sc2016 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Hi, I was wondering if anybody could help me my question is: Can you have a rake of autoballasters with generators or know of a occasion when it has happened? Thanks, Samuel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazynitwit Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Hi, I was wondering if anybody could help me my question is: Can you have a rake of autoballasters with generators or know of a occasion when it has happened? Thanks, Samuel. I had a quick look and it doesn't seem like they do run with a full train of generators. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dungrange Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 My understanding is that the generator on an autoballaster can power five wagons (ie the wagon that it is mounted on and four others). That therefore means that in general, autoballasters will operate in rakes containing one generator wagon for every four non-generator wagons. A rake of five wagons will therefore have just a single generator, while a rake of ten wagons will have two. In general, they tend to run in multiples of five for this very reason. Apart from delivery of a rake when new, I can't see any reason for operating a rake of generator wagons. A rake would have as few generator wagons as possible in service. Did you by any chance purchase one of Hattons' bulk packs of generator JJAs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 The HQA autos run as fixed 5 sets, coupled within the set by buckeye. The generator is always an end vehicle and located at the outer end of the wagon. JJAs, which Bachmann have modelled, have screw couplings on each vehicle. Again, one generator per 5 set as mentioned up thread. These can be located anywhere in the 5 set, but do seem to have tended to end up at one end since they gained the yellow stripe bodywork at overhaul. Occasionally these may run shorter, perhaps a 4 set, if required for a particular job. Should a generator fail, they can be cross fed from the adjacent set, a maximum of 10 wagons. Taunton Fairwater has been home to a pair of genny fitted wagons, they work with the MOBC and came up to Westbury for refilling. It may be worth searching for 6C72 or 6C73 on Flickr to see if there's any pictures of this working. It's the only time I know of multiple generator wagons running with no non generator wagons. Jo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted October 28, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 28, 2017 I've got a train of 25 of them tomorrow night! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Not seen a rake that big for a while. 20 seems the most we've had lately, and that only just fits the yard! Takes ages to get the air up on autos too Jo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted October 28, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 28, 2017 Not seen a rake that big for a while. 20 seems the most we've had lately, and that only just fits the yard! Takes ages to get the air up on autos too Jo yeah 20 is the most ive worked in the past, 25 should be an experience, luckily ive go the empties off site! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 I've got a train of 25 of them tomorrow night! 25 generator wagons because that is what this thread is about! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted October 28, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 28, 2017 25 generator wagons because that is what this thread is about! not quite but i can at least have a nose at the 5 rakes and see if any have more than one genny wagon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 not quite but i can at least have a nose at the 5 rakes and see if any have more than one genny wagon How many variants will there be in the 5 sets in builder, livery and how many of the cut down ones! Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 It is possible to remove the generators and do some modelling to make them look like different wagons. I bought a couple of them on offer from Kernow to turn into tiphook kpa's, generator and covers need removing, new cover fasioned from plasticard and a couple of other bits. Sorry, I didn't take any pictures of the destruction process. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted October 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 30, 2017 I didn't have the rake of 25 last night in the end but watched t trundle by while I was in my train, there were no rakes with more than one genny in them unfortunaly, same again at Basford hall, another 3 sets and all 'normal' configuration of one genny fitted wagon on the end of the rake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc2016 Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) Did you by any chance purchase one of Hattons' bulk packs of generator JJAs? No i didn't get a bulk pack of generator JJAs from Hattons. The reason i asked the question is because I brought a Railtrack autoballaster with generator a few years back and wanted to create a autoballaster set and noticed at there are unbranded generators versions reduced in price. Samuel. Edited November 22, 2017 by sc2016 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazynitwit Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) No i didn't get a bulk pack of generator JJAs from Hattons. The reason i asked the question is because I brought a Railtrack autoballaster with generator a few years back and wanted to create a autoballaster set and noticed at there are unbranded generators versions reduced in price. Samuel. It just depends what era your modelling as the unbranded ones are ex railtrac now network rail. Edited November 23, 2017 by crazynitwit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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