Leeds London Road . Yard magnets and control panel

[LNER4479]

Another working visit yesterday; always a pleasure.

 

Not terribly exciting but nevertheless records that the last piece of baseboard construction for the terminal station is now complete, leaving this tempting length of trackbed to be covered by platforms and lots of complex pointwork.

 

With that complete, efforts are now concentrated on the station approach pointwork, to be laid out on an approx 5ft radius curve. Here, the first pointwork has been fishplated and positioned but not yet fitted for keeps. Tiny changes of angles here can make a huge difference further round the curve, so important to take time to get it right.

 

View the other way shows the station headshunt, top right, so that all shunting stays clear of the mainline.

 

Edited November 9, 2022 by LNER4479

[LNER4479]

It occurred to me, in relation to the start of fresh tracklaying, that the previous posting of the trackplan has now been lost following the server crash. Hence enclosed below,  so as you can see how the main station is intended to look. Added since is the diesel stabling / fuelling point which will be on the outside of the approach curve - the eagle-eyed might notice the additional point in the headshunt which will now lead into this area.

 

 

Edited November 9, 2022 by LNER4479

[Peter Kazmierczak]

Just found this thread; looks a really interesting project. Especially like the colliery bit.

 

A couple of thoughts on the track plan:

1. Don't forget a trap point at the exit from the carriage sdgs, and another from the middle run-round road in the station.

2. Wondering why the station headshunt goes off in a straight line by the wall on the right of the plan. Wouldn't it usually curve round to run alongside the running lines?

[St Enodoc]

13 minutes ago, LNER4479 said:

It occurred to me, in relation to the start of fresh tracklaying, that the previous posting of the trackplan has now been lost following the server crash. Hence enclosed below,  so as you can see how the main station is intended to look. Added since is the diesel stabling / fuelling point which will be on the outside of the approach curve - the eagle-eyed might notice the additional point in the headshunt which will now lead into this area.

 

 

Only just noticed this - obviously just a (non) slip of your pen but, going clockwise from the removable section, where do the main lines cease to rise? Presumably at the station junction? What are the actual gradients involved?

 

Thanks.

[John76]

Will you be 'bending' the points to fit the 5ft radius? 

[LNER4479]

2 hours ago, Peter Kazmierczak said:

Just found this thread; looks a really interesting project. Especially like the colliery bit.

 

A couple of thoughts on the track plan:

1. Don't forget a trap point at the exit from the carriage sdgs, and another from the middle run-round road in the station.

2. Wondering why the station headshunt goes off in a straight line by the wall on the right of the plan. Wouldn't it usually curve round to run alongside the running lines?

Thanks Peter,

 

Various details are different compared to the plan (inevitably). Ideally, I'd have liked the headshunt to continue round the curve as an additional running line on the outside and connect directly with the carriage sidings, with a crossover connection at that end. But that would reduce the radius of the main up/down lines that bit further - it's challenging enough as it is to try and maintain a nice sweeping curve into the station.

 

So - yes - some sort of trap arrangement will be necessary; better news down the other end however. Once 'on site', I realised there was an extra 15" to play with down that side and the headshunt has indeed been installed alongside the running lines and terminates shorter round the curve than the plan might otherwise imply. See photo below.

 

[LNER4479]

2 hours ago, St Enodoc said:

Only just noticed this - obviously just a (non) slip of your pen but, going clockwise from the removable section, where do the main lines cease to rise? Presumably at the station junction? What are the actual gradients involved?

 

Thanks.

The gradient actually continues John in the clockwise direction until the bottom right corner. This is to give Barry as much headroom - well, arm-room more like - in his fiddle yard as possible. I think it tops out at 114mm height difference. Gradients fairly gentle on the mainlines though, no worse than 1-in-100, if memory serves. The steep gradient is the climb out of the fiddle yard, which might be something like 1-in-40 once on the straight. Logic being that they do that only once and can be assisted if worse comes to the worst; it's more important that they can lap without too much difficulty on the mainline.

 

1 hour ago, John76 said:

Will you be 'bending' the points to fit the 5ft radius? 

Already in hand - that single slip pictured has already had the 'treatment'.

[Barry O]

The layout as is has a handy property. Yesterday "Leeward Islands" normally used on the "Lakes" on Shap was brought in for a service. New pick ups fitted and the mainline used to sort out a mysterious short. Once completed the loco has gone back with Red Leader for use on Shap at Manchester Show.

 

Lots of thanks for all of the hard work from Red Leader. 

 

The colliery will be home to my very extensive kit built Industrial fleet.

 

Baz

[St Enodoc]

5 hours ago, Barry O said:

The colliery will be home to my very extensive kit built Industrial fleet.

It won't be big enough for that!

[Barry O]

Industrials.. yep these are the finished ones..

 

I have a number started/ unstarted Kits as well.. Hunslet 15", Hunslet 16", Hunslet 67T diesel, plus others..

Baz

[Barry O]

Progress on the layout is ongoing. Cork has been laid and painted on the Station/Diesel Service Centre/ Goods Yard/ Carriage sidings. Bit stuck now until track laying is completed.

 

Baz

[LNER4479]

56 minutes ago, Barry O said:

Bit stuck now until track laying is completed.

 

No pressure, then?

[5BarVT]

1 hour ago, Barry O said:

Industrials.. yep these are the finished ones.

A nice selection, and a nice selection of names.

Paul.

[Barry O]

14 minutes ago, 5BarVT said:

A nice selection, and a nice selection of names.

Paul.

The red Ruston is named "Asenath".. its a long story!

Baz

[St Enodoc]

Nice to see old friends numbers 1 to 5 again.

[Barry O]

Since returning from a 3 month tour of Singapore   Australia  and New Zealand, some progress has been made on the layout (as well as some stock fettling!). A bit of scenic work no less.. but it all needs completing.

 

 

Coaling tower is being weathered...

 

 

And the wall along the hinged section is on situ and has had a bit ofcweathering done.. a lot more to do!

 

Wiring has been on going and a final connection or two for the "black" section should see trains being able to arrive and depart from the goods marshalling yard. Hopefully that will bevdone this week.

 

A date has been agreed for another visit from @LNER4479 to lay the station track and complete the diesel yard... then I need to build the control panels and wire them up!

 

Baz

[farren]

That’s looking suitably grubby there, with an array of indistinguishable black locomotives. I do like the neglected atmosphere of steam in BR days. 

[roundhouse]

Lovelely and dirty. It's not good to be a clean modeller😎.

 

I haven't built a control panel since 2005.

[Clive Mortimore]

1 hour ago, Barry O said:

Since returning from a 3 month tour of Singapore   Australia  and New Zealand, some progress has been made on the layout (as well as some stock fettling!). A bit of scenic work no less.. but it all needs completing.

 

 

Coaling tower is being weathered...

 

 

And the wall along the hinged section is on situ and has had a bit ofcweathering done.. a lot more to do!

 

Wiring has been on going and a final connection or two for the "black" section should see trains being able to arrive and depart from the goods marshalling yard. Hopefully that will bevdone this week.

 

A date has been agreed for another visit from @LNER4479 to lay the station track and complete the diesel yard... then I need to build the control panels and wire them up!

 

Baz

Hi Baz

 

Is that there blue thingy a control for the wagon lift?

[5BarVT]

25 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said:

Hi Baz

 

Is that there blue thingy a control for the wagon lift?

Perhaps the number display is for how many tons are in the hopper.

Paul.

[Barry O]

Nope it's the turntable control unit (Heljan)...

 

I could add dcc as well for it.. but the layout is dc..

 

Baz

Edited May 3, 2023 by Barry O

[Barry O]

Just for @farren..

 

 

I moved the locos around though.. but lots of ex LMS types

 

 

And..

 

Time to play shed copping....

 

Baz

[St Enodoc]

38 minutes ago, Barry O said:

Just for @farren..

 

 

I moved the locos around though.. but lots of ex LMS types

 

 

And..

 

Time to play shed copping....

 

Baz

At least you can see the numbers, unlike Brunswick...

[Barry O]

On 05/05/2023 at 13:04, St Enodoc said:

At least you can see the numbers, unlike Brunswick...

And they aren't all ex GC locos.. from above the ex LMS locos can be a pain to identify.. but here you aren't peering through a bombed out roof!

 

Baz

[Barry O]

Preparations are now well in hand for the next  visit of Red Leader @LNER4479. Insulating fishcakes obtained.. baseboards to be cleared next week... excitement is mounting as this visit should bring the completion of the diesel depot and main station trackwork.

 

Baz