RMweb Premium John Besley Posted May 29, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 hour ago, KNP said: At last, 4820 reverses in a forward direction into the creamery siding...... Superb picture .... Just an everyday scene on a branch line 1 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishplate Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 12 hours ago, John Besley said: Superb picture .... Just an everyday scene on a branch line Exactly. 👍 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KNP Posted May 30, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2022 (edited) Lets have a change of scenery. Spied over at LM station yesterday an excursion train had pulled into the platform. Edited May 30, 2022 by KNP 31 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponthir28 Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 (edited) Excursion train now is coming or going to somewhere? Edited May 30, 2022 by Ponthir28 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted May 30, 2022 Author Share Posted May 30, 2022 Did it reverse in? move forward? or set back......??? Answers on a postcard to........ 1 1 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted May 30, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 30, 2022 (edited) Setting back is often used to describe a short unsignalled shunt move, behind the signal, against the normal direction of traffic which the Signalman authorised verbally. If there’s a Signal authorising it it’s just a normal shunt although some also use it to describe a signalled move where the front may foul an overlap or similar or it needs to move behind the signal for starting once coupled up because there wasn’t quite enough room. You often see people on models just bump the stock backwards without stopping but in reality you’d bend things and probably propel the stationary stock off uncontrolled 😉 1 hour ago, KNP said: Did it reverse in? possibly 1 hour ago, KNP said: move forward? possibly 1 hour ago, KNP said: or set back......??? possibly if it was just a short ‘adjustment’ 🤣 1 hour ago, KNP said: Answers on a postcard to........ The Signalman’s stove 😎 🌋 Edited May 30, 2022 by PaulRhB 3 2 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted May 30, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 30, 2022 On 28/05/2022 at 12:51, Metropolitan H said: Only if you are using the 3-rail DC current collection system. If you are using 2-rail "Forward" and "Reverse" refer to the direction of travel along the track (which ever way the loco faces). One of the reasons I like "Deliberately Old-Fashioned trains"! Regards Chris H Chris seeing as with DCC just turning a loco round on the track will not change it direction of travel you have the same thing with modern trains and DCC. Of course really old fashioned trains using 20v AC etc reversing was a bit more complicated. Don 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Metropolitan H Posted May 30, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 30, 2022 5 hours ago, Donw said: Chris seeing as with DCC just turning a loco round on the track will not change it direction of travel you have the same thing with modern trains and DCC. Of course really old fashioned trains using 20v AC etc reversing was a bit more complicated. Don Don, Thats interesting. So far DCC is beyond my experience - i'm still very much a "Deliberately old fashioned type". Regarding the 20V AC trains, recent experience of a pre 1939 Maerklin "0" gauge Pacific was enlightening - when you operated the cab control, it responded exactly as a modern 3-rail DC loco would. Otherwise, I find the application of a reasonably rated bridge rectifier to the field (or armature) circuit will ensure the loco responds as desired. However, I do regret the lack of the fourth rail to give true verisimiltude to some of my favourite prototypes. 🙂 Regards Chris H 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted May 30, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 30, 2022 20 minutes ago, Metropolitan H said: Don, Thats interesting. So far DCC is beyond my experience - i'm still very much a "Deliberately old fashioned type". Regarding the 20V AC trains, recent experience of a pre 1939 Maerklin "0" gauge Pacific was enlightening - when you operated the cab control, it responded exactly as a modern 3-rail DC loco would. Otherwise, I find the application of a reasonably rated bridge rectifier to the field (or armature) circuit will ensure the loco responds as desired. However, I do regret the lack of the fourth rail to give true verisimiltude to some of my favourite prototypes. 🙂 Regards Chris H If I understand you right the bridge rectifier in the feed to either the field winding or the armature will work when the motor is fed DC. Some of the old 20vac controllers went from off to max volts then down to min as you turned the knob. The sudden full volts activated the auto reverse I think . FiL did explain it somewhat as they had some in a shed when he was a boy. You could I suppose add a dummy fourth rail for the look of it. Don 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KNP Posted May 31, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2022 All tucked up safely under the creamery canopy. Even the gate has been shut to stop them bolting..... 45 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponthir28 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 All quiet for now. But only one person knows what’s going to happen in the next few days. 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted May 31, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 31, 2022 He might not be too sure either. keep an open mind, chuck all the thoughts out, basic Zen really Don 1 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Zen and the art of model railway photography? 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishplate Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 On 30/05/2022 at 08:22, KNP said: Did it reverse in? move forward? or set back......??? Answers on a postcard to........ Question 2: Can a train be going forward with the loco in reverse ??? asking for a friend . . . 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishplate Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Maybe . . . http://www.gwr.org.uk/gwr-reversing-arrangements.html 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted May 31, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2022 50 minutes ago, Fishplate said: Question 2: Can a train be going forward with the loco in reverse ??? asking for a friend . . . Yes if it's running bunker or tender first 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Anyone remember the scene in The great Saint Trinian's train robbery where the porter keeps phoning the signal box to find out what is going on? That would be me. 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold GWR57xx Posted May 31, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 31, 2022 15 hours ago, KNP said: All tucked up safely under the creamery canopy. Even the gate has been shut to stop them bolting..... Nice to see some activity on the rail side of the dairy - a rarely photographed location and activity apparently. 🙂 1 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted May 31, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 31, 2022 If you consider a train which tuns from say Totnes to Ashburton with the loco chimney first you would say it was going forward. If it gets to Ashburton and the loco then runs round. It now becomes a train from Ashburton to Totnes with the engine bunker first. It would be most odd to term it reversing the forward direction is appropriate when it is heading towards its destination. Note that with an autocoach or push pull service there is provision for the driver to go to the forward end of the train either the coach or engine so the driver would always be at the forward end. Don 2 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KNP Posted June 1, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 1, 2022 A view from the signal box window catches 4820 heading up the branch line where it will stop clear of the point and then run back to the other side of Encombe Town station to the goods yard where it will deposit the Toad.... 33 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponthir28 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 It’s all go this morning. 1 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Ponthir28 said: It’s all go this morning. He needs the move finished before the weekend. 😊 1 3 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KNP Posted June 2, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2022 All quiet in the yard. Phantom and Menace ready for the off. Just checking the load before shutting the rear flap. Delivery driver double checking destination in yard office. Then they will be gone. Now........ After all the comments about 4820 going in reverse, or forward, setting back, reversing in a forward direction what terminology do we use for a horse and cart? Back up, reverse, turn left, full gallop, right hand down a bit........I had enough trouble with the loco. You know what...! To play safe... I might just leave them 'frozen in time'.... Sorted. 36 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponthir28 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 My only experience with horses is they go where they want to go. 3 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardvark Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ponthir28 said: My only experience with horses is they go where they want to go. ... and when, and that includes race horses. 2 1 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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