Chris Higgs Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 I am on the lookout for any information - photos, drawings etc - of the roof fittings of LMS Restaurant cars, especially the kitchen flues, hatches and fans fitted to 68' RF and RT stock. So far the best I have found are sketches in the Jenkinson Historic Carriage Drawings book and the Comet instruction sheets. Chris Higgs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nig H Posted December 30, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 30, 2017 I am on the lookout for any information - photos, drawings etc - of the roof fittings of LMS Restaurant cars, especially the kitchen flues, hatches and fans fitted to 68' RF and RT stock. So far the best I have found are sketches in the Jenkinson Historic Carriage Drawings book and the Comet instruction sheets. Chris Higgs Hi Chris, When you get something can you share it with me please? I'm especially interested in the LNWR- style RC and subsequent conversion. For my RKs, I used the information sheets produced by Colin Albright for his Ultima range. I don't know where Colin got the info from mind. Can you disclose what you need this info for? Regards, Nig H Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Anything in the LMS Coaching Stock part of the forum? As I'm sure this has been covered before. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/forum/144-lms-coaching-stock/ Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Higgs Posted December 30, 2017 Author Share Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) Hi Chris, When you get something can you share it with me please? I'm especially interested in the LNWR- style RC and subsequent conversion. For my RKs, I used the information sheets produced by Colin Albright for his Ultima range. I don't know where Colin got the info from mind. Can you disclose what you need this info for? Regards, Nig H Hi Nigel, I am doing some 3D-printed roofs for my etched kits of the RT and RFO which I did many years ago. A few people are interested. The layout is as per the Jenkinson book which also matches the Comet webpages. But neither tell me how much the various flues and hatches should protrude and whether they have any surface detail like catches and the like. My initial thought is that I have made them a bit anemic and that they should protrude more. EDIT: looks like you might be able to shed some light as I see you did a 50' Kitchen car model which has the same lozenge shaped flues on it. I don't have that particular Ultima kit and I don't think there are any LMS restaurant car fittings in my gloat box. Chris Edited December 30, 2017 by Chris Higgs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nig H Posted December 31, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 31, 2017 Hi Nigel, I am doing some 3D-printed roofs for my etched kits of the RT and RFO which I did many years ago. A few people are interested. LMS D1923 RT roof.png The layout is as per the Jenkinson book which also matches the Comet webpages. But neither tell me how much the various flues and hatches should protrude and whether they have any surface detail like catches and the like. My initial thought is that I have made them a bit anemic and that they should protrude more. EDIT: looks like you might be able to shed some light as I see you did a 50' Kitchen car model which has the same lozenge shaped flues on it. I don't have that particular Ultima kit and I don't think there are any LMS restaurant car fittings in my gloat box. Chris Hello Chris, I'll dig out the Ultima information and send you a copy. I used Ultima etched or cast parts for most of the detail, some bits from scrap plasticard per the Ultima guidance. Nig H Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted January 8, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 8, 2018 Chris which diagrams are you doing? The later Pd III 12 wheelers had pipework on the roof. The comet parts look OK but I think I have some drawings of the parts somewhere in my pile of books and papers. The PdII 68' cars also have flues, fans and pipes... some Comet bits fitted on this one... albeit by an unknown builder - lots of items and pipes to be added but I added the Comet bits to this one... lots of pipes etc to be fitted on both... Baz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Higgs Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 Chris which diagrams are you doing? The later Pd III 12 wheelers had pipework on the roof. The comet parts look OK but I think I have some drawings of the parts somewhere in my pile of books and papers. The PdII 68' cars also have flues, fans and pipes... some Comet bits fitted on this one... other side of LMS Pd II Compo diner D1811.JPG albeit by an unknown builder - lots of items and pipes to be added but I added the Comet bits to this one... other side of LMS d1810 First class diner.JPG lots of pipes etc to be fitted on both... Baz I am doing D1923. Us 2mm madmen put the piping on separately, hence it not being on the 3D artwork. Nigel Hunt sent me some handy instructions showing the form of the flues and hatches, but I would be interested to hear what diameter Comet use on theroof fans. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted January 10, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2018 Chris I have some comet fans and will measure them up Baz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted January 11, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11, 2018 Chris comet fans are 8 mm across the external rain guard ie 2ft diameter The small oblong cowls are 7 mm long by 4.5 mm wide The large oblong cowls are 7mm long by 8.4 mm wide Hope that helps Baz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nig H Posted January 18, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 18, 2018 Here are a few shots of the roof of my RT. The wire for the piping is loose along the roof and gets knocked now and the when stored. I remember it was hard for me to get it looking OK. Nig H Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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