RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted February 8, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, chuffinghell said: I was going to anchor the hook to the platform but I didn’t have enough chain left unfortunately I could still put an anchor point on the end of the platform although the position of my crane is different to that of the crane in the photo A wagon could potentially fowl the chain? but then it's all just theoretical at the moment Edited February 8, 2021 by chuffinghell 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted February 8, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) My solution, Chris. Really must sort out the wiggly hawser. Rob. Edited February 8, 2021 by NHY 581 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted February 8, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2021 2 hours ago, NHY 581 said: My solution, Chris. Really must sort out the wiggly hawser. Rob. Is that a cross pollinated Cambrian crane and Wills crane?...it’s very, very good! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted February 8, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, chuffinghell said: Is that a cross pollinated Cambrian crane and Wills crane?...it’s very, very good! Well spotted, Chris. I had a damaged Cambrian crane and a Wills kit. I liked the look of the Cambrian gear gubbins and adapted the Wills jib etc to fit. I can see me replacing the wire hawser with some fine chain. I never seem to get the wire to hang straight. The base is the brick base from the Bachmann ground frame I cut down for Mutton. The handrail is made up of track pins and brass wire. But thank you for your kind words. Rob. Edited February 8, 2021 by NHY 581 Sausage hooves 5 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted February 8, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, NHY 581 said: .........thank you for your kind words. Rob. Credit where it's due, it's very clever! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Must admit that I had quite a time trying to decipher what bits were from where because the end result is so convincing. Excellent job! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 The anchor point is only there to prevent the crane from being knocked or blown round and fouling the running lines. You could have something more sophisticated like the Cambrian cranes have with a turntable lock bolt operated by lever or pedal perhaps and save work / chain etc? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted February 8, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 minute ago, MrWolf said: The anchor point is only there to prevent the crane from being knocked or blown round and fouling the running lines. You could have something more sophisticated like the Cambrian cranes have with a turntable lock bolt operated by lever or pedal perhaps and save work / chain etc? In that case there is a brake system within the mechanism that is unseen and hence not modelled 1 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted February 8, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, MrWolf said: The anchor point is only there to prevent the crane from being knocked or blown round and fouling the running lines. You could have something more sophisticated like the Cambrian cranes have with a turntable lock bolt operated by lever or pedal perhaps and save work / chain etc? I'll have a rummage through my odds 'n' end box this evening because I'm sure I've got a lever from a Hattons Andrew Barclay (that I've removed along with other bits after the loco failed to bounce when it hit the floor) In fact I salvaged all of the bits that I thought might come in handy so I could used either the lever or the hand wheel You've got me thinking now.......very dangerous is that! Edited February 8, 2021 by chuffinghell 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted February 8, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2021 Well I’ve dug out some interesting bits out of my odds ‘n’ ends box perhaps one of these could make a feasible crane turntable brake? 6 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 If I had to pick one, because I started you off on this tangent... I would go for the signal lever, cut it down 40-50% and fit it to the side of the turntable opposite the crank and towards the rear as on the rail mounted crane. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted February 9, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2021 20 hours ago, MrWolf said: If I had to pick one, because I started you off on this tangent... I would go for the signal lever, cut it down 40-50% and fit it to the side of the turntable opposite the crank and towards the rear as on the rail mounted crane. The crank side is the side that is viewed (mostly) so ideally I want to add something that can be seen, so that might work.......although adding details no one can see is something I inadvertently to do quite often 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 At least you know that you're not alone in that one. The weighbridge office on my layout faces away from the viewer, had to model the door wide open so that about 1/3 of what is inside of it can be seen. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted February 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) It's an interesting dilemma. My layouts are built to exhibit. Of the three, two are fiddle yard to terminus. The exception is Mutton which is a through station, therefore fiddly yards at each end. Now, to the point. What I have discovered is that I am more comfortable with the fiddle yard on the left.....as I am right handed. Getting there........ As a result, trains enter and leave on the left. Add to this the fact that most buildings have a particular aspect which is more interesting.......... Still getting there.. So taking Outwool as an example, Big hut will have to be sited in a particular way to enjoy the view of the interesting side, same with small hut and the cottage which will form the view blocker. I am therefore still trying to finalise locations and the orientation of the buildings. Its not easy you know. Rob. Edited February 9, 2021 by NHY 581 Excessive use of the word therefore...... 5 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold simonmcp Posted February 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, NHY 581 said: It's an interesting dilemma. My layouts are built to exhibit. Of the three, two are fiddle yard to terminus. The exception is Mutton which is a through station, therefore fiddly yards at each end. Now, to the point. What I have discovered is that I am more comfortable with the fiddle yard on the left.....as I am right handed. Getting there........ As a result, trains enter and leave on the left. Add to this the fact that most buildings have a particular aspect which is more interesting.......... Still getting there.. So taking Outwool as an example, Big hut will have to be sited in a particular way to enjoy the view of the interesting side, same with small hut and the cottage which will form the view blocker. I am therefore still trying to finalise locations and therefore the orientation of the buildings. Its not easy you know. Rob. Don't you wish you could press mirror on a real solid building just like in 3d printing, I know I do sometimes. Mind, I accidentally did that while printing off some buckeye couplings for a friend, so that was a definite reprint. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted February 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2021 3 hours ago, NHY 581 said: Now, to the point. Getting there........ Still getting there.. I am therefore still trying Just skimmimng through the post to get the gist of it. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted February 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Mick Bonwick said: Just skimmimng through the post to get the gist of it. Brevity is not my forte today.......... 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted February 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 minute ago, NHY 581 said: Brevity is not my forte today.......... At least your spelling is accurate. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted February 10, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2021 Heyup Chris, first time I've been on here for a while, you've made a cracking job of the crane (as you do everything else), I do like how you are starting to add some scratch-building skills - the stays on the crane and so on - It's all looking good. Cheers, Al. 3 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post chuffinghell Posted February 10, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Alister_G said: Heyup Chris, first time I've been on here for a while, you've made a cracking job of the crane (as you do everything else), I do like how you are starting to add some scratch-building skills - the stays on the crane and so on - It's all looking good. Cheers, Al. Thanks Al I've just finished up my goods shed crane, very little scratch building on this as its mostly 3D printed from my drawing/design but I’ve still had to paint it and add the chain, cable, boom supports out of 0.3mm brass rod and the shafts etc so it was still a challenge It looks a bit grubby because I’d got a little black paint on the fingers I was holding it with 15 6 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 "Grubby" looks about right, especially for steam era. White paint won't stay white around smoke in enclosed places. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted February 10, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, AlfaZagato said: "Grubby" looks about right, especially for steam era. White paint won't stay white around smoke in enclosed places. That is very true but since my last post I’ve cleaned it up with a wetted paint brush because it turned out it wasn’t paint but black off the chain from using a brass blackening solution so I thought I’d better clean it off I will weather it but only very slightly and I’ll use a little white powder on the black parts to highlight the details that at the moment aren’t really visible (poor lighting plus poor photography ) Edited February 10, 2021 by chuffinghell 9 7 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 I have to say that the end result has been worth all the discussion, head scratching, hunting around for pictures and tweaking the design. All I need now is a layout with a proper goods shed! 1 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schooner Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 3 hours ago, chuffinghell said: It looks a bit... ...a bit bloody good! Top stuff Chuffers What were the dimensions again...? ...no reason... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted February 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 11, 2021 Very nice work there Chris. It's just about the best goods shed crane I've ever seen in model form. What you need to do now is model the goods shed being re roofed so you can see it in all its glory. Regards Lez. 1 1 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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