Peter Kazmierczak Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 http://media.btp.police.uk Scroll down to the bottom item. The attack took place at 2pm on a Tuesday afternoon in May. Shows how vulnerable we are out photographing. Best wishes to the totally innocent victim and very well done to the BTP for getting a result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Unfortunately many good spotting locations are either remote or in "deprived" areas, a person standing alone with expensive camera equipment is always going to be an attractive target for these scumbags. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted August 3, 2017 Author Share Posted August 3, 2017 Referring to a general page and then 'the last item on the list' isn't very helpful as said list will be appended continuously and the intended item will disappear down to further pages. Here's the direct link: http://media.btp.police.uk/r/14457/man_jailed_for_attack_on_railway_enthusiast_that_ HTH! Thanks. I did try to post the link but it wouldn't attach...... Sorry if you found me unhelpful....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted August 3, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 3, 2017 Quote. “With only some grainy CCTV footage to go on," Is that good enough in this day and age? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted August 3, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 3, 2017 There was further evidence. It's not unusual for a suspect to be found by information that is not subsequently used in court because other eviidence is available and was used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 The grainy footage was used to identify and track him down. When found, he had the victims blood on his trousers and shoes, and his fingerprints were found on the camera when it was subsequently recovered. It's a fair cop guv'. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Williams Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 I do wish they wouldn't run sentences concurrently. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 I do wish they wouldn't run sentences concurrently. As long as you don't mind more instances of this type of thing.... Out of sight, out of mind? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted August 3, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 3, 2017 Many years ago the louts would not have dared pick on the spotters as the spotters would have killed them. It is sad when people get picked on like this, but 7 years will make the moron think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Williams Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 As long as you don't mind more instances of this type of thing.... Out of sight, out of mind? More pertinently, off the streets and being punished for each crime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted August 3, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 3, 2017 Many years ago the louts would not have dared pick on the spotters as the spotters would have killed them. It is sad when people get picked on like this, but 7 years will make the moron think. Unless he's an extremely naughty idiot he'll be out in three years, possibly less if he was held for sometime on remand before trial. In reality for a crime such as that the 7 year sentence is nothing more than an occupational hazard while the concurrent 32 months is effectively no sentence at all. (Yes, I'd have given him at least 10 years but with no reduction for good behaviour and extra time for bad behaviour - it might not reform him but at least he'll be out of circulation for longer.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted August 3, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 3, 2017 As long as you don't mind more instances of this type of thing.... Out of sight, out of mind? I don't follow the connection Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I don't follow the connection Once they're inside, "it's someone else's problem". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted August 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 4, 2017 Horse the comment was about consecutive v concurrent sentencing, not about prison conditions. In any event I would rather that some low life who mugged an elderly photographer spent time locked up rather than being a problem out on the streets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) If I ruled the world, or at least the UK: 1. No concurrent sentences, all to be served consecutively. 2. All sentences to be served in full, with time added on for bad behaviour. 3. New prisons to be built to house the extra prisoners. Due to the Pareto principle - I would expect 80% of crime to be committed by 20% of criminals or thereabouts. If this 20% are all locked up and unable to commit more crime then there would be a substantial reduction in crime. This in conjunction with the building of new prisons would allow the shutting down of older less suitably designed prisons once the prison population is past it's peak. In the long term therefore this should reduce costs as well as crime. Edited August 4, 2017 by Titan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRat Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Many years ago the louts would not have dared pick on the spotters as the spotters would have killed them. It is sad when people get picked on like this, but 7 years will make the moron think. In my experience, I doubt it. He will do less than half of that, even less if he has been on remand. I wonder what his list of previous convictions reads like? Yes I assume he has them, it's the cynic in me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted August 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 4, 2017 If you can have concurrent prison sentences, why can't I save all my motoring fines and points up and pay them once every now and again. Same principal? Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted August 4, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 4, 2017 And then there is taken into consideration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Reorte Posted August 4, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 4, 2017 Have concurrent sentences but in different prisons - then apply penalties for absconding, since the offender clearly isn't in all the prisons he's supposed to be in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted August 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 4, 2017 I noticed when i was out in Aus some years ago that according to reports in the media the courts in NSW were awarding sentences to run consecutively - struck me as an excellent idea. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 If you can have concurrent prison sentences, why can't I save all my motoring fines and points up and pay them once every now and again. Same principle? It does work like that if you are prepared to be a scofflaw. You just get right back in a vehicle however banned you may be and keep driving, refuse to pay fines, and it is years before a minor custodial sentence is imposed. Seen it happen with several individuals. The law only applies in reality to those prepared to conform, and choke up the fines if they happen to be given such a penalty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I think the respective lengths shows how badly out of balance society is, but that's only my opinion & as an ordinary member of the public have no influence "seven years in prison for robbery and 32 months’ imprisonment for GBH" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Isn't Robbery basically "Theft with Violence"? In which case the sentence for Robbery already includes the violent aspect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gary H Posted August 4, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 4, 2017 A particularly nasty piece of excrement that one wasn't he! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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