ianmacc Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 On shapeways there is a store selling mk2 Ford Escorts and mk4 Cortinas etc in1:76. Anybody bought and assembled any of these and able to post their efforts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 On shapeways there is a store selling mk2 Ford Escorts and mk4 Cortinas etc in1:76. Anybody bought and assembled any of these and able to post their efforts? Tell us more of where to find this holy grail! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmacc Posted June 13, 2018 Author Share Posted June 13, 2018 https://www.shapeways.com/shops/digitawn?section=Cars+1-76&sort= Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmacc Posted June 13, 2018 Author Share Posted June 13, 2018 There are also mk3 and 4 escorts. All vehicles come in all body variants from cabrio to van! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) Not bad, though you'll have hours of fun opening the windows out. The Mk.III Cortina lower bodyside isn't quite right, though the same feature on the Mk.IV is correct. Edited June 13, 2018 by BernardTPM 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted June 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) A bit variable. Some are very good - but so they should be at that price. I don't think they will be selling many. And the first Mini is a "Countryman" not a "Clubman". My parents had one for many years. Edit: Checking the Oxford site, an amazing range planned including some of the Escorts and Cortinas. Also many other vehicles suitable for "blue era" BR. Edited June 13, 2018 by Joseph_Pestell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeharvey22 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Edit: Checking the Oxford site, an amazing range planned including some of the Escorts and Cortinas. Also many other vehicles suitable for "blue era" BR. The updated Oxford Diecast printed catalogue is now available to view and download at:- https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1017/3257/files/JUNE-SEPT_18.pdf?9600825157106359079 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Looks an interesting range, albeit a tad pricey. The £11 ones would be about as much as I'd want to spend but reflecting on the cost of Bernard's or the the Beacon range when they were both generally available about 20 years ago, they would have been in the £5-6 range then and although top end models, were regarded as still being reasonable value for money if you were looking for something accurate, so maybe this price is't so different. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmacc Posted June 13, 2018 Author Share Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) I don’t think the prices are bad to be fair. Just wanted to see if anyone had attempted one. I would probably order in the transparent-ish material and just mask off the windows. Edited June 14, 2018 by ianmacc 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 The 3D Printed Mk2 has the wrong front bumpers and the grille appears to be too deep. I work for an Escort Mk1/2 Specialist, and am hoping to be able to use the 3D scan we've just had done of one of our shells for 3D Printing. It will require a lot of work though as it is a bare shell, but all the parts are available to measure ex stock so I have plenty to go on!. See https://www.facebook.com/MotorsportToolsUK/posts/10155240921925653 for a quick look at what I'm up against. There is talk of maybe scanning a full car in the future (not sure why that wasn't done in the first place to be honest, not like we don't have one on site, in the way!) 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 The semi-transparent scan is interesting - you can still easily see the Mk.1 hiding under its new suit... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmacc Posted June 14, 2018 Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 I don’t doubt there are going to be little discrepancies with the models. As someone who owned and got familiar with the mechanics of a two door and four door mk2 escort in recent years I know as well as anyone their distinctive features. I think we give what are basically just enthusiasts’ cottage industries a hard time. Can you tell easily what the model is? Definitely no mistaking they are escorts and cortinas etc. I may plump for a couple and give them a ham-fisted go myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 I agree they've done pretty well; creating convincing shapes is much harder than it might seem, though I'd have preferred a hollow shell even if interior parts weren't there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmacc Posted June 14, 2018 Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 Given the lack of tech how did you used to get such accuracy with your cars back in the day? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 (edited) First I'd do a drawing, initially pencil, but inked with a fine Rotring pen when happy with it. Basic dimensions weren't too hard to find from magazines, but I would often hunt for the real thing on the streets too. Lots of photographs, of course, Autocar Road Tests and the old Sunday Times Olyslager books all proved useful. Once I had a drawing I'd have it reduced to 4mm scale on a photocopier, printing off several copies once the scaling was right. The basic sides, bonnet, boot and roof would then be cut out and mounted on styrene sheet using double sides tape to get the basic shapes. For the sides I tended to lightly glue the two 'blanks' for both sides together and cut the two at once so wheelarches, etc. lined up. After that a lot of filing, bending, scraping, filling, trial assembly of the basic shapes with Blue Tak and or tape, then properly glue them together. At that point the full overall shape could be fettled. Basically a lot of comparing with photos from different angles, filling and filing. When I was happy with the shape then detail it and make the subsidiary parts (normally grille, bumpers, floor, dash, seats, wheels). Edited June 14, 2018 by BernardTPM 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmacc Posted June 16, 2018 Author Share Posted June 16, 2018 First I'd do a drawing, initially pencil, but inked with a fine Rotring pen when happy with it. Basic dimensions weren't too hard to find from magazines, but I would often hunt for the real thing on the streets too. Lots of photographs, of course, Autocar Road Tests and the old Sunday Times Olyslager books all proved useful. Once I had a drawing I'd have it reduced to 4mm scale on a photocopier, printing off several copies once the scaling was right. The basic sides, bonnet, boot and roof would then be cut out and mounted on styrene sheet using double sides tape to get the basic shapes. For the sides I tended to lightly glue the two 'blanks' for both sides together and cut the two at once so wheelarches, etc. lined up. After that a lot of filing, bending, scraping, filling, trial assembly of the basic shapes with Blue Tak and or tape, then properly glue them together. At that point the full overall shape could be fettled. Basically a lot of comparing with photos from different angles, filling and filing. When I was happy with the shape then detail it and make the subsidiary parts (normally grille, bumpers, floor, dash, seats, wheels). Amazing. Pity I wasn’t around to pick up these kits when they were available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 (edited) I don't have the Viva estate myself as a boxful of the remaining kits along with HB Viva 2-door, HA van and Escort resin bodies were lost when I moved. Thankfully I do still have the masters. Just very occasionally I've seen Carkit-4 kits turn up on ebay. Edited June 16, 2018 by BernardTPM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwich station Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 The semi-transparent scan is interesting - you can still easily see the Mk.1 hiding under its new suit... Which one is that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwich station Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Which one is that? I found it but it doesn't look like a mark 1 is hiding underneath it, looks all mk2 to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Given that Ford apparently built Mk.1 shells onto Mk.2 floorpans suggests there wasn't much change under the skin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm81 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I think the same seller has mk1 transits too, if only they'd done the mk2... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwich station Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Given that Ford apparently built Mk.1 shells onto Mk.2 floorpans suggests there wasn't much change under the skin. But that's the same for a lot of cars. I'm not 100% sure but I believe the Cortina mk3 and 4 had the same chassis/running gear and I've heard it mentioned that the first Sierra's did also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmacc Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 I think the same seller has mk1 transits too, if only they'd done the mk2... Maybe worth asking them as they have the basic dimensions to start from the mk1? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderforge Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Mk1 Transits? D’you reckon they do 12inch to the foot scale parts? I could sore do with a new roof on my camper!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 (edited) But that's the same for a lot of cars. I'm not 100% sure but I believe the Cortina mk3 and 4 had the same chassis/running gear and I've heard it mentioned that the first Sierra's did also. That it why the 'ghost' view shows the earlier underpinnings normally hidden by the squarer Mk.II body (though the estate and van kind of gave the game away). In the same way the 'Mk.IV' was really an update of the German version of the Cortina/Taunus which had a less flamboyant version of the 'Coke bottle' styling to begin with; there was a coupé version of the 1970 Taunus but not the Cortina, but if you compare the 2-door Taunus to the 2-door Cortina, the Cortina is pretty close to a coupé shape anyway and if you wanted a proper Ford coupe you'd buy a Capri. You can also see that the slight step/ridge partway down the door was carried over from the Taunus. On the Mk.III Cortina the 'vertical' part of the door panel met the tuck-under without a step, hence that element was deeper, changing the visual proportions of the door. I'm not sure about the Sierra. Even if there were some common panels they would have needed quite a few changes for the independent rear suspension and there's also the matter that it was a hatchback too. One nice part that carried over from the Mk.II to Mk.III Cortina was the 'Cortina' badge itself, a gloriously proportioned piece of cast and chromed lettering. They really nailed that one. Edited June 17, 2018 by BernardTPM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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