danstercivicman Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 28 minutes ago, Silver Sidelines said: Two too much - I can imagine the smile. Cheers Ray Yeah I don’t know why but it would not run well with two motors but runs fine with one? I just disconnected the power feeds and removed the coglets (saved for another day). Problem is now I have one three car totally unpowered unit which means I need to buy a dummy car unit so that I can fix the power unit and exchange the dummy one when I want to run two separate DMU’s. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted November 18, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 18, 2019 3 hours ago, danstercivicman said: coglets Word of the day. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) Apparently Heljan are planning the Class 120 in O... price expected to be £880... So hopefully a Class 126 in 2025 in OO would be ok. I do like my class 128 (I know they didn’t get to Stranraer in reality) Edited November 18, 2019 by danstercivicman Spelling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) Apparently Heljan are planning the Class 120 in O... price expected to be £880... So hopefully a Class 126 in 2025 in OO would be ok. I do like my class 128 (I know they didn’t get to Stranraer in reality) Edited November 18, 2019 by danstercivicman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 On 16/11/2019 at 22:10, St Enodoc said: Yeah, right... Conflats... I forgot more conflats! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 Not much happening today I have been on child care duties! 44666 has run round. A late running train is clogging the path for the Newcastle service! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) Finally she 45715 gets a clear road! Followed by 44666 which will run to Stranraer Shed for servicing. Worryingly some of the DAS has been pulling away From the track in the yard due to the cold Edited November 18, 2019 by danstercivicman 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 That’ll be a nice view when it’s done 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 Well the DAS problems continued after I added paint. It would appear that I should have pressed the DAS down into PVA where it meets the track. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted November 20, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2019 Yes mate you need to stick das to whatever you're putting it on as it won't stick to it by itself very well and shrinks as it dries. Have you thought of using milliput instead of DAS? To be honest I'm not sure that they make it any more. The problem I have is there are next to no model shops left in London. Not where I am anyway. I'll have a look on ebay and see if it's still available. Regards Lez. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, lezz01 said: Yes mate you need to stick das to whatever you're putting it on as it won't stick to it by itself very well and shrinks as it dries. Have you thought of using milliput instead of DAS? To be honest I'm not sure that they make it any more. The problem I have is there are next to no model shops left in London. Not where I am anyway. I'll have a look on ebay and see if it's still available. Regards Lez. Yeah I definitely should have used pva. I think milliput is still made, I’ve got quite abit upstairs. It it doesn’t help that the loft fluctuates in temperature Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted November 20, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2019 I'm happy to say milliput is still available. Let's not get into the loft issues, I have definite views about lofts. Car body filler is good as well but you have to be quick with it and you need to do careful prep coz it's really hard to work once it's set, sanding is about the best option. Regards Lez. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 Progress continues: (slowly) The DAS isn’t so bad now it’s painted. The Hunslet can go where it needs to for the shunting of cattle wagons. The bridge is now an arch bridge! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 The bridge didn’t get finished but the 2P got weathered. I’ve misplaced the fire irons for her and have started to paint some crew figures 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 Tonight’s running session (playing trains)... We have a bridge! I still need to build the walls along the top and add a distinctive back scene building to the right of the bridge thing. Meanwhile a local leaves under CL5 power. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 The Irishman to Glasgow has a heavy load tonight so the CL5 is being piloted as far as Girvan by a 2P. These piloted workings appear quite common from the literature I am consuming! The 6MT needs no pilot. It will haul the N.Irishman to Carlisle where’s 7MT Britannia will run onwards to Euston 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) Do you think I should chop the concrete blocks off the Bachmann yard lamps and mount directly into the ground? I know now that the back-scene house has an odd perspective. It will be replaced by a custom made house soon. Edited November 22, 2019 by danstercivicman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Sidelines Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, danstercivicman said: Do you think I should chop the concrete blocks off the Bachmann yard lamps and mount directly into the ground? What do the prototypes look like? Did the full size lamps have concrete plinths? I have removed all the metal bases from my Hornby signals and the concrete blocks from my Ratio loading gauges and planted them directly into the base boards. Cheers Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Silver Sidelines said: What do the prototypes look like? Did the full size lamps have concrete plinths? I have removed all the metal bases from my Hornby signals and the concrete blocks from my Ratio loading gauges and planted them directly into the base boards. Cheers Ray Not sure really. I can’t find any close ups. They just seem abit intrusive? The 2P is a star! More fire irons have been ordered and yes she should be running XP lamps... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted November 22, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2019 I would set them into the ground cover rather than chopping them off mate. With the house, back scene buildings always look odd but you can mitigate it a bit by showing them corner on to the angle that you view them from most often. There is a way to make a street view back scene look convincing no matter what angle you view them from but you need a definite common vanishing point and it won't work on a single building. I'll give you an outline on how to do it if you really want to know how it's done but as I say it won't work on a single building. It's an art technique that isn't an original thought by me but as I said you need a definite vanishing point down a street. Regards Lez. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 7 hours ago, lezz01 said: I would set them into the ground cover rather than chopping them off mate. With the house, back scene buildings always look odd but you can mitigate it a bit by showing them corner on to the angle that you view them from most often. There is a way to make a street view back scene look convincing no matter what angle you view them from but you need a definite common vanishing point and it won't work on a single building. I'll give you an outline on how to do it if you really want to know how it's done but as I say it won't work on a single building. It's an art technique that isn't an original thought by me but as I said you need a definite vanishing point down a street. Regards Lez. Yes please that would be helpful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted November 23, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2019 Ok here goes nothing. This will only work for a view down a street or alley way that is at 90 degrees to the backscene. You have to create an illusion of depth by bringing the far point of the view OUT of the backscene, it relies on the perspective being symmetrical and you have to be pinpoint accurate or it doesn't work. This is totally counter intuitive and I'm not sure I can explain it in words at all, as I said here goes nothing. Start by defining the end of the buildings on either side of the street, Once you have that fixed you set the vanishing point in the center of the "street" and draw a box around the vanishing point. This will be the far end of the street the size of which is determined by the length of the street. The best way to do this is by drawing diagonal lines from the top and bottom point of the vertical line of the buildings either side of the street to the vanishing point. This box will have to be built out of the backscene a couple of inches. Then what you do is join the edges of the far point of the view to the edges of the end of the buildings either side of the street with panels on which you draw the fronts of the houses on the sides, the street at the bottom and the sky on the top, receding into the distance but they are in fact projecting out from the back scene towards you to the edges of the raised panel forming a truncated pyramid with the far end of the street on the top of the protruding box. This will give you the illusion of depth that retains the correct perspective no matter what angle you look at it from as you move from left to right along your layout and vice verser. I hope you get the general idea of what I'm getting at here because I'm struggling to draw this in a way that illustrates this in 2 dimensions and short of building it and taking pics I'm finding it difficult to explain the concept in words as well. Regards Lez. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) The Hunslet is busy at the end of the pier assembling an UP freight. Clan Macleod awaits the road. A Mogul on the UP Parcels and the Port Patrick local to end proceedings... Edited November 23, 2019 by danstercivicman 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted November 23, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2019 Hi guys. To try and illustrate what I was waffling on about in my earlier post I have tried to draw it for you. The first sketch is what you are aiming for, It's very rough mind I don't claim to be Michelangelo. The second sketch is your starting point the inner box protrudes out from the backscene and the "wings" go back to the backscene. As I said it's a truncated pyramid. I hope this makes it a bit clearer. Regards Lez. 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 Wow! impressive! Requires forward planning before th layout is built... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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