Peppercorn A1 tender - timken variants

[millerhillboy]

Do A1 tenders fitted with timken look any different from the normal tenders? As I understand the bearing covers would have timken stamped on them but other than that I'm not sure.

 

Thanks in advance.

[Steamport Southport]

Here's Tornado's tender.

 

 

 

From Wiki so in public domain.

 

A good photo of them here as well. Click on image for a bigger view.

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/queenfanjohn/14769207517

 

 

 

Jason

[Wickham Green]

Do A1 tenders fitted with timken look any different from the normal tenders? As I understand the bearing covers would have timken stamped on them but other than that I'm not sure.

 

Thanks in advance.

I'm not sure what bearings 'normal' A1 tenders would have had - but I'd guess they would have been oil lubricated 'plain' bearings as used on the earlier classes : these would have had rectangular covers rather than the round covers fitted to most-if-not-all the roller bearings ( as shown above ) ...... if the latter had lasted long enough they might have gained a coat of yellow paint - possibly even with a red stripe - and would have looked even more different !

[Horsetan]

Do A1 tenders fitted with timken look any different from the normal tenders? As I understand the bearing covers would have timken stamped on them but other than that I'm not sure.

 

I think the bearings themselves are slightly wider than plain ones, so the guides on the outside frames of the tender also have to be a little wider.

[millerhillboy]

So essentially slightly wider frames to accomodate the different bearings, so not hugely noticable in N gauge, but more importantly a round axle box cover rather than the square/rectanglular one of non-timken. Which would be noticable in N.

 

Thanks guys

[Horsetan]

So essentially slightly wider frames....

 

Axlebox guides are wider, yes, not the chassis itself.

[Steamport Southport]

I'm not sure what bearings 'normal' A1 tenders would have had - but I'd guess they would have been oil lubricated 'plain' bearings as used on the earlier classes : these would have had rectangular covers rather than the round covers fitted to most-if-not-all the roller bearings ( as shown above ) ...... if the latter had lasted long enough they might have gained a coat of yellow paint - possibly even with a red stripe - and would have looked even more different !

 

I don't think any of the LNER (ER) Pacifics received yellow roller bearing axle box covers.

 

LMS and BR designed locomotives did. Although they didn't tend to stay that way for long.

 

 

 

Jason