Popular Post KNP Posted August 14, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 14, 2019 Switching across from the main to the branch line leading to Little Muddle Cor, the signalman reset that branch one quickly!! 21 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 Clearing the main in a few moments.... 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted August 14, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 14, 2019 Just out of curiosity, would a traction engine be loaded from the side and in steam to get onto a Crocodile? It would be a heck of a jolt if it came from an end dock. Possibly enough to break the back of a Croc??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Bogie Posted August 14, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 14, 2019 Obviously the locals got sick of that piece of machinery and it is now being removed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted August 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Neal Ball said: Just out of curiosity, would a traction engine be loaded from the side and in steam to get onto a Crocodile? It would be a heck of a jolt if it came from an end dock. Possibly enough to break the back of a Croc??? I think Kevin really needs to invest in a machinery wagon, I don't think a trolley is the best wagon for the job. 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Neal Ball said: Just out of curiosity, would a traction engine be loaded from the side and in steam to get onto a Crocodile? It would be a heck of a jolt if it came from an end dock. Possibly enough to break the back of a Croc??? If I had to guess, then I would say it was loaded from an end dock with bulks of timber stepped down to get the heavy (rear end) on first, then removed when as far back as possible. The engine would then be driven forward to push up against a timber bulk whilst the rear wheel was wedged into place with another piece... Edited August 14, 2019 by KNP 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 Heading off around the branch curve. 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
didcot Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I seem to remember seeing a picture of a steam roller on such a wagon. But it must have had a rough shunt as it had gone forward and snapped the front forks off. They are a bit fragile on the front end! Matt 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 Now using your best David Attenborough voice or at least in your mind... Here, the deepest, darkest parts of rural England stirs a beast rarely seen. Hiding in the undergrowth and only coming out to feed when no one is around.... Quick, there, behind that tree over there one is stirring.. A Deanus Goodious, or more commonly known as Toofyvtreefore, approaches. Easy recognised as it has a tender behind! And yes I do take this hobby seriously...………...sometimes!!!! 14 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 Just the rest of the train? 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37Oban Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 hours ago, KNP said: If I had to guess, then I would say it was loaded from an end dock with bulks of timber stepped down to get the heavy (rear end) on first, then removed when as far back as possible. The engine would then be driven forward to push up against a timber bulk whilst the rear wheel was wedged into place with another piece... Hi, that method seems doubtful loading a trolley wagon. The ramps to the well are very short and steep so the jolt down would probably snap the front forks which, as didcot says, were fragile, and there doesn't look to be enough clearance for prevent damage to the machinery on the underside of the traction engine. Even with using wooden baulks to help loading there would still be significant jolts onto the deck, bearing in mind traction engines lacked springing. If it was loaded onto a trolley I would have thought it would have been craned into position and removed the same way. I don't what wagons the GWR had, but I assume they had implement and machinery wagons where loads could be driven onto them from an end-loading dock. Roja Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Teague Posted August 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 hours ago, KNP said: If I had to guess, then I would say it was loaded from an end dock with bulks of timber stepped down to get the heavy (rear end) on first, then removed when as far back as possible. The engine would then be driven forward to push up against a timber bulk whilst the rear wheel was wedged into place with another piece... Are you implying that nobody was around to take stage by stage pictures of this unusual event? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted August 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 14, 2019 26 minutes ago, KNP said: Now using your best David Attenborough voice or at least in your mind... Here, the deepest, darkest parts of rural England stirs a beast rarely seen. Hiding in the undergrowth and only coming out to feed when no one is around.... Quick, there, behind that tree over there one is stirring.. A Deanus Goodious, or more commonly known as Toofyvtreefore, approaches. Easy recognised as it has a tender behind! And yes I do take this hobby seriously...………...sometimes!!!! I was thinking David Bellamy... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
didcot Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Found this Steam Roller Wagon Also Steam Roller Wagon 2 Not sure it helps mind you. But lovely modelling, very impressive. Matt 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 13 minutes ago, didcot said: Found this Steam Roller Wagon Also Steam Roller Wagon 2 Not sure it helps mind you. But lovely modelling, very impressive. Matt Very useful, thanks 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 Head on view of 2534 starting to cross the viaduct 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted August 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 14, 2019 If you ever want to find out about anything that you make a model of, publish it on RMweb. Everything you ever wanted to know about your model will then appear in print and you can make a start on the second, completely accurate, version. 2 2 1 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold colin penfold Posted August 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 14, 2019 Nailed it! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darwinian Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 GWR wagons for carrying road vehicles were the Hydra, Loriot and Serpent varieties. I think of decreasing carrying capacity roughly in that order but I've not checked. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crichel Down Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 A discussion that included the question of what GWR vehicle could be used to carry a Fowler ploughing engine, and how it would be loaded, can be found in this thread on the Scalefour webforum: https://www.scalefour.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=6218 The discussion started on the subject of Carriage Loading Docks ( = End Loading Docks), and then ranged widely over the types of traffic using them, the vehicles carrying such traffic, loading methods, etc. Unfortunately, the discussion came to no firm conclusions, but might nevertheless be of interest to readers of this blog, in light of the appearance of the very attractive Oxford model of a Fowler ploughing engine on the Little Muddle branch. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted August 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 14, 2019 52 minutes ago, Darwinian said: GWR wagons for carrying road vehicles were the Hydra, Loriot and Serpent varieties. There's a very nice brass kit from Connoisseur for the Hydra. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 14 minutes ago, Crichel Down said: A discussion that included the question of what GWR vehicle could be used to carry a Fowler ploughing engine, and how it would be loaded, can be found in this thread on the Scalefour webforum: https://www.scalefour.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=6218 The discussion started on the subject of Carriage Loading Docks ( = End Loading Docks), and then ranged widely over the types of traffic using them, the vehicles carrying such traffic, loading methods, etc. Unfortunately, the discussion came to no firm conclusions, but might nevertheless be of interest to readers of this blog, in light of the appearance of the very attractive Oxford model of a Fowler ploughing engine on the Little Muddle branch. Many thanks. Very useful link, especially the picture of a Fowler engine being unloaded side wards off a wagon at Carn Brea Station The picture was taken in 1950 ish (assumed) but what worked then would most certainly work for Little Muddle in the mid 30's. That would make a very unusual diorama!!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 Back to pictures, now I have that information kindly supplied by Crichel Down I will press on add those additional chains between the wheels (as suggested by Harlequin) 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 17 hours ago, Worsdell forever said: I was thinking David Bellamy... Or maybe Alan Wicker ..... showing my age now 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KNP Posted August 15, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 15, 2019 After all the load debate of the Fowler decided to finish the piece of wasteland by the cottages. So back to something that I find needs no research by me.....scenery Starting with the static grass covered infill section Small clumps of Noch autumn fall randomly added, at this point I had some idea where the shrubs and trees where going so placed the clumps accordingly Shrubs added, painted horsehair with blended turf sprinkled on with hair spray as glue. Conifer at the end is small foliage clumps glued on top of one another to form a pyramid shape Odd areas sprayed with hairspray and blended turf sprinkled on to make weeds, small ground cover plants A pair of salvaged Seamoss trees upgraded with more bended turf to make 'clumpier' Side view of wasteland area before trees added Tress added, a few yellow plants included to give colour Fitted in place Though I painted the sides of the module black in can be seen from certain angles so I will probably paint in green when I next remove to finish the cottages. 19 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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