Solenoid (surface mounted) point motor DCC control

[The Great Bear]

Hello

 

I want to replace DCC concepts Cobalt point motors in my fiddle yard with surface mounted motors due to access problems. If I go for Peco or Seep surface solenoid motors how do I control them on DCC, what decoders? The points are electrofrog with rails bonded, how do I control the frog polarity, currently done by the Cobalt motors? (That's the main bit I'm struggling to understand looking at various products)

 

Whether a single decoder per point or multiple points from a decoder I'm open to either. The routes are set via macros on an NCE procab system, if that matters.

 

Thanks in advance for any help or guidance

 

Jon

 

 

 

[WIMorrison]

You can use a DR4018 as the accessory decoder to control the motors (very cost effective) and can I suggest that you look at the MTB MP1 motors? I use 16 of these in a hidden fiddle yard and they are superb - MUCH better than the slam Peco motors.

 

https://www.dcctrainautomation.co.uk/digikeijs-dr4018-16-channel-switch-decoder.html

 

https://www.dcctrainautomation.co.uk/mp1-point-switch.html

 

 

 

[Gordon A]

I noticed that you use NCE.

A search of their website came up with: https://ncedcc.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/201689279-Q-Snap-For-Atlas-Peco-Bachmann-EZ-Or-Other-Twin-Coil-Switch-Machines

for Peco, SEEP and other twin coil machines. 

 

It may be worth a search of the internet suitable but cheaper accessory decoders by different manufacturers.

 

Also ZTC used to produce Peco style motors with individual built in decoders. I don't know if the current business taunton Controls still produce these.

 

Gordon A

Edited September 5, 2019 by Gordon A

[Ron Ron Ron]

 

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[The Great Bear]

On 05/09/2019 at 10:50, Ron Ron Ron said:

 

Thanks, Ron. On the face of it these seem a good solution, including both the frog switching and DCC. Mounting at right angles to track may be issue for some locations though no doubt some form of crank can be used.

 

[Ron Ron Ron]

9 minutes ago, The Great Bear said:

Thanks, Ron. On the face of it these seem a good solution, including both the frog switching and DCC. Mounting at right angles to track may be issue for some locations though no doubt some form of crank can be used.

 

 

I have no experience of using these, but they do look to be a good solution for surface mounted motors.

Quite why anyone would still use solenoids in this day and age, baffles me. Especially when there are several decent motorised alternatives available.

 

 

 

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[Titanius Anglesmith]

On 05/09/2019 at 09:34, WIMorrison said:

can I suggest that you look at the MTB MP1 motors? I use 16 of these in a hidden fiddle yard and they are superb - MUCH better than the slam Peco motors.

.....

 

https://www.dcctrainautomation.co.uk/mp1-point-switch.html

 

They look very interesting

 

(having just installed 10 peco motors..... )

 

edit - just realised I’m in the DCC forum. How did I end up here??

Edited September 11, 2019 by Titanius Anglesmith