Arthur Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Magnificent. I like the two island design, very Thunderbirds. . 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manna Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 G'Day Gents Well that's doubled the tonnage of the RN in one ship. manna Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Though the 2 island design looks odd it's growing on me. Much of contemporary naval architecture is a study of the grotesque. The USS Zumwalt come to mind though it's growing on me too. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Much of contemporary naval architecture is a study of the grotesque. The USS Zumwalt come to mind though it's growing on me too. I absolutely love the fact that the Zumwalt's captain is James Kirk. James A. Kirk to be precise, but close enough to James T. Kirk to warrant some comments online about "boldly going" etc etc... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2017 I do like the tug that sat across the stern to push it along, presumably using those special propellers that can thrust in any direction. Though the 2 island design looks odd it's growing on me. After all the British conceived most of the true advances in carrier design such as the angled deck and the steam catapult. Perhaps there will be similar ships built for other nations. Jamie Very original and I think the idea was mooted long ago in the RN but never proceeded with although CVA-01 was only planned to have a single island. Interestingly HMS QE comes with only deck edge lifts and appears to be the first major RN carrier not to have a centre line lift - no doubt makes more room on the hangar deck but does it have any disadvantages as the two lifts are quite close together which could make for awkward handling on the hangar deck? The really fascinating bit for me is the pennant number - RO8. This was last carried by HMS Bulwark (the one before the present one) and it means that HMS Prince of Wales will naturally be RO9 - the Audacious Class HMS Ark Royal's number and probably the best remembered one due to the tv series. I have long pondered over the choice of 'Prince of Wales' for the second ship and have wondered if the original names for these two were changed from what had become 'traditional' aircraft carrier names? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted June 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2017 Some more footage of her passing under the bridges late last night. Emphasizes the scale of the ship again. Tom 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted June 27, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 27, 2017 Where is she off to then? I know its sea trials but will she head for Portsmouth or back to Rosyth ? Presumably she will power herself and tugs will stand by just in case of need of assistance! Have to admit I didn't think I'd see the day the RN got a carrier. Now if we only had some aircraft 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted June 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2017 I believe she will be staying around this area until POW leaves the dry dock, then QNLZ will go back in for some paintwork to be sorted and then back out for further trials. It's not expected in Portsmouth until the end of the year. Tom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Accord Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 A lot of the ex RN men I know wanted at least one of these ships to be named EAGLE, which is something of a thoroughbred carrier name and incidentally sister to the Ark which appeared in the TV series (plus she was the much better ship of the two). ARK ROYAL is a well known name, but in reality carried by two ships in recent times which did very little operationally in contrast to their contemporaries. HERMES was another name much missed. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Accord Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Where is she off to then? I know its sea trials but will she head for Portsmouth or back to Rosyth ? Presumably she will power herself and tugs will stand by just in case of need of assistance! Have to admit I didn't think I'd see the day the RN got a carrier. Now if we only had some aircraft I believe 3 weeks of sea trials in the North Sea (basic machinery trials etc), then back to Rosyth for a 2 week drydocking and paintjob, then out again for a further 3 months of trials (machinery, combat systems etc). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 (edited) Now if we only had some aircraft And aircraft that don't suffocate their pilots. The Yuma squadron is airborne again. Edited June 27, 2017 by Ozexpatriate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted June 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2017 Not the only Jet affected by that problem! https://theaviationist.com/2017/03/29/all-u-s-fa-18-hornet-models-affected-by-oxygen-deprivation-and-cabin-decompression-issues/ Another great photo from twitter today: Tom. 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted June 27, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 27, 2017 Not the only Jet affected by that problem! https://theaviationist.com/2017/03/29/all-u-s-fa-18-hornet-models-affected-by-oxygen-deprivation-and-cabin-decompression-issues/ Another great photo from twitter today: DDWHnDzW0AEA44z.jpg-large.jpeg Tom. Nice to see it underway under it's own power without the tugs, it's being a proper ship now. It looks great to me. Jamie 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manna Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 G'Day Gents Re. Proper aircraft.....Bring back the 'Stringbag'. STOL. and no worries about Oxygen starvation...........! manna 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2017 G'Day Gents Re. Proper aircraft.....Bring back the 'Stringbag'. STOL. and no worries about Oxygen starvation...........! manna I used to work with a fellah who flew them off escort carriers back in the day - he absolutely loved them but said it did get a bit cold in the air when operating off convoys heading north. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted June 28, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2017 I used to work with a fellah who flew them off escort carriers back in the day - he absolutely loved them but said it did get a bit cold in the air when operating off convoys heading north.I remember reading somewhere that they flew so slowly that when they were attacking Bismark the anti aircraft guns kept missing them because the sights couldn't be calibrated down to the speed that the Stringbags flew at. Jamie 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyC Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 I do like the tug that sat across the stern to push it along, presumably using those special propellers that can thrust in any direction. ........Jamie A Voith Schneider Propeller http://www.voith.com/en/products-services/power-transmission/vsp-voith-schneider-propeller-10002.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 I do like the tug that sat across the stern to push it along, presumably using those special propellers that can thrust in any direction. Maybe, but the tug is more likely to be there to stop the stern drifting as it goes through the narrow channels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted June 28, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) HMS Iron Duke has joined HMS Sutherland in the Forth this morning, so two Type 23s now in the area. Someone sniffing around where they shouldn't be perhaps!! Tom. Edited June 28, 2017 by TomE 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brack Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 G'Day Gents Re. Proper aircraft.....Bring back the 'Stringbag'. STOL. and no worries about Oxygen starvation...........! manna Indeed, plus a walrus flying into a headwind can hover or fly backwards just as well as any rotary wing craft. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Storey Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Something I read today (on Huffington Post I think) reports that HM QE systems use Windows XP, and Fallon was defending its security. Is this true, or a fake report?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted June 28, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) Something I read today (on Huffington Post I think) reports that HM QE systems use Windows XP, and Fallon was defending its security. Is this true, or a fake report??Fake news. Some reporter saw a picture of a contractor's laptop running XP, put 2 & 2 together and got 5689. There are no systems operated by Windows XP onboard QNLZ. https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/new-aircraft-carriers-dont-run-windows-xp/ Tom. Edited June 28, 2017 by TomE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Storey Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Fake news. Some reporter saw a picture of a contractor's laptop running XP, put 2 & 2 together and got 5689. There are no systems operated by Windows XP onboard QNLZ. https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/new-aircraft-carriers-dont-run-windows-xp/ Tom. Many thanks. Very revealing that our current defence minister, Fallon, chose to assume that the reporter's underlying assumption was correct, rather than checking the facts, before answering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted June 28, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2017 Best photo I've seen of her so far I think, despite the Scottish weather! More on this Twitter feed: https://twitter.com/NavyLookout Tom 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brack Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 It was ordered and specced up over a decade ago, so I'd expect XP or similar might be a feature of some of its systems (the newest destroyers and subs we have run a hardened version of Windows from a similar era, I'd suspect that the carrier's systems are broadly compatible or similar) It will be fine so long as it is air gapped, but I'd suggest that it probably isn't a bog standard XP build. This whole furore is based over what someone allegedly saw on a screen whilst on a tour around the ship, then decided to tell the world. It might not have been XP after all (I used to have a cut down version of XP skinned to look like win 7 on one old netbook and I know of one it professional with a screensaver that looks like win 3.1), but I hardly expect the MOD to come and and tell us exactly what it runs for security reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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