RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 19, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 hour ago, royaloak said: The set number is basically taken from the TCC so its 45003 in XC03. Quite - but I'm trying to find out which Hornby catalogue number is 45001 or 45003 - R4941 or R4941A. The Hornby website (and Hornby stockists) lists all the XC coaches with catalogue numbers and a respective coach number - apart for the two TCCs - it just says R4941 and R4941A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, newbryford said: Quite - but I'm trying to find out which Hornby catalogue number is 45001 or 45003 - R4941 or R4941A. The Hornby website (and Hornby stockists) lists all the XC coaches with catalogue numbers and a respective coach number - apart for the two TCCs - it just says R4941 and R4941A Ah, I see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 21, 2020 On 19/01/2020 at 15:47, newbryford said: Quite - but I'm trying to find out which Hornby catalogue number is 45001 or 45003 - R4941 or R4941A. The Hornby website (and Hornby stockists) lists all the XC coaches with catalogue numbers and a respective coach number - apart for the two TCCs - it just says R4941 and R4941A If anyone has access to the Hornby catalogue, is it possible to confirm which coach numbers are allocated to R4941 and R4941A please? TIA, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDBLUE17 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Hi Mick, Its not completely clear from the Catalogue but it’s listed as R4941/A then has the coach description then 45001/45003 so looks like 45001 is R4941 and A is 45003 if it’s printed correctly. I was trying to work out the Scotrail coaches too as the images so A C and D but not sure where B comes in. Might just have to wait til they come out. hope that helps Mark 19 minutes ago, newbryford said: If anyone has access to the Hornby catalogue, is it possible to confirm which coach numbers are allocated to R4941 and R4941A please? TIA, Mick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, MRDBLUE17 said: Hi Mick, Its not completely clear from the Catalogue but it’s listed as R4941/A then has the coach description then 45001/45003 so looks like 45001 is R4941 and A is 45003 if it’s printed correctly. I was trying to work out the Scotrail coaches too as the images so A C and D but not sure where B comes in. Might just have to wait til they come out. hope that helps Mark Hi Mark, Thanks - It does logically follow from the other XC01/XC03 coach and Hornby R numbers, that R4941A will be 45003, but we are talking about the big H here................. If I have time I will go and visit JDM and place my order tomorrow. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor43002 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 On 19/01/2020 at 11:06, 43055 said: The 2020 Hornby catalogue has vehicle numbers for each model except the Scotrail TSD's: GWR: TGS: 49104 TS: 48110, 48131 TSD: 48111 Formation being: 48110, 48111, 48131, 49104 (TS, TSD, TS, TGS) Set GW04? Scotrail: TS: 42561, 42562 TSL: 42046, 42045, 42343, 42184 TSD: No numbers on website, Not shown in catalogue. TGFB: 40601, 40602 From this you can have two sets and two spare TSL's which could possibly be used to make a 5 car set: TGFB, TSD, TS, TSL, (TSL) HA25: 40602, 42292, 42562, 42045 HA26: 40601, 42004, 42561, 42046 Cross Country: TGS: 44021, 44052 TCC: 45001, 45003 TFD: 41193, 41195 TSD: 42366, 42376, 42380, 42371 TS: 42342, 42097, 42377, 42370, 42378, 42036, 42051, 42369 From this you can make two sets and have a few spare vehicles: TFD, TCC, TS, TS, TS, TSD, TGS XC01: 41193, 45001, 42342, 42097, 42377, 42366, 44021 XC03: 41195, 45003, 42370, 42378, 42036, 42376, 44052 Brilliant! Was hoping someone would list the coach numbers just written down the numbers for XC03 so I know what to order. Gonna be getting two GWR rakes anyways so don't have to worry about the numbers for them, just buy one of each. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43055 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 12 hours ago, MRDBLUE17 said: Hi Mick, Its not completely clear from the Catalogue but it’s listed as R4941/A then has the coach description then 45001/45003 so looks like 45001 is R4941 and A is 45003 if it’s printed correctly. I was trying to work out the Scotrail coaches too as the images so A C and D but not sure where B comes in. Might just have to wait til they come out. hope that helps Mark Coach B is the TSD. This is not shown in the catalogue for some reason. 12 hours ago, newbryford said: Hi Mark, Thanks - It does logically follow from the other XC01/XC03 coach and Hornby R numbers, that R4941A will be 45003, but we are talking about the big H here................. If I have time I will go and visit JDM and place my order tomorrow. From looking website the other day were in order of the R numbers. 3 hours ago, Connor43002 said: Brilliant! Was hoping someone would list the coach numbers just written down the numbers for XC03 so I know what to order. Gonna be getting two GWR rakes anyways so don't have to worry about the numbers for them, just buy one of each. Thank you. I couldn't find much up to date info on the GWR sets and the catalogue only showed the four numbers. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted January 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 21, 2020 Yes also puzzled as to what coach B is on the Scotrail sets , but I don't want to wait around before ordering , as there's nothing worse than having two power cars and no intermediate stock . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westie7 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Wouldn't it be just typical, if by the time the ScotRail coaches are released, there ends up being a change in the formation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43055 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 There is also talk of all the sets being delivered at 2+4 and then the fifth coach comes later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) Why are 4891 and 4891A not in the catalogue? These are the ScotRail TSDs. Are they not doing them? I presume they are as they are on the Hornby website. Edited February 23, 2020 by TomScrut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted February 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2020 On 21/01/2020 at 14:01, Legend said: Yes also puzzled as to what coach B is on the Scotrail sets , but I don't want to wait around before ordering , as there's nothing worse than having two power cars and no intermediate stock . Run them with fgw mk3’s.. thats how they were in 2019 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted February 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Eddie R v2.0 said: Not talk, it’s fact. All 26 sets delivered with 4 coaches then any fifth coach will get added later. HA14 was delivered last week which means we now have half the sets now done and delivered. The sets are being delivered in reverse number order HA26 was first. Sets 1-13 were classics and we still have 4 of those plus the extra sets HA31-33 but these are not getting done. There are murmurs that the 5th coach will actually now be a TGS as it’s one less door to convert plus space for 6 additional bikes instead of the current 2. This is still to be confirmed so watch this space! Isn’t there space for bikes in the rear of the power cars ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, adb968008 said: Isn’t there space for bikes in the rear of the power cars ? I read that ScotRail have two issues here. Something to do with the Union (of staff I presume) having issue with that or having some sort of agreement to come to and also the standing time when taking stuff out of the power cars Edited February 23, 2020 by TomScrut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43055 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 On 23/02/2020 at 10:59, Eddie R v2.0 said: Not talk, it’s fact. All 26 sets delivered with 4 coaches then any fifth coach will get added later. HA14 was delivered last week which means we now have half the sets now done and delivered. The sets are being delivered in reverse number order HA26 was first. Sets 1-13 were classics and we still have 4 of those plus the extra sets HA31-33 but these are not getting done. There are murmurs that the 5th coach will actually now be a TGS as it’s one less door to convert plus space for 6 additional bikes instead of the current 2. This is still to be confirmed so watch this space! Thank you for your reply and the information. Wabtec have really stepped up now with 3 sets being delivered this year but that is probably helped by GWR and XC sets coming to an end. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class 158 productions Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Hi, I’m a little confused with the release dates of the mk3s. I’ve heard they are due in April but other sources are saying later and earlier than that. Also it says summer for the XC power cars does anyone know why they have been delayed? Thanks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted February 29, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Class 158 productions said: Hi, I’m a little confused with the release dates of the mk3s. I’ve heard they are due in April but other sources are saying later and earlier than that. Also it says summer for the XC power cars does anyone know why they have been delayed? Thanks Their is some confusion regarding delivery dates for the new Sliding Door MK3s. They were originally due in September 2019, then their was some speculation that they may arrive in Q1 2020, but when I last checked a few weeks ago Hornby had them listed as due to arrive in Spring 2020. Some retailers have them listed as due in April 2020, so either way it doesn't look like it will be too long before they arrive now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Premium Legend Posted March 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) Thanks to Dan at Derails for sorting the Scotrail Mk3 rakes from Hornby . He allowed me to post the above . Order off to him in morning . Edited March 9, 2020 by Legend 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Derails Models Posted March 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 11, 2020 Just noticed on Set HA25, the TGFB should read R4907A! Also on HA26, the coach number of R4937 should actually be 42561! Sorry for the errors, only my second stab at these consists guide things..... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackB95 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Now showing May 2020 for the XC ones. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, JackB95 said: Now showing May 2020 for the XC ones. I have had an updated status from Hattons on one of the Scotrail ones saying May. Not sure if that's because the rest are coming sooner (doubt it) or that the rest will be updated in due course! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackB95 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Rails saying GWR and XC due in the next couple of weeks... Hmmm... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, JackB95 said: Rails saying GWR and XC due in the next couple of weeks... Hmmm... I'm very keen to see them, hopefully a big step up from the other Mk3s. I cancelled the NMT and sold the carriages, got some ScotRail power cars and ordered the coaches which I hope will end up with a better model Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted April 4, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 4, 2020 Approximately 10 months since the arrival of the power cars but tbh earlier than I expected in the light of present circumstances.If Hornby can safely distribute them to retailers it will give a much needed boost to their sales. My OOC GWR pair have been sitting idly in the box since early last August so Little Dan will shortly be getting the call for the appropriate 4 from me. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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