Down_Under Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Hi All, Not sure if this should go under prototype or kit, but seeing as it's the kit I'm talking about now, kit it is. My question: Is the kit based on a MW? It looks so from the images that pop up on the web when googled. If so what type? Precursor to the H type? Or earlier? Or is it something else? Cheers, James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 It is, I believe, an early Hudswell, Clarke. Looks a bit like this one: http://kwvr.co.uk/steam-train/hudswell-clarke-co-0-4-0st-saddle-tank-lord-mayor/ Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darwinian Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Hi All, Not sure if this should go under prototype or kit, but seeing as it's the kit I'm talking about now, kit it is. My question: Is the kit based on a MW? It looks so from the images that pop up on the web when googled. If so what type? Precursor to the H type? Or earlier? Or is it something else? Cheers, James According to Russel the S-class comprised a single locomotive (Taff Vale No. 107 later 267) from Hudswell Clarke in 1867 to work the top of Pwllyrhebog incline along with another similar locomotive of TVR class T. Under the GWR the S class loco became 1342 . It went to Swindon in 1925 and never left. Hope that helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down_Under Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 Thanks for the reply guys, helps heaps! So, essentially could be/is a contractor locomotive then? I had noticed a few kits popping up that we'll known auction site and thought they could be the basis for kitbashing into a early MW. Interestingly built by Hudswell Clarke that did contract build a few MW locos in the late 1890's, which might be why it bears some resemblance. Thanks once again! J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Thanks for the reply guys, helps heaps! So, essentially could be/is a contractor locomotive then? I had noticed a few kits popping up that we'll known auction site and thought they could be the basis for kitbashing into a early MW. Interestingly built by Hudswell Clarke that did contract build a few MW locos in the late 1890's, which might be why it bears some resemblance. Thanks once again! J Basically, yes. Most 0-4-0ST contractor's locomotives looked more or less like that. Since a great many of them were built in the same corner of Leeds that is perhaps not all that surprising? Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down_Under Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 Thanks for that Adam. Haha - probably not at all! A useful little loco then, that could find a home post contracting use or still in contracting use just about anywhere then. Cheers, James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devo63 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I built a copy of this kit back in the 1980's and used it as a shunter in a brewery complex. It was sold off years ago but I do have another part built example which I may get around to finishing one day (along with umpteen other locomotive kits). Due to the very short wheelbase I had problems with power pickup through points and crossings which was eventually solved by adding a semi-permanently attached wagon with extra pickups through to the loco. Dave R. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rope runner Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 If you're after an old MW then Chivers used to do one. I managed to buy one from them last year with a chance email - could be worth enquiring? Paul A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down_Under Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 Thanks all for the info. I've dropped Chivers and email and crossed my fingers. Whee saw looks to be in the 5ft category? I've found a few threads on the old forum http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=14961&sid=e7e41b2f4281fe93b2d7a6b450820f9d Thanks again everyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down_Under Posted January 13, 2017 Author Share Posted January 13, 2017 Final question - is there a preference between Keyers and NuCast? Both the same quality? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 If it's Manning Wardles that you're interested in then have a look here. http://www.rtmodels.co.uk/rt_models_022.htm Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGW1247 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 An article with 7mm scale drawings and three photographs describing Taff Vale Rly No. 267 appeared in 'Model Railways' of May 1972. The loco was made by Hudswell Clarke in 1872. Hope this is of use, Regards from David. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Final question - is there a preference between Keyers and NuCast? Both the same quality? The bodies will be that same as Ks passed to Nucast. Nucast did introduce new etched chassis to some or all of the ex Ks kits but as none of them is available nowadays you have to take what you can get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down_Under Posted January 14, 2017 Author Share Posted January 14, 2017 Thanks DGW1247 - will start searching for that article and thanks Bruce, looks like the NuCast one is the one to keep my eyes peeled for. Paul - chance email to Chivers paid off so did the one to. Branch lines for the MJR castings. Thanks for the info everyone - bit more googling has zero'd in on a few more prototypes, including this near identical one made by Manning Wardle http://www.davidheyscollection.com/userimages/0001-g-burch-e-patrick-408.jpg And these ones made by Hunslet, Manning Wardle and Hudswell Clarke http://www.railwayarchive.org.uk/stories/pages.php?enum=LE118&pnum=7&maxp=10 Southport Steamport (great name btw - used to live there and got to drive a loco or two at weekends when I was a kid) - I've got some of the castings and may well pick up a model - little outside my era, but I do like the Manning Wardles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Ambis Engineering do an etch for the chassis of this loco. Unfortunately it doesn't, or didn't when I bought it, include the connecting or coupling rods, or the cylinders, which, presumably, would be sourced from the K's kit. Their website is being updated at the moment, so I can't access any more detail on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down_Under Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 Thanks for the info - Ambis chassis on order. Any hints and tips from anyone that has built one in the past? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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