159220 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 I see on Hornby's site, R3659 specification has changed. Formerly 67023 'Stella' now is 67027 'Charlotte'. See: https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/shop/locomotives/diesel-electric-locomotives/colas-rail-freight-class-67-bo-bo-67027-era-11.html Description 67027 Charlotte was built at Alstom's Valencia works in August 2000, entering traffic with EWS, under lease from Angel Trains. Between September 2002 and March 2014, the locomotive carried the name Rising Star, but in October 2016, along with 67023, 67027 was offered for sale by DB Schenker Rail UK (now DB Cargo UK). Colas Rail purchased the pair in early 2017 for the haulage of high speed test trains for their Network Rail contract, repainting them in Colas orange, yellow and black livery in April 2017. Anyone know why? Perhaps the name was changed due to a certain beer? Or maybe Charlotte is an exclusive to Hornby direct? I shall send an email come Monday! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig1989 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Hoping it’s 027 Charlotte as I already have Stella Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoey Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Odd how it’s changed. Unless there was an error within and there will be both models released. It’d be nice little touch if Hornby add brake discs as Dapol have done in their 68’s, think this subtle mod has made a big difference in appearance to the models. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCClark Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Also hoping it is Charlotte as already have Stella! John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted February 1, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 1, 2018 I would have thought ‘stella’ would have been the better one to produce as it has shorter nameplates so renumbering and renaming to charlotte simply meant sticking the longer plates over the top of the (I assume) printed ones? As a slight aside the real things are off together on a freight job Saturday night so the model isn’t just limited to pulling yellow coaches any more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted February 1, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 1, 2018 Anyhoo I’ve spoken to the bloke who deals with things like this at work and it’s nothing sinister, just a change for a reason that doesnt need to be discussed deeply here, no conspiracy theories, no ‘special editions’ etc, just one of those commercial things that change from time to time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrington Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 It was the same with the Colas Class 60. Instead of doing an unnamed loco, Hornby picked the Colas Class 60 loco with the longest nameplate as far as I know. It's almost like they want to dissuade you from buying extra models to renumber. Same story again with the DB Schenker 60. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesTor Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 It was the same with the Colas Class 60. Instead of doing an unnamed loco, Hornby picked the Colas Class 60 loco with the longest nameplate as far as I know. It's almost like they want to dissuade you from buying extra models to renumber. Same story again with the DB Schenker 60. ...and the same this year with the Loadhaul 60 'John Loudon McAdam'... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 This month's Rail Express Modeller has confirmed that Colas has requested Hornby to change their Colas Class 67 release from 67023 'Stella' to 67027 'Charlotte' instead thus it will be this one that is released later in the year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Presumably given the ribbed body side position of the namplate, an etch will be provided without the need to print them on the side, as Bachmann have just done with 66779. This means all that is needed for renumbering is, well, a renumber! I guess wait and see how Hornby produce it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) Presumably given the ribbed body side position of the namplate, an etch will be provided without the need to print them on the side, as Bachmann have just done with 66779. This means all that is needed for renumbering is, well, a renumber! I guess wait and see how Hornby produce it. Have Hornby previously printed names on their 67's such as the named DB/EWS variants which are ones that come to mind? Edited February 14, 2018 by classy52 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Have Hornby previously printed names on their 67's such as the named DB/EWS variants which are ones that come to mind? Good call. Yes they have. Bang goes my theory. TBH the best nameplate solution I have seen is that Dapol Western 'dotted line' giving an indication of poisition and height of plate, without interfering with the final etched item. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) Good call. Yes they have. Bang goes my theory. TBH the best nameplate solution I have seen is that Dapol Western 'dotted line' giving an indication of poisition and height of plate, without interfering with the final etched item. Now the plot thickens, did some googling on past Hornby 67's and noticed that on DB 67013 'Keith Heller' the nameplate is printed on the cab side and not on the ribbed body side and this is the same for the EWS 67025 'Western Star'. So with the prototype Colas 67027 'Charlotte' the name isn't on the cab side as you already know thus Hornby may just refrain from going thru the hassle of printing this name on the ribbed body side and supplying the etched nameplates to fit which now leaves everyone the opportunity to buy 2 and you only need to renumber the other to 67023 on the cab sides/front and purchasing the Stella etched nameplate from Shawplan. Actually does anyone own the Hornby R3388TTS Class 67 67004 "Cairn Gorm", this will confirm if the name is printed on the ribbed body side or not thus may dictate whether Hornby do the same on the Colas 67. Edited February 14, 2018 by classy52 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Now the plot thickens, did some googling on past Hornby 67's and noticed that on DB 67013 'Keith Heller' the nameplate is printed on the cab side and not on the ribbed body side and this is the same for the EWS 67025 'Western Star'. So with the prototype Colas 67027 'Charlotte' the name isn't on the cab side as you already know thus Hornby may just refrain from going thru the hassle of printing this name on the ribbed body side and supplying the etched nameplates to fit which now leaves everyone the opportunity to buy 2 and you only need to renumber the other to 67023 on the cab sides/front and purchasing the Stella etched nameplate from Shawplan. Actually does anyone own the Hornby R3388TTS Class 67 67004 "Cairn Gorm", this will confirm if the name is printed on the ribbed body side or not thus may dictate whether Hornby do the same on the Colas 67. Looking at the pics of 67004 and also the Chiltern 67s, Hornby have unfortunately printed on the ribbed body side... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Looking at the pics of 67004 and also the Chiltern 67s, Hornby have unfortunately printed on the ribbed body side... Cairn Gorm is indeed printed onto the side of 67004. Hornby has also provided a printed lump of plastic to stick over it (ugh). The name was used on 60073 and an etched nameplate is available from Shawplan. Unfortunately, I think I’m right in saying that 67004’s nameplates are new and use a different font, so that 60073’s plates would not look right. It’s a problem waiting for a solution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chamby Posted February 15, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2018 I see on Hornby's site, R3659 specification has changed. Formerly 67023 'Stella' now is 67027 'Charlotte'. See: https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/shop/locomotives/diesel-electric-locomotives/colas-rail-freight-class-67-bo-bo-67027-era-11.html Anyone know why? Perhaps the name was changed due to a certain beer? Or maybe Charlotte is an exclusive to Hornby direct? I shall send an email come Monday! Stella is a beer. Charlotte is a pretty little princess who is fourth in line to the Throne. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Phil Mc Posted February 16, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 16, 2018 I seem to remember reading somewhere that only one of the two ladies these are named after actually works for Colas. I can't remember which one ! Maybe Colas just wanted the model to be of the one who works for them ?? Cheers, Phil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroborus Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Notification from Rails that my Charlotte is in the post 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 It's 8:50am and just got it delivered Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris37422 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Got mine from Barry and Gill at Widnes Model Centre today (as with the rest of my Colaa locos) Very nice model, now just missing a Colas 47! Recommended. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Got mine from Barry and Gill at Widnes Model Centre today (as with the rest of my Colaa locos) Very nice model, now just missing a Colas 47! Recommended. Perhaps these people can help...http://satmodelrail.co.uk/product/Bachmann-32-816nf-oo-gauge-class-47-727-limited-edition/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted November 30, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 30, 2018 Got mine from Barry and Gill at Widnes Model Centre today (as with the rest of my Colaa locos) Very nice model, now just missing a Colas 47! Recommended. Lovely photo and collection of Colas locos. How much was the Colas 67 from Widnes Model Centre? Thank you in advance. Perhaps these people can help...http://satmodelrail.co.uk/product/Bachmann-32-816nf-oo-gauge-class-47-727-limited-edition/ Thank you for the link. I wasn't aware of this shop selling the Colas 47. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Thank you for the link. I wasn't aware of this shop selling the Colas 47. No worries, there's a few still selling it but this shop is the cheapest thus a really good price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave56 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Got mine this morning very pleased with it. I am just missing a class 66 in Colas. I think I will wait for Hattons new one due next spring. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CazRail Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Mine delivered today, but as its a Christmas present from the missus, it was quickly swept away out of sight for another 22 days and counting... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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