RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted December 26, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 26, 2012 I wouldn't mind getting my hands on a couple of these to build so I too would be interested in seeing how this went Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted December 26, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 26, 2012 Basic drawing is done, just got to do most of the etch drawings. The Heljan and MSC ones won't match this very well. EM1RMweb.PDF Michael Edge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Basic drawing is done, just got to do most of the etch drawings. The Heljan and MSC ones won't match this very well. EM1RMweb.PDF Michael Edge Now that actually looks like an EM1 - broad grumpy face and big hump on the roof!! John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted December 27, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 27, 2012 Not all that difficult, NRM have GA and pipe and rod diagram easily available - and a tape measure on 26020. Just ignore every modelling drawing which has ever been published. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted December 27, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 27, 2012 that looks excellent. are these likely to be made available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 7mm as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45568 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Whose pantographs will you use???? Coat, door, gone! Peter C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I'm still waiting for the DE 165 Ruston to be offered in 7mm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim s-w Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Heljan, of course. They come highly recommended..... By Who? Stevie Wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted December 27, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 27, 2012 forget them - you need to negotiate with Judith! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Intrigued by this thread and the extensive exchanges about the Heljan EM1, I decided to make a start on one of these kits , bought a few months ago on Ebay. Initial impressions of the etches are good, with extensive rivet detail already provided, on what appear to be nickel silver etches. Comparison to Mr Edge's drawings however are not so great, the bodysides appear to be too deep and the cabs also, with the windows appearing oversize. The fit of cabs to body isn't too good either, as was remarked on above. The fitting of the roof panels also looks a bit doubtful, if done per the very skimpy instructions. Cutting the thin etches to size and making a seamless and invisible joint I think would be well beyond my capabilities, so I'm going to have to live with the scale imperfections. I think as well I shall have to make up the chassis in parallel with the body as accuracy of fit clearly cannot be taken for granted on any of the components. This is likely to be a slow effort as I have to be away a lot at the moment, but I'll add any salient observations on the build as time goes by. Happy new year to all!! John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
105mark Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Hi I have 2 kits of the 00 gauge model with the supplied motorised bogies & have reached the body completion stage. I do not know how to add the bogies to the body , that is how the bogies are connected to the body. Can any of you help me please? I must say that the motorised bogies look very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marhow105 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I am building the metal kit of the class 76 EM1. However whilst doing so I acquired an Olivia Trains complete model and was surprised to see that the models are not the same size. The kit is noticeably shorter than the Olivia Trains model. I will continue making the kit but members may want to reflect on the difference in length. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marhow105 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 As to fitting the motor to the model, if anyone wants information on this, let me know as I have a special guide from the vendor of the kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 59 minutes ago, marhow105 said: As to fitting the motor to the model, if anyone wants information on this, let me know as I have a special guide from the vendor of the kit I would be interested please, my own build stalled some while ago, although the bodywork is substantially complete after a lot of time spent. I'm working on the basis of using 16mm spoked Romford drivers, with 2mm axle, as in fact sold to me by the kit maker. Looking at the motor bogie etch when folded up, even a Mashima 1428 isn't long enough for the worms to fit properly on the shafts and then be in the right place over the axles. I don't think even a 1430 would be long enough either, perhaps not surprising given a bogie wheelbase of 11'6', which equates to 46mm on our models. I don't like the method of motor mounting either as it isn't firm enough to give a precise clearance between worm and cog gear on the axle. So I'd be very interested in your guidance, for which many thanks in advance. John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted February 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 21, 2021 This is how I powered the bogies for a resin moulded EM1 These are Mashima 14x26 motors and Romford 30:1 gears, there's room for a flywheel on each. I have two more to build with Mitsumi double ended motors, the bogie frames are etched in preparation for a complete EM1 kit. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Michael Edge said: This is how I powered the bogies for a resin moulded EM1 These are Mashima 14x26 motors and Romford 30:1 gears, there's room for a flywheel on each. I have two more to build with Mitsumi double ended motors, the bogie frames are etched in preparation for a complete EM1 kit. Thanks very much for this, your chasis parts are far more substantial than the ones in the MSL kit. Aside from the shape issues, the flimsiness of the material used throughout is a major drawback to the kits. I think my answer when I return to the thing will be to beef up the etches by sweating some extra sections on to give it a bit of body. John. Edited February 21, 2021 by John Tomlinson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted February 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 21, 2021 These are .015" brass, easily strong enough for this and the frames are bushed. I still can't figure out an easy way to compensate them though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagonmaster Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 I too have acquired an MSL kit of the original No.6000 later 26000 'Tommy'. Unfortunately, there weren't any instructions with it. I have read here that maybe the instructions aren't any use anyway, but if anyone has a copy (or for the production versions) they could scan for me, I would appreciate it. There are a few bits I'm scratching my head over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovenor Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 On 20/02/2021 at 16:27, marhow105 said: I am building the metal kit of the class 76 EM1. However whilst doing so I acquired an Olivia Trains complete model and was surprised to see that the models are not the same size. The kit is noticeably shorter than the Olivia Trains model. I will continue making the kit but members may want to reflect on the difference in length. Perhaps you could tell us how many mm it takes to be noticeable, and which one matches the drawings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Moore Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 Mike are you doing a kit of one in the future? My msl hobbies kit is still sat in the box it was 11 years ago. It won't go any further it was a god awful kit in the end. The Heljan model wasn't great neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted April 13, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 13, 2021 I will get round to Tommy at some time but I've got to get on with the ordinary EM1s first - and soon or the layout will be ready first. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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