No probs mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren haywood Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 Here's a DJH Brit I built and painted a couple of years ago, just taken a commission to do another although it may be some time before its finished! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano747 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Hi Warren What a beautiful model!! A Quick question. I presume you finish with a varnish; what do you use? Regards, Deano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren haywood Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 Hi Warren What a beautiful model!! A Quick question. I presume you finish with a varnish; what do you use? Regards, Deano Hi Deano, 99% of my jobs are done using cellulose so are lacquered using a gloss clear celly lacquer. This is sprayed at high pressure lightly to give a finish slightly glossier than satin. If I want a matter finish I can increase the amount of lacquer in the mix and increase the pressure. For glossier it's a matter of less pressure and less lacquer. If I need to use a polyeurathane varnish I go with Ronseal hardglaze in gloss with a little matting agent added. I don't like the satin or Matt versions as they are a little inconsistent and also have a gritty/sparkly texture. It is possible to use cellulose lacquer over an enamel painted loco but needs practice. Cheers Warren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 One question for Warren H. ........ What green do you use for BR? My reason for asking is I dumped 90% of my cellulose when I retired and so recently had to mix green in cellulose to match some very old PPC gloss when I wanted to repaint my W.Region locos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren haywood Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 One question for Warren H. ........ What green do you use for BR? My reason for asking is I dumped 90% of my cellulose when I retired and so recently had to mix green in cellulose to match some very old PPC gloss when I wanted to repaint my W.Region locos. It's just common old bs224 deep bronze green, just about the same as pp GWR green and fractionally yellower than their BR green. Easy to tint to match if needed although the colour has never been questioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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