DonnyRailMan Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Why is Hornby Mallard in LNER blue always modelled without corridor tender and the Hornby Mallard in British Railways green is modelled with corridor tender. I thought it should have been modelled with corridor tender always as it ran in the LNER days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Is it modelled as preserved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Because it never had a Corridor Tender until 1958. http://www.sirnigelgresley.org.uk/tenders/tenders1.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyRailMan Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 Titan Posted Today, 14:56 Is it modelled as preserved? micklner Posted Today, 14:57 Because it never had a Corridor Tender until 1958. .................................................. Cheer`s lads I thought Mallard was born with corridor tender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) Mallard was built as one of a number of 'general service' A4s not allocated to any long-distance non-stop runs (i.e not the Coronation, Flying Scotsman, Silver Jubilee). As such a corridor tender was not fitted. Mallard was only fitted with its first corridor tender, 5323, in 1948, when it took part in the 1948 locomotive exchanges. It also regained Garter Blue livery at this point, but with BRITISH RAILWAYS lettering and the number 22. It remained coupled to different types of corridor tender until withdrawal in 1963. Of note is that the final tender it was paired with up to its retirement (5651) was a Streamlined Corridor tender (with bowed ends and no beading); I believe all others it ran with were 1928 flat ended corridor tenders. Hornby DID model Mallard in tender drive form in Garter Blue with full valancing, LNER livery and a corridor tender. This was obviously incorrect, but I presume this was done in the time before they had tooling for the non-corridor tender. Either way, pre 1948 and post 1963, Mallard should have non-corridor tender! To digress, the SNGLT 'Tangle of Tenders' pages are very interesting (as is the similar paper on boilers!). Highlights include the fact that Bittern NEVER had a tender swap, and Dominion of Canada, having had a number of tender changes was withdrawn with the same 1928 tender it entered traffic with - indeed through its post 4489 life, the tender somehow retained the small valances below the body fitted to hold the Coronation silver flashing. not the best comparison, but you might get the points: See 60010 tender (brackets supporting tank are hidden) https://www.flickr.com/photos/30820076@N02/8112727253 vs 60009 tender (brackets supporting tank are exposed) https://www.flickr.com/photos/41696450@N03/7149020867/in/photolist-bTJAQt-ejGutc-q3vDV8-AEq133-hmheyP-oz5Bsf-oc82Zd-dSgVAC-qvUS2z-c7cvE5-nBX6eu-cBuPnw-ejawVV-6eyZzf-efyo1W-6bMV9A-dxQWov-fQP92X-5MHZDc-kqd2Xw-kqc1vA-bhzyW2-dTQE8L-bgxa8v-59dvbd-ezXYR7-efsChT-eaBj9o-ot7hZ5-c1MvRh-ctubVG-hJzyHT-6qmMNE-98oH5s-kpbYb1-f7RQan-aQ8fLi-fdAKiw-duQnwA-4Uvtkp-ap9RYa-ap9MJg-apcy2w-f2Sr9G-z1aEqu-vVobqd-vVmifw-vVkZqw-wcXrp6-wckGDy Edited February 12, 2017 by G-BOAF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Because it never had a Corridor Tender until 1958. http://www.sirnigelgresley.org.uk/tenders/tenders1.shtml According to that site it had one in 1948, which it gained for the locomotive exchanges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 According to that site it had one in 1948, which it gained for the locomotive exchanges. Typo !! While I am here that Tender had the rear corners cut down to allow SR Water cranes to reach the Filler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyRailMan Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 Mallard was built as one of a number of 'general service' A4s not allocated to any long-distance non-stop runs (i.e not the Coronation, Flying Scotsman, Silver Jubilee). As such a corridor tender was not fitted. Mallard was only fitted with its first corridor tender, 5323, in 1948, when it took part in the 1948 locomotive exchanges. It also regained Garter Blue livery at this point, but with BRITISH RAILWAYS lettering and the number 22. It remained coupled to different types of corridor tender until withdrawal in 1963. Of note is that the final tender it was paired with up to its retirement (5651) was a Streamlined Corridor tender (with bowed ends and no beading); I believe all others it ran with were 1928 flat ended corridor tenders. Hornby DID model Mallard in tender drive form in Garter Blue with full valancing, LNER livery and a corridor tender. This was obviously incorrect, but I presume this was done in the time before they had tooling for the non-corridor tender. Either way, pre 1948 and post 1963, Mallard should have non-corridor tender! To digress, the SNGLT 'Tangle of Tenders' pages are very interesting (as is the similar paper on boilers!). Highlights include the fact that Bittern NEVER had a tender swap, and Dominion of Canada, having had a number of tender changes was withdrawn with the same 1928 tender it entered traffic with - indeed through its post 4489 life, the tender somehow retained the small valances below the body fitted to hold the Coronation silver flashing. not the best comparison, but you might get the points: See 60010 tender (brackets supporting tank are hidden) https://www.flickr.com/photos/30820076@N02/8112727253 vs 60009 tender (brackets supporting tank are exposed) https://www.flickr.com/photos/41696450@N03/7149020867/in/photolist-bTJAQt-ejGutc-q3vDV8-AEq133-hmheyP-oz5Bsf-oc82Zd-dSgVAC-qvUS2z-c7cvE5-nBX6eu-cBuPnw-ejawVV-6eyZzf-efyo1W-6bMV9A-dxQWov-fQP92X-5MHZDc-kqd2Xw-kqc1vA-bhzyW2-dTQE8L-bgxa8v-59dvbd-ezXYR7-efsChT-eaBj9o-ot7hZ5-c1MvRh-ctubVG-hJzyHT-6qmMNE-98oH5s-kpbYb1-f7RQan-aQ8fLi-fdAKiw-duQnwA-4Uvtkp-ap9RYa-ap9MJg-apcy2w-f2Sr9G-z1aEqu-vVobqd-vVmifw-vVkZqw-wcXrp6-wckGDy ................................................................ Thanks for the background information . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodie-37 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Dear Sirs Mallard was first given a Corridor Tender1928 in 1948. Point of Order Tender Nº5323 – 1928 Corridor Type was issued to Mallard on 5/3/1948 https://sirnigelgresley.org.uk/chime-archive/tenders1.shtml Its all stated at the above referenced webpage Kind regards William Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 What type of tender is it coupled to now? Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 This one. http://www.ten.rhrp.org.uk/tens/TenderInfo.asp?Ref=183 The type, but not the same tender it had when it reached 126 MPH. The original tender was with 60026 and was later scrapped. http://www.ten.rhrp.org.uk/tens/TenderInfo.asp?Ref=399 Jason 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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