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Looking for a British Army lorry suitable for 1960s, no one seems to make the Bedford RL  would a Fordson Thames be

ok  Classix  do an ex army.

Hi Paul,

 

A starting point for you...

 

http://miliblog.co.uk/?cat=468

 

Then it's a case of searching via Google and finding which museums have vehicles for the period.

 

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The AEC Matador lasted into the 60’s, available as an Airfix kit. Not sure if any Bedford QLs saw service into the 60’s, they may well have done with the TA, also available from Airfix.

 

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http://www.roadtransportimages.com/online-shop/item/510-bedford-rl-mkii-1956-69-military-cab

 

BW Models use to do a big range of cold war British Army trucks including some of the specialist bodies.

 

When I was posted to Marchwood, I was working in the back of my RL machinery wagon when the door opened and one of the civie railway fitters came in with a plastic carrier bag in his hands. " I understand you have a valve grinder in here" as he stood next to it. "Couldn't do us a favor and clean these up". I was expecting another set of Cortina valves. He pulled out a set of valves from one of the diesel locos. They were huge.

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Dad's regiment still had K9 radio trucks into the early 1980s. He hated them. He also reckoned that the Humber 3/4 ton was around well into the 60s at least. Apparently they were dreadful too. Not trucks, but he didn't like Austin Champs much either, largely due to their tendency to invert rather easily, resulting in messy clean up and inconvenient paperwork.

 

He did love the RLs though, reckoning them to be superior to both their QL predecessor and MK successor. One of his many anecdotes was of an RL which got bogged and put a leg out of bed during attempted self recovery. A second RL attempting to recover the dead one also got bogged even more firmly. The first RL was then manually dug out and was used, rodded block and all, to haul its failed rescuer clear on five pots and several gallons of oil :D.

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  Have you made one of these works out expensive all the separate parts,   were the Bedford QL still around in the 60s.

 

Some QL's would have been around in the 60s (and even into the 70s) although for the most part they would probably more likely have been the QLR variant with the 'house' body for signals, command, office and radio roles.  Matador Models do a suitable resin body (to fit on the Airfix kit), ref KCB-44, although looking at the price it would put the completed model at around the same price as an RTI Bedford RL!

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The first machy wagon I came across was a QL in 1975, it was at SEME and was being used to familiar us gun fitters with a machy wagon. All the units I served with had RLs. The teles techs and radar techs had 60s built Commers of some sort with box bodies.

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Have you made one of these works out expensive all the separate parts, were the Bedford QL still around in the 60s.

It can be an expensive exercise but they are excellent kits. An alternative would be to marry the RL cab to an Airfix MK chassis and body.

 

Depending on which end of the 60s you're modelling, you could use the Airfix MK, the first entered service with the army in 1967, about two years before the final RLs were built.

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In answer to original question yes the army did use the Fordson Thames ET6 as a 3 ton cargo truck so the Pocketbond Classix  army version would do ( though not totally accurate as uses civilian drop side body ),

In the early 50s the army bought a number of fairly standard Thames ET6 , Bedford OL and Austin Loadstar trucks as 3 tonners with  twin rear wheels and typical army fixed side tilt bodies. They will have lasted well into the sixties. They must have worn out the 72,000 Bedford OY  4x2 3 tonners  made during the war !

 

See army ET6 here ( worse for wear on disposal  !)-

http://miliblog.co.uk/wp-content/plugins/creative-ideaz-gallery/creativeshow.php?pid=8463

 

Discussion here-

http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_843448-Thames-ET6-1951.html

 

 

As an aside the RAF also had Thames ET6 's converted to 6x4 for the longer 'house' type bodies . To replace the wartime WOT6 models.

http://miliblog.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/fordson-et6-thames-sussex-3ton-6x4-signals-70-av-20.jpg

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I've just remembered, the William Hulme Grammar School CCF, combined cadet force, had a military Bedford OL.

Standard 4+2 chassis, military non-dropside tilt body, petrol engine.

This was circa 1968 to1970 .

I can't remember which teacher drove it, I just know I wanted to!!!! I had to wait 30 years before I got the chance!

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War gaming suppliers are very good for model military vehicles. I bought a couple of very nice AEC Matador mobile cranes from Gramodels who do a range of very nice resin kits for WWII military vehicles in 2 mm, 3 mm, 4 mm and 7 mm scales.  

 

The AEC Matadors and Bedford OYs would still have been around in the period you are modelling. They come with every conceivable body work from flat beds to dropsides to tankers, recovery vehicles, wireless vans etc, etc.

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The AEC Matadors were only used by the army as artillery tractors however the RAF used them in many roles.

 

On many layouts of yore I have seen Matadors dressed up as coal man's  lorries  a most unlikely use for a heavy weight 4x4  , just getting into the cab is a major effort ! 

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My friend's family have had this Matador since 1946, I'm aiming to model it one day. Think it was retired from active duty in the 1980s. It was rebuilt by Douglas twice, including shortening the chassis. Much easier to turn than a standard Matador!

 

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War gaming suppliers are very good for model military vehicles. I bought a couple of very nice AEC Matador mobile cranes from Gramodels who do a range of very nice resin kits for WWII military vehicles in 2 mm, 3 mm, 4 mm and 7 mm scales.  

 

The AEC Matadors and Bedford OYs would still have been around in the period you are modelling. They come with every conceivable body work from flat beds to dropsides to tankers, recovery vehicles, wireless vans etc, etc.

There wasn't that much wartime kit left in service by the mid 60s. Most was pretty well knackered by 1945 and the large part of the stuff that was semi OK was sold off before 1950.

 

It was the specialist gear that remained in service. Like Swampy, who I served with in Belize in 1978-9.

 

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